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Willsoonbesummer · 30/01/2016 12:43

My 8 year old has just started full boarding at prep school.The feed back has been so negative so far from the school.He is not organised enough etc.Now we feel we have made a mistake and not sure what to do.Any advise from mums who have been through this type of school would be very much appreaciated.

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PrimalLass · 30/01/2016 16:52

It's ok to change your mind and go to get him.

Gobbolino6 · 30/01/2016 16:53

He's 8. In my experience, it's a bonus if they can find their own shoes.

Drinkstoomuchcoffee · 30/01/2016 16:54

Kipper - I do not consider myself one of the"anti-boarding brigade". Quite the contrary. But I do not think it is unfair to point out that sending a child to boarding school at 8 is a VERY unusual decision and not one to be taken lightly. ISC state that there were 4491 junior boarders (

Drinkstoomuchcoffee · 30/01/2016 16:57

www.isc.co.uk/media/2661/isc_census_2015_final.pdf

Boarding figures all here

Drinkstoomuchcoffee · 30/01/2016 17:09

Last available figures are for 2014 - page 29. (boarder defined as having boarded at some stage in the autumn term)

Across the UK

87 - 7 year old boy boarders
377 - 8 year old boy boarders.

This is not something that UK families do any more unless there are very special circumstances at home.

Auntpodder · 30/01/2016 17:20

I've got mixed feelings about boarding (and about having boarded myself) but know plenty of people who emerged lovely and able to form functioning relationships (with both partners and their parents) after having started at 8 but only if they were happy at school.

I also wonder if the housemaster might be lacking in social skills and thought that he was having a manly joke with your son that backfired (but only you can be the judge of that).

In the meantime, while you decide, are the DGP suitably doting? If so, when they go down to see him this weekend, I'd think about enlisting them - both to get a feeling over how happy your DS is but also to meet the housemaster and the matron and gently drop in pointed remarks that might hit home about your DS (who sounds adorable) needing a bit of time to catch up. There are worse things than being slow at getting changed after all. Of course, this approach might not work if DGP are stiff upper lip types.

SitsOnFence · 30/01/2016 17:22

Our old nanny went into work for a family whose work was mostly overseas. The children attended a day prep and grandparents stepped in for weekends where neither parent made it home.

I wouldn't say it's an ideal situation, and with just one child will work out more expensive than boarding, but the children did at least get plenty of one on one time with a single attachment figure as well as a fairly 'normal' home life.

Noofly · 30/01/2016 17:22

Are you completely sold on going down the UK route? As a PP mentioned, New York has all sorts of excellent private schools. Or if you want to go down the boarding route, why not wait until he's older and send him to Groton or Phillips Exeter or similar? I live in the UK but say this as a former New Englander from a family overflowing from New England prep schools. Grin

sendsummer · 30/01/2016 17:29

Willsoonbesummer when you come and stay near the school request a proper appointment with the housemaster. You need to further assess how caring and helpful an environment versus a sink and swim situation. It may well be that your DS is actually getting lots of help with getting ready but taking up all the time of the staff so that other DCs lose out or, more alarmingly he is being left on his own to get ready and then being told off for struggling. I think if you have real doubts on how caring an environment it is after that visit especially if your DS is not finding it easier by half term then certainly bring him back to New York. As others have said the pretests don't need special UK prep school preparation nor do friendships for senior school need to be established from that early stage. You could reconsider for the last 3 years of prep school and ask around here for good pastoral prep schools.

IndridCold · 30/01/2016 17:41

I am amazed that a boarding prep school had taken such an unsympathetic stance about this. Most kids are fairly shambolic when they start at school, even if they are not boarding. I remember several heated discussions with DS about missing games kit when he was 8, and started at prep school.

In my view the school should be helping and teaching him how best to organise himself, not giving you all a hard time. The school my DS was at was very good at this, and at 17 he is now highly organised, punctual and tidy.

Willsoonbesummer · 30/01/2016 17:47

I have requested a meeting today,but the housemate has not responded yet.I will not leave him there any longer than half term if I don't feel there has been a change.Maybe my son is taking up too much of the staff time,I don't know.I'm not sure about trying again at 10 or 11,but would appreciate any recommendations for prep schools at that age.

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peteneras · 30/01/2016 17:51

OP, I’m so sorry to hear you find yourself in such a dilemma. I think I can understand how you’re feeling. My DS boarded at the age of ten. I remember clearly I was in two minds whether to allow him to board or not as we were in the fortunate position literally to choose any school, and I mean any school, in the UK with an almost certain guarantee that he would be accepted. This in addition to two super-selective grammar schools that DS also gained places. So-called ‘good friends’ didn’t help matters either as they tried every trick in the book to put me off boarding.

But I’ve always thought a boy’s got to do what a boy’s got to do. With a heavy heart, I went for full boarding thinking to myself if it didn’t work out, I’d take DS out within a month. My main concern was that DS was very young and absolutely pampered at home and he might find boarding totally disagreeable. No, I didn’t give him any choice as in my heart of heart, I sincerely thought that was the best route for him to take. I knew that by the time he finally comes home to me after all the schooling at prep, senior boarding and university, he would be in his (almost) mid 20’s - an adult!

No, I could not allow myself to be selfish and kept him at home. So full boarding it was. I remember distinctly even when I was driving DS to his prep school on the first day, I was tempted more than once to turn back. But then I remembered the one-month trail period mentioned above and continued the journey all the way to the prep school.

As soon as we reached the prep school, there were two boys much, much smaller than DS waiting to greet us, no doubt arranged by the school. Even before I could get out of the car, one boy offered to take DS’s big and heavy luggage for him into the dormitory. I was absolutely stunned! The luggage must weigh at least twice the weight of this very helpful boy who would be no older than 7 or 8. Any fears or uncertainties/apprehensions etc. literally went out of the (car) window at that instance. Soon, I saw more boys happily running up and down playing amongst themselves - some I guess, so young that it looked to me that they must have just got out of their nappies (diapers in American) not all that long ago. I saw boys aged 6 at the school who came from Thailand and Korea (I spoke with their parents) and they seemed well settled.

Fast forward a dozen or so years, DS now age 23 is back at home but only temporarily after having just finished one of the many electives at a distant district hospital. He hopes to fully qualify as a doctor next year. Before writing this post, I actually asked him to recall his days when he first started prep school i.e. whether he regretted it or not (NO); did I make the right choice for him (ABSOLUTELY) and would he recommend anyone to do the same as he (MOST CERTAINLY).

I am sure your DS will be fine, OP, and I’d just ignore what his prep school says about his speed at doing things etc. I haven’t told you all the negative things they said about my DS in his time. I hope this little story helps and please don’t hesitate to PM me if you need to.

Willsoonbesummer · 30/01/2016 17:55

Yes,I was really surprised to be spoken to in this way.I would expect to be spoken to if my son was misbehaving or not doing his class work well.I felt so confident on these fronts that I thought as soon as he made friends he would be flying.

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NickiFury · 30/01/2016 17:57

All your fears disappeared at the sight of a small boy staggering around with a massive suitcase? Confused

Veritat · 30/01/2016 17:57

I went to a boarding school and would have absolutely hated it if my parents weren't in the same country. At that time it was the norm to go home for the weekend at least every three weeks and I wouldn't have been able to do that - going to grandparents just wouldn't have been the same thing. I would also have missed out on them being able to come to things like school concerts and school plays. I started at age 11, I have to say that if I had been in that position at age 8 I would have been utterly miserable.

peteneras · 30/01/2016 18:01

Of course I didn't allow him to carry the luggage. He might break his back doing it. It's the fact that I saw how happy and helpful the boys were that put me completely at ease. Remember I was told all kinds of nasty things about boarding schools before I started?

twilightcafe · 30/01/2016 18:03

Bring your son home. He's not happy.

You're not happy, otherwise you wouldn't be asking strangers for advice on a forum.

His place is with you and his father in a secure, loving home.

zen1 · 30/01/2016 18:05

He is an eight year old little boy. Your gut is telling you to bring him home. Go and get him.

BertrandRussell · 30/01/2016 18:07

There is absolutely no reason on earth that would make boarding school on the other side of the Atlantic at the age of 8 a good idea. Absolutely none.

NickiFury · 30/01/2016 18:10

Oh I knew you weren't talking about the luggage itself. I just couldn't quite get how all your fears evaporated at the sight of this.

For me the fact that they're so young but behaving like mini Stepford adults would make me shake my head a bit. It's a trained performance really isn't it? The adult ideal of how children should be rather rather than how they actually are. It's nice and cute and all that but it's not real is it. It's the beginning of a life time of training for a certain role and life that their parents want for them and are prepared to not live with their children in order for them to get it.

BertrandRussell · 30/01/2016 18:13

Amazing how quickly children can learn to hide their feelings and perform for adults............

HumptyDumptyHadaHardTime · 30/01/2016 18:13

It is absolutely not necessary to do this. Top British public schools - including Eton

I completely agree. Wink

Michaelahpurple · 30/01/2016 18:16

I can't really help on the boarding prep front as my boys are in London day preps and no one I know has sent their children to boarding preps (as people have said upthread it is much rarer than it used to be, particularly before year 6)

I just wanted to reiterate that when you are deciding what if anything to do, please put aside the misapprehension that you have about needing to do this to access British public schools. There is no need to board before year 9 if you are abroad, although quite a few do come for the last 2 or 3 years before that. Did you perhaps get this impression from your husband who may be assuming that things still work the way they did when he was going through this? It is all very different now.

It would be logistically a little more complicated to do from abroad because of travel for Interviews although I have a vague feeling that you can take the iseb pretest, which many schools use, in overseas centres but foreign educated boys don't then have to take common entrance, instead doing, generally, just English, maths and science which are not too hard to prep for remotely.

Foreign applicants do however have to pay swingeing deposits , so it is harder to apply to a number of schools unless your first choice does its selection first, if you see what I mean. I don't know whether boys who live abroad but go to British prep schools are subject to the same rules.

Anyway, I hope that helps a bit

nagsandovalballs · 30/01/2016 18:17

I was deeply, deeply unhappy at my school which (being a girls' school) was rife with self harm and eating disorders. When parents needed a tour, I was happy, enthusiastic and sold the virtues of the school as I was too indoctrinated into 'promote the school' ethos. I only boarded after 13.

Small boys looking cheerful in front of parents means nothing. The boys I know who boarded at that age (8) and are how grown up are fiancally very successful but emotionally terribly stunted. Divorce and alcoholism features strongly. I have a PhD and am Financially successful but crippled by depression and eating disorders.

Success should not come at the cost of emotional growth.

Also, the old headmaster of Winchester college (in charge in late 90s/early 2000s) had a son at the school who sold alcohol and ketamine to smaller boys and was finally expelled when he set fire to a teacher's car. It was all hushed up. Ditto the riot at Milton abbey a few years ago.

There's is a fallacious impression that these boarding schools are respectable and life changing. The latter is true, but in many unexpected and negative ways.

peteneras · 30/01/2016 18:18

You obviously haven't stepped foot on a (good) boarding school. My DS is just as precious to me as yours is to you, if not more so. He couldn't wait to get back to boarding school each time after term holidays etc.

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