Changes to 11-plus to stop middle-class parents 'buying' access to grammars by hiring tutors

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241411/Changes-11-plus-stop-parents-buying-access-selective-schools-hiring-tutors-children.html

Similar article in the Times apparently but paywall.

When did you last go into a school? A state schoo

Is this addressed to me? About two weeks ago actually. However if you mean when did I actually last work in one , it was 2008.

I am interested in how Ronaldo's child has become bilingual living in an English-speaking household. I do hope the story involves Dora the Explorer

Sorry to disappoint. My DW is bi lingual as her papa is French speaking. I speak some French and we brought him up to be bilingual. Quite mundane..

ronaldo

The point is you don't have to be privately educated to live the lifestyle you describe, nor to achieve success even by your own measures.

I didn't name names, could be any old queen.

Stop jumping to conclusions.

This is pathetic, you women please read your postings and bow you heads in shame at how childish and silly this entire thread is. Are you all real???? who tries to reason with a maniac by declaring 'oh your insanity is like sanity to me ..too sane'.

I think we should hook Ronaldo up with Xenia in an arranged marriage stylee

Agree, iyatoda

'avante garde'. because in mopst ways we are. But thats not always something that comes across. Its not that we dont do the same things as others, we may not do them in quite the same way.

If I were not banned by other MNers I would have given you a " day in the life" of my current school compared to my last state school so you could appreciate how we do som many of the same things a little (lot) differently. As I said, its all in the small details really.

Perhaps we understand different things by the term.

By avant - garde I mean innovative , experimental and free thinking in philosophical and artistic / musical/ creative terms. Quite liberal thinking in many ways
(although modernist as opposed to post modernist).

I dont know what you mean.

@minty - Maybe Renaldo doesn't want his kids to be educated next to people who can't spell 'elite' even though it's there two posts up and the phone has spell checker.

Maybe I just prefer him to not be educated in any system at all APMF? I dont like bricks in walls and sausage machine education.

No one has even gained anything from being good at spelling except a bob on themselves for being good at spelling. Many of the best authors could not spell at all. It didnt stop them being either creatibe or good thinkers. Meanwhile I have yet to see anything worthwhile contributed by the good spelling league of friends ( except negative and self promoting criticisms)

creative - I dont know where that came from as I especially checked it.

I am not bilingual, haven't gone to Oxford or Cambridge, don't know any very famous people. But I love going to the Ballet. And my children have never played the flute or the trumpet. Recorder and piano were quite enough torture on my ears thank you. And I know a few people who have gone to Oxford or Cambridge from Comprehensives. So it can be done.

I have never knowingly eaten with the queen . How I have been failed by my state education.

Well, I obviously don't know the nature of your musical and artistic exploits, so can't comment on whether I'd consider them cutting edge or not.... I'm surprised you think of yourself as liberal though!

I'm disappointed the story doesn't involve Dora, but it also means your original story about your bilingual child despite English-speaking parents was misleading. Incidentally, many, many children in the UK's worst performing schools are bilingual.

Strikes me my girls - or Chorizo and Chipolata, as i call them - are going to end up a lot less sausaged than some.

I have been failed by the state education system too. I wont comment on the other one.

However, reading through many MN threads I am more convinced than ever that I do not want my DS in a local authority school. I am not keen on school at all although I acknowledge there is a time when DS has to be placed in one so he can have some experience of how the world works through systems.

That said I am now realising why some parents sit their DC in GCSE so early. Its corssing my mind too. But thats another thread

So you went to state school?

How can you eat at the same table as yourself? Surely you have oafish manners and lack the ability to have an avant-garde conversation?

I don't get your logic at all .

Exactly original steaming nit - at least you recognise that you cannot know a person through the things said here. You cannot know who I am and what I am " famous" ( or not) for, as I cannot know about you either.

You sound ridiculous though that is obvious

How can you eat at the same table as yourself? Surely you have oafish manners and lack the ability to have an avant-garde conversation?

I try very hard not to :P

I spent too much of my life trying to reconcile the culture of my state school with my homelife ( and failing) as I never quite got theidea. My DM believing that by putting me in a diverse background mixing with so many who were so different from me would give me a head start by enabling me to mix with all sorts of people. I was my DM's social experiment.

It didnt help at all. I turned out one confused little boy until I found out about social class and all of that ( at about 15) and went to Cambridge and realised that things were different there. I adopted the particular culture and even if I say it myself, I thrived for the first time in my life. I was happy and I was at home with that. I have never admitted to coming from a state SM in RL since. Since my parental background tells a different story to my educational one, I dont have to lie to deal with that.

Now I understand why you reject the state system wholesale.

He certainly needs some experience of how the world works through systems in order to stand a realistic chance of getting that vital Who's Who entry, Ronaldo. You have merely chosen the gourmet sausage route as opposed to the one most other people take - still looks like a turd and tastes like a sausage.