Teachers - are you voting yes for strike action

[sandgrounder]

Went to NUT meeting at school yesterday re pension reform. Cannot see myself teaching until 68 and who wants their kids taught by oldies not wanting to be there.

really you seem to be doom and gloom

Can't see how you can draw that conclusion.

Apart from the personal loss to me and my colleagues, I am happy that the system is being corrected.

Really I thought you were predicting a bleak future

im not in an Onion
do i get balloted?

It depends whether you take a short or long-term view.

No Juno

I threw my ballot paper in the bin, Juno.

(well I didn't open the latest mailing)

I don't think anyone sees it as a short term exercise

oh thats ok then

can you lot do the striking and ill earn and runs

I'll be very happy if state school teachers have lots of strike days. Bring it on!

Then why are you still whinging MmeB?

I don't believe I am!

really?

If you have something to say, then please say it. I am totally up for a debate.

I know that you know that you are on dodgy ground with your views. If you need to unpack more, then do it.

Otherwise, we can put this particular debate to bed and reconvene on another day. Either way, I am cool with it.

Sorry MmeB I don't believe I am on dodgy ground ... I do believe you are trying to turn the debate into a state v independent conflict which it isn't so carry on whinging.

I understood that independent school teachers were being wiped from the pension scheme altogether.

Why would independent school teachers be wiped from the system unless it were an admission that the system was subject to unreasonable subsidy and therefore unfair on ordinary hardworking taxpayers?

It's not and independent/maintained debate, mrz ( which I am sure you know). The point of raising the issue of independent teachers is to bring to a head that the TPS is unfair to ordinary hardworking taxpayers.

I know it1 but since you introduced it MmeB

MmeBlueberry Wed 01-Jun-11 14:53:06

I wondered what yournpoint of view was on the notion that taxpayers are subsidising private school teachers. The big sacred cow, lolol.

you appear to want to provoke conflict and cause factions

you're not Mr Gove are you?

As I have said MmeB we are all ordinary hard working taxpayers (even you)

Indeed, mrz, quite deliberately.

Private sector taxpayers should be treated fairly.

As a private sector taxpayer I fully agree MmeB

Sorry - what is the logic here?
It is self-sustaining , it doesn't matter who is in, they are all participating in the funding and the pay-out, so doesn't matter whether it is state/indie teahcers, or indeed any other particpant.
If it is not self-sustaining, and taxpayers are subsidising, then all we taxpayers have a valid view on how it should operate.
Our school fees rose consideraly last year, and the explanation was the funding of the teachers pensions, if it is one fund, then all those anti-indie peopel should be rejoicing at teh fee-paying parents contributing to the general fund.for all teachers.

Perhaps you are subsidising MmeBs increased contributions MrsGofG