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#makeithappen TTC through Donor IUI or Donor IVF or just undecided. All welcome. Thread 11

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kwick · 08/12/2017 21:28

This thread is for anyone trying to conceive... or thinking about doing so through donor IUI or donor IVF. Nothing TMI - feel free to join, we are a lovely group here to support and help keep the cray-cray away!

Here is the link to the previous thread
Thread 9
Thread 8

Thread 7

Thread 6
Here is the link to the one before that: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2832207--makeithappen-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome
Here is the link to the one before that one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2769549-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome-makeithappen-loadsofBFPs
Here is the link to the thread before that: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2688511-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome-makeithappen
Here is the link to the one before that one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2587046-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome
And the one before that!: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1877198-Donor-IUI

We also have a weight loss spin off thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/donor_conception/2889818-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-weight-loss-spin-off-thread

#makeithappen TTC through Donor IUI or Donor IVF or just undecided. All welcome. Thread 11
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Pez82 · 10/02/2018 22:41

Mandy, don't worry, I remember those instructions of no soap, not even deodorant but that was mostly for egg collection, not so much for transfer when a long catheter is used. I think they mostly say that to avoid some women coming into theatre with heavy perfumes and scented stuff which could potentially contaminate the eggs/embryos of others.

Progynova is oestrogen only if I'm not wrong so I don't think it would stop your body from producing progesterone but I'm not sure. Have they not told you to take progesterone supplements a few days prior to transfer?

StorkAhoy · 10/02/2018 22:50

Thanks all for your kind words.

mandy, think really carefully about if both take, what happens. Can you afford two? Childcare can be crippling! What support will you ah e at home to deal with two?

These are just my thoughts post twin-gate. I was always a big believer of popping two back in, and then they both took (for a little while at least...) and financially things looked a tad tricky, of course if I ended up with twins it would have worked out somehow (doesn’t it always?!), but it’s certainly something to consider V carefully.

Just my thoughts.

Smithguy86 · 11/02/2018 00:10

So we have been testing out the ovitrelle since Tuesday and the lines on the tests are getting darker? Is that how it usually goes gets darker then fades or is it usually darker in the beginning and then fades? We are 10 days post IUI now so not considering the results as anything other than ovitrelle but the line is getting darker each day!

Mandy002 · 11/02/2018 07:25

Thanks all for the thoughts/advice. The clinic has said to take progesterone pessaries from 4 days before transfer 3x200mg a day. It's just that I thought that was what kept my af away last time along with the buserelin but now I'm not taking either. Either yet or anymore...only the oestrogen. I'm starting to realise how little I actually know about all this. 😬 As for the transfer...I'll deffo be taking their advice- going to buy some sent free stuff this afternoon to take with me. I was also looking up the cost of multiples childcare last night after I posted and OMG! No wonder people who have a partner pack in working! It's extortionate! My worry though is if I have only one put back it doesn't take whereas if there was two at least one might. My consultant here said my choice should also depend on the quality of the embryos. If they are very good quality one might be enough....I know someone here and as she was in her 40s transferred two of her own eggs and ended up with triplets! Now that I'm not sure I would be able to cope with alone. Sorry if I'm being a pain but at the minute this is literally ALL I'm thinking about.

TinyPaws · 11/02/2018 08:10

Smithguy I'm not sure how ovitrelle looks when you test it out but logically I'd think it should get lighter not darker? It sounds very hopeful to me! Only 3 days left until you know for sure.

pickle162 · 11/02/2018 08:16

@Smithguy86 keeping everything crossed for you. Is Wednesday your otd?
When I tested out a different trigger it was at its peak about 24-36 hours then stayed around the same until around day 13/14 then got lighter (my otd was 18days later because of how long stayed in your system so will be slightly different) also depends on how concentrated Urine is when testing but keeping everything crossed that will be your bfp :)

Latenightreader · 11/02/2018 08:31

I was pressured into having two transferred in with my first fresh transfer (having agreed in advance that it would only be one) and spent the TWW panicking. I have gone with one ever since.

Smithguy86 · 11/02/2018 09:40

Thanks pickle and tinypaws because I took so little of the ovitrelle I assume it would be out of my system quicker but can't confirm exactly how much of it I took!

Tested again this morning lines are looking slightly darker than yesterday! I'll not trust anything until we get the results of the blood test on Wednesday! Only 3 days of he longest two weeks ever to go!

pickle162 · 11/02/2018 10:01

🤞

Smithguy86 · 11/02/2018 12:25

I done some more googling there's 25 clicks in an ovitrelle pen and I took 8 so that should be 80mgs if there is 6500mIU in a full pen then I would have had 2080mIU. The medicines web site states you metabolise approximately 1000mIU units a day so mines should have been gone in 2 days! It's now 5 days since I took the shot so theoretically it should be out of my system! Confused

user1506254758 · 11/02/2018 13:07

Hello, I would like a little practical advice, since I'm struggling to think straight and I'm quite new to all this fertility lark. This is such a great board, women are so supportive and resilient and sensible on here.

About me: I'm 40, single, PCOS, one ovary.

Bit of background and I have a moan:
I only started leaning towards wanting a baby at 36, but for various reasons, did not then take action. I was torturing myself with doubts - basically I can't afford a baby and have terrible guilt about needing top up benefits, how would I manage if something was wrong with the baby, and also have been saving to buy a home which is something I've wanted for a LOT longer than a baby. I was aware my chances were ticking away month by month and it was torture but just felt stuck. Now I'm torturing myself for not taking action when I had the chance, but I have to leave that to one side. I have no one I can talk to completely openly about this. I do feel I need to try this year not to pile up further regret.

Treatment:

I do not have anything to put towards treatment. I'd basically have to get a loan. I know the chances are low at my age so I'd be looking at likely one roll of the dice at IVF or a few IUIs. Or going down the seedy risky unregulated route, although there don't seem to be that many genuine guys around (lol!) Or both. I've just started tracking my cycle, to see if I actually ovulate on my own that seems a place to start! (I've been on pill for PCO symptoms.)

(Apologies, struggling to change username)

pickle162 · 11/02/2018 19:32

@Smithguy86 keeping everything crossed for you sweetie

@user1506254758 you could speak to your dr to see if your local area allow treatment on nhs. Worth asking for some assessments anyway as if you do have fertility issues this could mean you are eligible for treatment
Tracking cycle is great place to start :)
Personally wouldn't go down the seedy way, there are so many risks (which I'm sure you're away of) plus it's not even like you can say one try and it'll work.
Abroad clinics tend to be a lot cheaper so if you are planning to get a loan then this might be the better option
Good luck :) you have found a good thread here,everyone is very supportive

JellyBean909 · 11/02/2018 21:53

Hey everyone, I’ve been following this thread for at least a year now as I was looking into my options and understanding the procedures, I feel like I know u all and I laughed and cried with each post 💐

I am 30, single and doing IUI this month, I also have PCOS so will be using Clomid and a Trigger shot. Base scan is this Wednesday and I’m so excited!

I done all my calculations before this journey yet It’s still coming up way more expensive then I thought, what with storage fees and non sterling transaction fees ugh feeling optimistic at least though!

kwick · 12/02/2018 08:53

OMG! I did such a long post and then lost it!!!!

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kwick · 12/02/2018 08:59

@TinyPaws hope you are surviving the 2ww!!!

@Pez82 thanks for being the voice of sanity!!!

@Mandy002 best of luck with transfer!
If the perfume thing was such an issue they would jet spray us all before treatment!
Progynova keeps AF away too.

@StorkAhoy You are dealing with this so well 😘

@user1506254758 you may want to research Access Fertility- I could not get for IVI but many clinics are available.
You need a medical professional to advise what course of treatment would be best for you - will depend on your ovarian reserve and other things.

@JellyBean909 best of luck!!!

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Mandy002 · 12/02/2018 11:05

Guys I have some sporting freaking out! Please tell me this is normal?! 🤯

TinyPaws · 12/02/2018 11:41

Just typed and lost a massive post and run out of break time to redo it, ugh. Will update later.

Mandy002 · 12/02/2018 12:42

Should have said spotting! Confused

TinyPaws · 12/02/2018 13:31

user1506254758 Welcome! I'd suggest starting to save money as this will reduce the size of the loan needed. A lot of clinics do information evenings and some even do free initial consultations so you could find out more about what's involved.

Jelly welcome, I lurked for ages before posting too. Good luck, I'd love to hear how you get on!

Thanks kwik, I'm surviving, time is just crawling, haven't peed on anything yet, 6 days down.

I tried to talk to my mum about this treatment, she told me she doesn't want to know. I'm really disappointed, feel like crying really. She tends to get quite anxious, I think this is her way of dealing with it, but I was hoping for some support.

StorkAhoy · 12/02/2018 14:43

user1506254758 hi. I get this is a big topic! And you clearly have a lot going on in your life. pickle might be right, you might be entitled to so ethical no from the nhs, however I was told as a single lady I’d get nothing nhs wise, so hope for the best expect the worst from that score.

Now for the scary honest bit: it’s entirely possible that a couple of iuis and bang, it works, without meds, so you just need a few thousand to do that. But that might not happen. I’m 39, I did 3 ivfs with no success. That was £18k for treatment, sperm and meds. Plus prob £300 for health tests eg amh, hiv etc.

I then moved onto a clinic in athens and moved to egg and sperm donor, that was €3k for each transfer, plus another £300 in medication before transfer. The first transfer didn’t work. The second one did, so another €3k plus £300 . Then when I got my positive pregnancy test and up to wk 14 of pregnancy it was another £700 in meds in total.

So 1) you need to save like crazy.
2) you need to budget plan, if you think you’ll need benefit support what does that really mean to you post baby?
3) you’ll need to have some tests done including Amh for the clinics to get an idea if IUI is even an option for you( it wasn’t for me given my age)
4) be aware that most clinics charge an amount for a consultation, so you are laying out money before any treatment at all.
5) seriously consider if you only have one shot if you want to try with your eggs, or go abroad and look at double donor (where chances of success are higher) this is controversial, but it is an option. It also extends the length of time you have to conceive, so all those actresses having babies at 46, yeah that’s using an egg donor mostly!

So you could have everything you want, but with compromises?

Just some food for thought.

mandy, I apologies, but I cant recall where you are in your journey, so can’t say anything about the spotting, let me know and i’ll try to help. Xx

StorkAhoy · 12/02/2018 14:46

Sorry, edited to make sense:

user1506254758 hi. I get this is a big topic! And you clearly have a lot going on in your life. pickle might be right, you might be entitled to help from the nhs, however I was told that as a single lady I’d get nothing nhs wise, so hope for the best expect the worst from that score.

Now for the scary honest bit: it’s entirely possible that a couple of iuis and bang, it works, without meds, so you just need a few thousand to do that. But that might not happen. I’m 39, I did 3 ivfs with no success. That was £18k for treatment, sperm and meds. Plus prob £300 for health tests eg amh, hiv etc.

I then moved onto a clinic in athens and moved to egg donor and sperm donor, that was €3k for each transfer, plus another £300 in medication before transfer. The first transfer didn’t work. The second one did, so another €3k plus £300 . Then when I got my positive pregnancy test and up to wk 14 of pregnancy it was another £700 in meds in total.

So 1) you need to save like crazy.
2) you need to budget plan, if you think you’ll need benefit support what does that really mean to you post-baby?
3) you’ll need to have some tests done including Amh for the clinics to get an idea if IUI is even an option for you( it wasn’t for me given my age)
4) be aware that most clinics charge an amount for a consultation, so you are laying out money before any treatment at all.
5) seriously consider if you only have one shot if you want to try with your eggs, or go abroad and look at double donor (where chances of success are higher) this is controversial, but it is an option. It also extends the length of time you have to conceive, so all those actresses having babies at 46, yeah that’s using an egg donor mostly!

So you could have everything you want, but with compromises?

Just some food for thought.

mandy, I apologise, but I cant recall where you are in your journey, so can’t say anything about the spotting, let me know and i’ll try to help. Xx

Mandy002 · 12/02/2018 15:06

@StorkAhoy FET scheduled for 22nd had scan Friday lining at 8.5. Been on progynova since 31st jan. af would have been due Saturday if it was normal cycle....so worried. Emailed clinic a minute ago and haven't heard back yet.

Latenightreader · 12/02/2018 16:04

Mandy, I'd ring the clinic if I were you. Speaking to someone will give you peace of mind and answer any questions you have.

pickle162 · 12/02/2018 16:43

Hope you hear something soon Mandy, I agree give them a call, otherwise it'll get to their closing time and you'll have to wait for tomorrow

Smithguy86 · 12/02/2018 17:45

Only 2 days to and I think I'm ready to drive myself mental! Really feel like AF is about to arrive but still getting positive tests! Just done a boots digital test and came back pregnant! Wednesday is so close yet so far!

Hope the clinic got back to you stork!

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