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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

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WoodBurningStov · 12/05/2024 06:42

Well done for finishing this relationship with him.

He sounds like he's an utter misery to live with and be around, but because your children, are well children, he feels he can exert control over them and give them a hard time for things he'd like to give adults shit over, but of course he can't get away with it with an adult.

brightpompoms · 12/05/2024 06:43

Well done OP after the end of the month get the locks changed and make sure he's gone. Take the kids on holiday and don't look back.

Scotcheggz · 12/05/2024 06:45

Well done op I’m so glad you’re leaving him. Google “mother’s boyfriend’”. You don’t need any more evidence, he’s making you, and especially your children, miserable. After he leaves at the end of the month- and he will make this really difficult - I bet your kids will tell you some awful stories about him that they have withheld

Amx · 12/05/2024 06:50

Nah he won't go.

I'm sorry but you've let this go on got 5 years. Your poor kids.

Purplecatshopaholic · 12/05/2024 06:55

Glad to read your update op. This has gone on too long - you know that - and your poor children are suffering. Make sure he goes - if I was you (and I was a few years ago) I would change the locks asap.

mumofoneanddone82 · 12/05/2024 06:56

I get so upset every-time I read a post where a mother has put a man before her children! Why did you let this man be part of your children's lives? Seriously, get out and start rebuilding the damage this abusive man has done to your children!

mumofoneanddone82 · 12/05/2024 06:58

@BusyFinch great news! It's fine to make poor choices, but not when children are involved! Hope this can now be a period of calm and happiness for you and your children!

justasking111 · 12/05/2024 06:58

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

Good outcome He can hire a container for his hobby stuff, removal companies also store stuff if he starts whinging.

The rest will take time 💐

MumMumMumMumMumMumMum · 12/05/2024 06:59

I didn't read all that, didn't need to. He sounds bloody horrible. He's making your entire family miserable, well done getting him to leave .

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/05/2024 07:14

I hope he follows through with leaving. He sounds horrible. The good stuff cannot outweigh this.

rockingbird · 12/05/2024 07:17

Make sure you stick to your plan, you may find he tries everything to convince you not to separate! The longer this goes on the more of a claim he'll have on the house. Don't back down now, think of the future happiness for you and your children without this bully. Whatever the hobby which has filled a room.. get him packing it up. He sounds like an incredibly selfish man, you're well rid.

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:24

Update 2: He’s saying end of month isn’t enough time for him to move out. I’ve told him it’s happening by the end of the month and I will get an occupation order if he doesn’t go.

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lemonsaretheonlyfruit · 12/05/2024 07:28

@BusyFinch

Well done. I know it's not a simple as some posters have said. Stay on here for support. It's bound to get worse before it gets better but ultimately you know you are doing the right thing.

I went to 3 different solicitors for an hour. They all said different things. But the Information I was given from all 3 was invaluable.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/05/2024 07:30

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:24

Update 2: He’s saying end of month isn’t enough time for him to move out. I’ve told him it’s happening by the end of the month and I will get an occupation order if he doesn’t go.

Well done. Stick to your guns. If he starts looking tomorrow he can find somewhere to move into soon, and if he has to stay with friends or family, or even in a hotel, for a short period then that's what he'll have to do.

tara66 · 12/05/2024 07:30

Hope the DC show their total joy he is leaving and hurry him up in every way! Make him start packing or if he doesn't you and Dc start - get large black plastic bags and change the locks etc. Let everyone tell him how awful he is all the time and that doing so is best for everyone else's mental health and DC need to express their true feelings etc!

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/05/2024 07:31

Do you think you should get the occupation order anyway in case he now decides to get one himself?

Bunnie007 · 12/05/2024 07:33

Well done for finding the strength to make the right decision for you all. It sounds like you were all very unhappy with the situation. Without sounding dramatic I would possibly look in to options for some emotional support/therapy for your children at some point. What has been happening is a form of emotional abuse and this can impact children long term. Particularly on their self esteem, relationships etc I’m not saying this to make you feel bad, you made the best choice you could at the time and as you say I’m sure it wasn’t all bad with their step dad. You can also support them (now he’s gone) by being super positive with them and allowing your more relaxed way of living to become the norm. I’m so happy for you and them that you can enjoy life so much more now. Take care

Mumnttc · 12/05/2024 07:36

Growing up I hated my mums partner (they were together since I was 5, but never lived together until I was 20, however he stayed at ours a lot maybe 4-5 times a week). He is a narcissist and has a raging temper. He again would moan and criticise everything I did. He has 3 of his own children all similar ages to myself (I’m early
30’s now) and even though I was the well behaved one compared to them, I always got the brunt of it all. For example, his kids did drugs, smoked, one got his gf pregnant at 15, they skipped school and didn’t get qualifications, whereas I did fairly well at school, never smoked/done drugs and had my first child planned at 24 (I am by no means saying I’m better than them or perfect, but just to compare them to me, but to him they did no wrong, yet I could sneeze the wrong way and get shouted at).

Anyway when we moved in with him when I was 20, I lasted 9 weeks and moved out. I was at uni at the time and it was just an awful time I dropped out of uni because my mental health couldn’t cope.

I finally cracked when it was my wedding and we had yet another argument after I finally grew a back bone and stuck up for myself and I uninvited him. This was the first step of cutting contact for me. My mum reluctantly came to the wedding and all day she looked so miserable. He stopped her
coming wedding dress shopping with me, he didn’t let her go to my prom because they were going for dinner, etc etc. very controlling.

Anyway, I have ended up going no contact with both of them due to his behaviour and the fact my mum always let it happen. She never liked confrontation and would let him walk all over her. I had enough of listen to his BS of moaning about everything in existence and didn’t want my family around him.

what I’m trying to say is, if you stay with him, this could be your daughter in years to come. Your kids will grow up and realise that the way they have been treated is not normal and probably hold you accountable for letting it happen. So please, leave for the sake of your kids and put them first - they were here before he was and hopefully they would come first before him.

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:37

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/05/2024 07:31

Do you think you should get the occupation order anyway in case he now decides to get one himself?

Yes I am going to ring the solicitors in the morning to discuss exactly that. I do not plan to tell the kids what is going on until after he’s gone. It’s for me to deal with and I want him gone with as little fuss and as quietly as possible.

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Tiswa · 12/05/2024 07:37

I agree with clear legal advice and starting the divorce process
i would also make it very clear it is over and start doing things and eating separately as well and telling your children

TerrifiedOfNoise · 12/05/2024 07:55

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:24

Update 2: He’s saying end of month isn’t enough time for him to move out. I’ve told him it’s happening by the end of the month and I will get an occupation order if he doesn’t go.

You don’t need one, just change the locks. If you’re being generous/have the ability I would book a hotel or something in his name for the next week and then change the locks and put his things outside for him.

Lwrenn · 12/05/2024 07:56

Oh my fuck, I'm absolutely horrified at this, I'm sorry you are in this situation and I feel awful for you and your dc. 💐

The line about you being on edge really has upset me, if you as the adult who he doesn't hate, feels on edge, your poor wee kiddos. They must have the worst anxiety. He a billion million times needs to fucking leave, right now.

Get them therapy as soon as he's out.
Apologise to them for this experience and stay single until they're adults.

This man has spent 5 years traumatising your children, be prepared that this will have catastrophic consequences on their mh if you don't make them your sole focus.

Hes a diabolical little man who needs to be alone in a mould ridden bedsit and ignored by society until rats eat his corpse.

Your poor family, and you, I'm sorry this has been your lives for so long x

justasking111 · 12/05/2024 07:58

The ex husband hasn't helped stirring the pot, manipulating his own children too. Nasty pair

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:59

TerrifiedOfNoise · 12/05/2024 07:55

You don’t need one, just change the locks. If you’re being generous/have the ability I would book a hotel or something in his name for the next week and then change the locks and put his things outside for him.

He is going away nx weekend to his friends place so I am considering doing exactly that. In the first instance I would hope that he would go quietly though as I don’t want to risk him trying to bang the door down when we are inside.

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RabbitsRock · 12/05/2024 08:02

Well done OP - your OP was a tough read! I agree with a pp that you need to “ sit on” your children. It sounds like they don’t respect you or their home.

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