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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Mum2jenny · 11/05/2024 22:55

Just divorce him, worry about the practicalities later. A good divorce solicitor should be able to advise you on the steps to take.

IggyAce · 11/05/2024 22:56

Fuck why didn’t you get rid when he put his hands on your son? he crossed a line there. Speak to a lawyer you can’t afford not to, you might get lucky and because it’s a short marriage you might not have to give him 50%.

GreyBlackLove · 11/05/2024 22:56

I feel so utterly sorry for your children. No-one deserves to live like that. Yes, leave him. Then take a good hard look at yourself and why this has been allowed to go on for so long.

OzziePopPop · 11/05/2024 22:56

I managed five words before I thought ’yes’, but on reading the rest have amended this opinion to…….

HELL YES!

MorrisZapp · 11/05/2024 22:56

He's never been nice to your kids but you married him? I can't compute this, sorry.

justasking111 · 11/05/2024 22:57

A friends husband bagged up all her clothes and left them outside at the top of the road. That was her gone. She had already moved in with a new fella though.

AnotherDelphinium · 11/05/2024 22:59

You ask him to leave. Again. Make clear the marriage is over and you have no interest in him and you want him gone.

File for divorce today.

Move all his stuff out your bedroom and into his study.

You make an absolute racket if he’s attempting to WFH and tell the children the same as your ex has; he’s on his way out and can be completely disregarded in every way.

Any physical retaliation whatsoever to you or the children you call the police.

dragonscannotswim · 11/05/2024 23:00

He works in the living room? Selfish selfish dickhead.

Go and see see a solicitor right away.

Get this abusive dick out of your house. Your poor dc.

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 23:01

MorrisZapp · 11/05/2024 22:56

He's never been nice to your kids but you married him? I can't compute this, sorry.

To be fair things were not always this bad they have got steadily worse as the kids have got older. The thing is with shitty marriages is that they’re not shitty all the time. In between the arguments there will be family outings, film nights, my husband taking my son to his clubs, garden sports games. I have come on here and said what is bad but not any of what is good. My husband works hard around the house and pulls his weight. But yes the bad stuff I cannot live with any more.

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Shallysally · 11/05/2024 23:02

Your daughter feels that he wants to hit her?

He doesn’t like your children, he is demonstrating this.

Listen to your children, please. Don’t risk any more damage to their wellbeing.

Kick him out, don’t take no for an answer.

Angelsrose · 11/05/2024 23:04

Your husband is in your house and has to leave. What were his living arrangements before he started living with you? Do you have any family members / friends who can help move his stuff out? I don't see how he can refuse to leave your house?! The way he is treating your children is simply appalling.

Mossstitch · 11/05/2024 23:04

You tell him to organise himself to leave or you will call the police to remove him as he is abusing your children. The financial aspect can be dealt with at a later date.

SlebBB · 11/05/2024 23:06

The Victorian Era called and they want your husband back!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 11/05/2024 23:08

@BusyFinch just get the divorce papers served on him and move him out! hire a hitman

NotAgainWilson · 11/05/2024 23:11

Ok, I guess it is easy to say leave but it is never as easy as banging the door behind you and walking into the sunset.

Divorces are like weddings, you need to save, plan, save and plan again to have the best start to your new life.

The is not “leave now or never leave” you can and will leave, when the time works for you and the children.

Something that may help you regain control of the situation is giving up on him. Simple as that, stop expecting any changes or good deeds from him, you keep with your plans, introduce some damage limitation measures with your kids so things are at least civil while you put your ducks in a row.

Most importantly, it is not like in the movies… you don’t need his permission to leave, you just leave when you are ready and there is a roof assured to put over your children’s heads. Stop talking to him about divorce. Just get on with your plans, disconnect and walk out on him when you are ready.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/05/2024 23:14

There is a roof assured over her and her children's heads - it's her house.
She and the children can't leave - it's her house.

ChangeAgain2 · 11/05/2024 23:15

You need to seek legal advice. Don't threaten divorce file for divorce. He is abusiving your kids in your their own home. I'm struck but he is.off the fucking chart. Lots of the stuff he's picking about are inconsequential. He's picking because he can. He's a bully and a dictator.

NotAgainWilson · 11/05/2024 23:17

Ps. The moment he hits you or your kids you lock him out, call the police and try to get an order to keep him away from you and your children and therefore the house.

In the meant time, do two things:

one. Start a record of incidents, just write the date and what happened, no interpretation from you, just the facts. It will come very handy at court and to prove to the police there is a pattern in his behaviour as isolated incidents tend to be ignored.

two. Check entitledto.co.uk to se if you are entitled to any help to get you back on your feet until you become financially independent.

DirtyKit · 11/05/2024 23:18

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NotAgainWilson · 11/05/2024 23:20

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/05/2024 23:14

There is a roof assured over her and her children's heads - it's her house.
She and the children can't leave - it's her house.

Unfortunately, as they are married, it is his house too unless courts decide otherwise.

beAsensible1 · 11/05/2024 23:22

kick him out. Next time he goes out. Change the locks

ClaireUnderwoodforPresident · 11/05/2024 23:23

I read your first sentence and my answer was yes!!

Copperoliverbear · 11/05/2024 23:24

Why an earth did you marry him he's a cunt
Grow a pair and stop letting your children be abused by this prick and tell him to leave don't you leave with your children

TicTac80 · 11/05/2024 23:25

OP, you say that he's lived with you for five years, but how long have you guys been married? I've heard that sometimes makes a difference re: what he'd be able to claim in a divorce settlement.

kittybiscuits · 11/05/2024 23:29

He's abusive in multiple ways. You should be able to go through legal channels to remove him from the house then divorce him. You will probably have to pay him something, but whatever it costs it will be more than worth it to get this abusive prick away from your children and you. Please talk to your local domestic abuse organisation.