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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Snippit · 11/05/2024 23:31

My beautiful,kind, generous sister in law is currently seeing a therapist. At the age off 55 the majority of her issues have stemmed from her vile bullying gas lighting step father, who came into her life when she was 9. He made everyone’s life a misery, especially her mums. She left home at 18 when she could afford to. Her mum stayed the course and had a thoroughly miserable life. I met the miserable shit a few times, he was a vile excuse for a man.

It will be hard, but don’t let this pathetic man fuck up your childrens lives and mental health, you deserve more and your children will appreciate it instead of treading on eggshells all the time, it isn’t healthy.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 11/05/2024 23:34

Apply for a divorce and start the ball rolling - he can't ignore that...

Do whatever you need to to get him out!!

raspberryberet7 · 11/05/2024 23:34

HugeCwtch · 11/05/2024 22:44

My Husband hates my children

I didn't need to read more.
Why did you marry him?
Why are you still married to him?

This

Wheredidthebackboobscomefrom · 11/05/2024 23:36

If my children felt threatened by someone I brought into their lives, I would make sure to swiftly remove that person from their lives. Leave him.

ObsidianTree · 11/05/2024 23:36

DIVORCE HIM!

If you don't your kids will be out as soon as they are old enough to leave and won't look back. If you want any relationship with your kids once they are adults, stop this now.

What an awful situation for your kids to be in in their home.

Cornflakes44 · 11/05/2024 23:38

Why did you do this to your children? Honestly, get them out now and apologises for choosing a man over their childhood

bubblesforbreakfast · 11/05/2024 23:41

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:52

Thank you for your replies. I have seen a solicitor who said he would have a claim on the house technically and my best bet would be to offer to pay him a settlement to get him to leave. He is refusing to move out despite me asking him though. What do I practically do?

After each argument I have clearly said to him I cannot live like this and asked what he would be looking for in the event of a divorce. He just says I am emotionally abusing him by repeatedly threatening divorce and will not discuss the terms of a separation with me.

Then make good on your promise and kick him out. Give him a week, have it in writing. If he's not gone bag up his stuff leave it outside and change the locks.
Go with legal advice on the amount to pay him for the house. I'd start my offer at nothing and see what he claims for.

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/05/2024 23:51

He has to go. I couldn't live like this. Your kids come first. It's a short marriage but you need to speak to a solicitor. Marriage complicates things in that he now has a claim on your assets. You need legal advice and fast.

Livinghappy · 12/05/2024 00:01

How long have you been married? Currently cohabit would have this as a short marriage but depends on other factors such as his contribution to the household

Everyone shouting kick him out isn't reading the update as Op has said he won't leave however the Op can start divorce proceedings. This will show him that you are serious about ending the marriage.

As someone else said...plan the divorce. Do you have savings or other joint assets? An example...could you move/save money for the children into separate accounts? What about pension? He may have a small entitlement from point of cohabitation or marriage.

Do you have a levers? Is he due any money? Where did he live before? I assume he doesn't have children so not relying on housing them.

LifeExperience · 12/05/2024 00:49

Get the locks changed the next time he leaves the house and let him claim his portion of the equity in the house in your financial settlement.

You MUST get him away from your children. You forcing them to live with a man who neither likes nor respects them is damaging them--you're a mum and that takes precedence over your marriage to the twat.

Malbecmoron · 12/05/2024 00:53

I was a child in this situation and it's incredibly damaging. It sounds awful for all of you.

SleepPrettyDarling · 12/05/2024 01:11

He has to go. At least your children aren’t shared with him, and presumably will have little to no relationship with him going forward, so he doesn’t need to move somewhere with three bedrooms. I hope financially you can manage without him. Don’t look back.

Thevelvelletes · 12/05/2024 01:32

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:52

Thank you for your replies. I have seen a solicitor who said he would have a claim on the house technically and my best bet would be to offer to pay him a settlement to get him to leave. He is refusing to move out despite me asking him though. What do I practically do?

After each argument I have clearly said to him I cannot live like this and asked what he would be looking for in the event of a divorce. He just says I am emotionally abusing him by repeatedly threatening divorce and will not discuss the terms of a separation with me.

Emotionally abusing him !!!!
Wtf about the abuse he's doling out to the children
What a detestable excuse for a human being.

Nightowl1234 · 12/05/2024 01:39

LifeExperience · 12/05/2024 00:49

Get the locks changed the next time he leaves the house and let him claim his portion of the equity in the house in your financial settlement.

You MUST get him away from your children. You forcing them to live with a man who neither likes nor respects them is damaging them--you're a mum and that takes precedence over your marriage to the twat.

This is the right advice. Don’t worry about the settlement for now. Change the locks and put his stuff outside. And get yourself a good lawyer.

Your children won’t forgive you for ruining years of their childhood. If you stay with him, once your children leave for uni or jobs etc., do you really think they’ll ever come back to that house of misery to visit you? Do you think they’d ever bring your grandchildren back to visit you with that miserable, evil f*er in the house?

Take action now and salvage what is left of your children’s childhood. Poor bloody kids.

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

OP posts:
Lesina · 12/05/2024 02:17

Yes. You should divorce him. As soon as possible.

Thevelvelletes · 12/05/2024 02:21

Congratulations on a well founded decision.all the best for the future.

GreggsSteakBake · 12/05/2024 02:30

I would have given him a week but hey-ho.

Now you and your children can have some peace.

5YearsLeft · 12/05/2024 04:31

@BusyFinch That OP was pretty awful but I know sometimes these things can be like boiling a frog; it wasn’t terrible in the beginning, but then it gets warmer and warmer, and boom, you’re cooked.

That said, I’m so glad to read your update and that he’s going to get out. I guarantee he will probably engage in worse behavior before he goes, but he is no longer your problem - not your circus, not your monkeys. And if he causes any serious issues or actually puts his hands on your children, call the police.

Fraaahnces · 12/05/2024 04:38

Have him charged with child abuse. He has laid hands on your kids and been continually verbally and psychologically abusive. Your kids are old enough to convincing witnesses if required. I bet there are others who feel the same. Also coercive control with you. Bet he slinks off after this. Call DSS and ask them what is required.

urbanbuddha · 12/05/2024 05:28

You’ve done the right thing OP. It’s good he’s agreed to go.
Good luck.

TerrifiedOfNoise · 12/05/2024 06:31

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:54

Yes but what if he won’t go?

Call the police. The house is in your name so he can’t stay if you tell him to leave.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/05/2024 06:35

Speak to a solicitor and an financial adviser immediately. You may be able to remortgage and give him any equity he has claim to (if it's a joint account that pays the bills there may be some).

And ask him to leave ASAP. Your poor kids.

What stuck out for me is "he is generally a miserable person". Why would you want that for your life? And theirs?

TargetPractice11 · 12/05/2024 06:35

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

Well done OP.

👏 👏 👏

All the best for a happier life for you, and a better childhood for your babies.

Anameisaname · 12/05/2024 06:41

Well done OP. I hope this works out as well as it can for the divorce foe you

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