ok weirdo mumsnet men do you htink you kwn oany men who dont lok at pron

[codswallop]

cos i am rue they dont exist

Did we find out if cod's dh gets his rocks off to a nice bit of porn??

FWIW, I don't do porn, my longest bestest buddy only does gay porn if that counts,and my second longest bestest mate doesn't do porn.

There are some really insecure posters out tonight.......

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she did not have experience of it Oops!

Yes you speak a lot of sense about this oops

here I am again flaunting my non-porn using DH
I know stacks of men do, and lots of them probably do hide it from their wives/partners, but not him. he is too busy being a music geek - there is no time for anything else anyway

I started on a bit of Tess of the D'Urbervilles and I moved on to the hard stuff - Jane Eyre, Anna Karenina... I admit it, I'm a heroine addict.

LOL unquietDad.

They may find it 'morally unpleasant' but sometimes sexual instinct comes before morality. In fact I think morals always come after instinct tbh.

All men enjoy porn on some level - whether all men engage in it is another matter and comes down to morality I guess but I do not believe that any men do not enjoy it on some level. I wonder what the relationship between male hormone levels and enjoyment of porn is?

hmm that is a good question

Well, I'm not a mumsnet man (honest) but I do know one man who doesn't look at porn. My husband. Nothing wrong with it, if he wanted to, he just doesn't, and that's fine too. I wonder why so many women have this idea that ALL men are sex obsessed, dribbling over boobies and just killing time between sexual encounters. (and if they don't appear to be, it's because they are hiding it ) It's really unfair. Men are people, with hopes, fears, dreams, likes and dislikes..and yet they seem to be viewed as a walking penis by so many women, based on the many many threads I read on here, and what I see, hear and read in rl.

I wonder why so many women have this idea that ALL men are sex obsessed, dribbling over boobies and just killing time between sexual encounters.

Hmm you say you don't have a problem with pornography but then equate men who use porn to dribbling sex-obsessed morons killing time between sexual encounters . If that's your opinion then I'm sure your husband would deny it, whether he uses it or not!

In my experience men have trouble being aroused without visual input. That isn't a judgement on their moral character.

It's really utterly bizarre to insist that any behaviour is an absolutely universal attribute of either sex. Why are some of you so reluctant to allow men to display a range of behaviours? Those of you who say 'all the men I have slept with have used it' - does it not occur to you that this might not be a representative sample? I mean, you chose these men, so it would not be surprising if they had some sexual behaviours in common, would it? The common link is you, and your sexual preferences and attitudes. (I don't mean this in an accusing way - just an observation.)

Dh doesn't look at porn and he is not a 'she' man. I am sure he wouldn't mind a butchers at the odd Mayfair centrefold spread but the poor sod doesn't get half a chance!

I guess if it was lying around, I dunno, in a brabers or somewhere - or someone showed him something, then yes my DP would certainly look. He's done the blokes thing in the red light district in Amsterdam etc etc.

BUT My DP (and we've been together over 25 years) definitely does not buy or 'use' porn.

I don't look at porn.

Never felt the desire to after my teenage years when i started sampling the real thing.

I like looking at women in real life really. It's much more titillating (?) to see a hint of something real and tangible rather than a photo of some cheap tart baring her tatty undercarriage for the whole world to see.

I don't think ALL MEN USE PORN btw

I think the figures are about 40% of men regularly use internet porn sites

pretty low

LOL MP - well, I can hand on heart say that I have no problem with porn - seeing as it was me who always used to try to get dh to watch it back in the days when I was trying to get some action And he'd be there watching it with me and all of a sudden he'd turn round and ask me if I remember where he'd put his cuff links, or whether I'd done the salaries that day, or tell me he'd phoned his brother or.......So I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that he's not that bothered about it!

I just think a lot of men aren't as bothered as many women seem to think they are.

"They may find it 'morally unpleasant' but sometimes sexual instinct comes before morality. In fact I think morals always come after instinct tbh.

All men enjoy porn on some level - whether all men engage in it is another matter and comes down to morality I guess but I do not believe that any men do not enjoy it on some level"

I think this is true and sums up my attitude to porn. But you could say the same about a lot of human behaviour (overriding the instinct to murder your next door neighbour for playing loud music at 3am ), and choosing not to look at porn because you find it (at best) morally questionable is not weird or hypocritical. The fact that instincts can be held in check by morality is what makes us human.

I don't look at porn these days as what I have seen is uniformly violent and seems obsessed with aggressive anal sex. In that, my attitude is similar to my DW who I know gets turned on by eroticism in mainstream films but hates seeing sexual violence. I don't think it's because I'm a. a prude, b. a weird ladyman creature with fanjo and faun legs c. lacking in male hormones . It's just a seedy exploitative industry I'd rather not be a part of.

FWIW I discussed this with my dh last night. He says he uses porn because it is an immediate release. Men can switch on and off in an instant (I'm sure we have all witnessed our dh's having a sexy moment which can simply be triggered by us bending over to empty the washing machine!) They are very visual, where as us women generally take abit longer and need to be in the zone.

Men from all walks of life use porn. It's nothing to be ashamed off and no reflection on their character or their relationship.

In fact what concerns me more is women who try to control and police their partners thoughts. That's woryying imo and I'd hate it if anyone ever did that to me.

Yeah - i suppose there is a bit of truth on that DDD. I don't really want to give my money to the people involved in it either.

Maybe what I need is vanilla porn made by a feminist co-operative.

Good luck with that

I think my dh thinks the same as you DDD.

I don't understand the suggestion in this thread that there is some connection between porn and masculinity.

I've always thought porn a very lonely thing, and manipulative and a bit sad really. I think men that use porn excessively are a little lacking and bereft somehow. Because it's a multi-million dollar industry, we're all mean to think its a great, manly pursuit, but really it's not at all.

I still think there's something essentially very sad about it.

Oh, just read your post DrN. I do think its a reflection on their characters - not their lives perhaps - but certainly on them as people.

It is shaming too, not morally, and not for teenager. But for fully grown men, it seems such a foolish hobby somehow.

Not all men are the same.

DH doesn't get kicks from looking at porn pics, he says he doesn't see how a picture is sexy.

However he does like to watch porn occasionally, in fact we both do and it is a fun addition to our sex life.

not a connection between porn and masculinity but porn use and testosterone levels - which increase right-brain activity - which would possibly increase the use of porn

maybe dunno

I'm sure we have all witnessed our dh's having a sexy moment which can simply be triggered by us bending over to empty the washing machine!

I'm sure we would ALL have more sexy moments if we got to witness our husband's bending over to empty the washing machine