Things I wasn't aware of until I joined MN

[Truckulent]

This is meant to be light-hearted, as i'm snowed in and climbing the walls. If it gets 5 posts I'll be surprised.

Also this could end up with me and Belfastbloke posting.

But as a Dad wending my slightly puzzled way through life. Until I landed on MN I'd never heard, thought of or been aware of the following:

1. Greggs sausage rolls and Fruit Shoots are considered the work of the devil. I love the sausage rolls.

1. Wohm and SAHM debate, it's never cropped up before in my life, surely it's whatever suits each family.

1. Boden. Never ever heard of it before.

1. Breast and bottle feeding. Never really had an

opinion, if it wasn't working for the mother, fair enough I thought.

1. Zombie plans. Absolutely brilliant idea.

1. Pantenne, never heard of it but I'll give it a try. I

thought it was a shampoo.

1. How many men are considered twats.

1. Never seen the word cunt written down so many times and used in conversations.

1. Never realized how many feisty intelligent women

there are out there and wish I met more like you in RL (sounds a bit arse-licky but true) as i don't like cars debating with men can be so boring.

Self-indulgent? Probably.

Bored out of my brains? Yes, I need to get out again
and participate in some sort of sporting activity.

Any more things men (or women) didn't know.

Or am I on my own in dadsnet?

Does It Look Like I Give A F...

thank you.
I like.

My DW knows I post on here (MN in general) and she quietly reads my post - possibly to give me warning if I have posted something that might get me flamed.

However, we never acknowledge each other on site - we both have differing opinions on some things and would not want to damn each other (OK me damn her) by association

going back to the original question here, (and well done for getting more than 5 posts in dn btw) i never knew that piercing a childs ears is considered abuse by some, never heard of a mooncup, never knew about boden, [common chav emoticon] never knew there was an actual name for an emotional affair....

the list is quite possibly endless as i have necer come across so many opinions before in my life!

i do have a zombie plan...

Dilligaf has got a song and everything.

That there are some men who have the balls and courtesy to converse with women in a female dominated zone. I love my DH to bits but if it's 'girly' he won't get involved.

I have a lot of respect and a lot of love for the men on Mumsnet. :)

What's a real eye-opener for me is how horrible women can be about/to other women - either other posters or celebs. The amount of bitching that goes on...! Men are supposed to be "the enemy" and yet the vast majority of us like women and get on well with them.

Which I suppose leads me to my next big revelation on here - High Twattage Proportion. I boggle at the number of people who are married to, or in long-term relationships with, twats. (Or people who are twats if everything being said about them on here is true and not exaggerated.) Generally, most of my circle are decent blokes who'd be horrified at some of the stuff men "get away with" in the stories on here.

Then there's the flipside of this - the number of posts where there is a disproportionately hostile reaction to a man's error or oversight. It's as if everything else he has done right that day (week, year) is immediately irrelevant and not banked in the account.

Now, I'm prepared to concede that some people have more experience than I do (thank goodness) of dysfunctional relationships and can spot a Twat Symptom a mile off. But it does amaze me how unwilling some people are at first to cut their men a little slack, and/or to TALK to them rather than coming on here and slating them...

Truckulent, you really would like my (zombie expert) DP. He was just saying he wishes he I had been on MN last year, when he was stuck in a ghastly all-male project team who talked only of their cars and infidelities and who jogged together every lunch time in a nasty competitive way.

MN would have been a welcome breath of sanity by comparison.

UQD, I think that most women don't talk in those terms about their partners- not the fundamentally decent partners anyway. I don't think that I have ever posted anything remotely disparaging about my DP. Mainly because I don't have to.

ThisIsaNiceCage All male anything can be tedious.

When I'm out I do wind up some of the DH's in the group if they start talking about cars i just start talking to the DWs about washing and the difficulty of getting it dry in this weather, and how long to parboil the potatoes and about blanching the veg. Now I enjoy these conversations but I'm viewed suspiciously by the men.

And I like sport but I don't want to talk about it ALL the time.

Truck

I agree - I find it can be difficult to have a conversation with other men that is not about 'male subjects - sport etc'.

I like being a man and enjoy male friendships but I confess to having few male friends that have stood the test of time - because the conversations always seem to revolve about things that are not central to my life and role as a H, father etc.

I am a bit of a butterfly in my interests with pretty much anything being of general interest - and few if any subjects being of the nerdy / fanatical level that seems to be the default position for many men I come across.

On the high level of Twats

The ones I like are the 'he goes out 4 times a year and gets drunk' ' he's an alcoholic'
Isn't that most men? In this case I'm an alcoholic. I do read and think to some posts, that's not too bad.

Then I'd read 'I'd tear him a new one' it took me a while to work that one out.

And how come these twats seem to move from relationship to relationship? Seemingly having numerous children? Why do women stay with them, I wouldn't life is too short.

I've lots of views on MIL's which I missed off my original list, I read one thread where it was about MIL coming round to clean the house and you'd have thought the DH had asked his mum to come round and sacrifice goats in the living room.

Iamnotreallysure.

I like talking about sport, mainly cricket and rugby though, but not all the time and I find they are more esoteric.

I like talking about everything and anything...except cars.

Fortunately I meet a few people who'll have decent conversations, but not enough.

I'm going to ask at work who has a zombie plan, and which way their they hang their toilet rolls.

I don't say nasty things about DP.

But like BoF, it's because I don't have to.

Truck

I have missed the thread on the correct hanging of toilet rolls? Man to man please can you help me...

that you really shouldn't google drsgon butter

mooncups

pendants, love them

zombie plans

Ah, but there is not only a correct way to hang toilet rolls, there is only one acceptable colour for the aforementioned posterior cleaning implement.

And texture and scent is important too.

Pendants, or Pedants? I love pedants corner, even though I am sometimes a little scared of posting there.

I meant pedants lol what a word to make a typo on lol

I wondered about the Pendants.
Pedants corner is brilliant.

Not a criticism. But I didn't know under 8s could load and put on washing machines.

My 3.5 yo can do this (with supervision obv)

she and 18 month old Ds also 'help' hanging clothes on the clotheshorses to dry, and bring their plates to th kitchen for washing up after meals

Startem young I say

Trukulent....sooo funny.

We are a pernickity lot, and Im new to this but Im very aware of how not to get involved in bf/opinionated discussions etc on this site....scary scary

Love the zombie plan and love Greggs sausage rolls but not as much as their bacon/cheese wrappie things :)