Wayfair Scandal

[user1209]

What are your thoughts on the above?

I have looked in to it and watched/read a lot of things and can't help but think this is most likely true.

Although it's likely we will never know the truth.

Well.....

Thanks for the responses, although some distasteful names being thrown around which is uncalled for.

After reading all responses and looking into links I can see it's unlikely, although still something weird about it all.

It's not really all that hard to believe, a bit far fetched albeit but who would have know there was a peedo island with well know names and people of influence, god even Royal Family members, all sexually abusing children and flying them here there and everywhere to be passed around?

The extend of al this will probably always be unknown.

It needs to be talked about, and I completely agree that these types of theories harm genuine trafficking victims and police efforts, I would just like to try and educate myself on the matter

Wonder how many people ridiculing the 'conspiracy theorist's' believe in God.

Where's the evidence for this?
Yet top scientists believe it, you are made to swear on a Bible in court.

God bless the Queen? Wonder how many people say that.

But when the evidence for child sex trafficking is blatantly obvious.
It's a joke?

The conspiracy theorists I imagine being the demographic that they are believe in god.

I don’t.

But when the evidence for child sex trafficking is blatantly obvious.

No one is denying that child sex trafficking goes on, but there’s not the tiniest shred of evidence that a company that sells flat pack furniture is kidnapping children and selling them under their real names via a public “shallow web” commercial website.

There are plenty of resources online to educate yourself about trafficking.

I believe it's true.

Only an elite group of people already known to the traffickers are allowed to purchase these high price "items". An actual child is not sent in a wardrobe... or a cushion... the item is just a mask for what is actually being sold.

To refer to people as unhinged is nasty. If you disagree with someone, why resort to bullying tactics?

I can quite easily believe that some hugely powerful and wealthy men are pedophiles and they have used their position to help cover up their actions.

I can quite easily believe that there is a tragic amount of human trafficking going on.

I do not believe that they are using a furniture site to ship trafficked children around the globe inside hall cabinets. It just wouldn't fucking work for one thing. And sadly, there are far far easier and less riskier ways of doing it.

Jesus. They're not actually putting the kids inside the cabinets. You're 'buying' the child but not in the actual cabinet!

Definitely to do with the elite, pizza gate (check out the sicko Chrissy Teigans tweets for starters, and Tom Hanks) and trafficking of kids.

We live in a sick world.

Like just getting a job at the BBC. No questions asked.

Well this all came to light after Maxwell got arrested.

That article says children were sold inside the wardrobes. Eh! What a bizarre thing to believe.

Oh and plus, all this 'it's just a coincidence' bollocks is annoying. How can it be just a coincidence that they all have the names of missing kids! Sure. A coincidence.

Bit like Killary Clinton and all the coincidences around her!

Just rtft no I don’t think Wayfair are selling children even outside the furniture.

I have watched and read into all the Tom Hanks/Isaac Jappy/ Avicii / John Podesta (sickening video) etc

I have watched and read into all the Tom Hanks/Isaac Jappy/ Avicii / John Podesta (sickening video) etc

But don't forget just like the news is mostly full of shite, the conspiracy theory world is also marred with exaggerated shite too.

A lot of things on twitter etc have been doctored, instead of taking it at face value, you can retrace back to something original, which usually has nothing to do with Wayfair or pedogate etc.

But there is always always truth there.
It goes way way way back.

But they don’t all have the names of missing kids.

Only an elite group of people already known to the traffickers are allowed to purchase these high price "items".

If they are already known to each other then why not continue to conduct the transactions privately and securely, using TOR and bitcoin? That’s how all dodgy and illegal deals are done. Why on earth move the transaction to a shallow-web website that uses a registered mainstream payment system requiring a physical address and a bank account, which creates a huge paper trail and makes the entire thing extremely public and therefore risky as hell?

It’s the equivalent of, if you were selling pot and you already knew your customers, for some reason you suddenly decided that meeting in a car park or public toilet to hand over cash was no good. So instead you invented an elaborate system involving them coming into your place of work and announcing loudly in front of many witnesses “I’d like to buy a pair of MARY JANE shoes please wink wink.” And you handed them a credit card machine for their “shoes”. It just doesn’t make sense and would drive your buyers away.

Come on! They aren’t selling missing children on a popular and busy furniture website using the same names as the actual missing child!

I’m not sure that would be a good idea anyway. There is bound to be more than one missing child with the same name.

Because you have to understand universal law. If immoral acts are conducted in absolute secrecy, then they remain exactly what they are.
If you are fed a narrative, and you accept it. Example, illuminati Satanist symbolism pedogate blah blah blah, and you are being told: THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

And you go, nah sounds like bullshit conspiracy to me.
In universal law code, you can't say you weren't consulted on something and also accepted it. Therefore the conduct is infact not immoral because it was permissioned yourself, by deceit or not.

Although a price will be paid, this is how it is still going on.

How can it be just a coincidence that they all have the names of missing kids!

First, only a handful have the same names as children on the missing list.

Second, 800,000 children are reported missing every year. That’s a massive, massive number of names. I bet anything if you compared the names of literally anything you’d find crossover - take the characters from Friends to pluck an example out of thin air, you’d find “missing” children with the names Rachel Monica Phoebe Ross Joey and Chandler on the list. OMG proof Friends is linked to child trafficking!!

Third, something like 98% of children who are reported missing are found within a few hours. The vast, vast majority of the remaining 2% are runaways (mostly older teens) and children abducted by a family member as part of a custody dispute. This includes mothers abducting their own children to stop them being forced to spend time with abusive fathers.

At least one of the girls on the missing child/Wayfair crossover list was found safe and sound shortly after being reported missing. She’s probably watching TV with her parents right now. Yet her name is still being thrown around as proof she was trafficked, when she clearly was not trafficked, since she was found!

The vast majority of trafficked children are never reported missing because traffickers are careful to target highly vulnerable children (mainly those from developing countries, and most recently ICE detainees separated from their parents) who will not be missed or reported. In many cases the parents are groomed into giving permission or signing away parental rights. Traffickers do not roam the streets of America snatching middle class kids while their parents’ backs are turned.

The scary thing is that adults exist who can't evaluate a claim like that and see how ludicrous it is.

Someone told them that Bill Gates was going to kill people by forcing them to have vaccines which contained a microchip that would give them the Covid virus when activated by 5G signals from the secret lair of the ancient lizards that rule the world and they said "ah I thought as much"

When your argument starts taking the form of personal attacks and name calling, it's a pretty clear admission that you don't have anything valid or worthwhile to say.

What's even more concerning is not adults believing the theories, it's adults who can't have a conversation/debate with others, without throwing insults if they disagree.

@user1209 that's not true.

user1209, I wrote six lengthy paragraphs over two posts using facts to calmly and rationally explain the multiple reasons why the evidence does not stack up. Nowhere in those two posts is there the slightest hint of personal attack or name calling.

The conspiracy theorists on this forum have not even attempted to provide any evidence or reasoned argument, but have done nothing but throw nasty names and horrendous accusations at anyone attempting to debunk this, with the agenda of belittling and silencing any dissenting opinion. Your post is deeply hypocritical.

Truth can be subjective to individual experience. Although recognising the actual truth is very difficult when referring to that statement.

Which is why these kind of debates never end well.

It's not your job to change or educate anyone. You can have an opinion. There's really no point in getting upset if people don't believe you etc.

I agree, there's definitely truth in this issue but Mumsnet is probably not the right demographic in this circumstance to get your message across, without backlash.

I was obviously not talking about everyone, as there have been some helpful responses.

I was talking about anyone who hurled a personal insult, regardless of that they think of the wayfair situation.