What to take to prison 2

[drinkswineoutofamug]

Not a great title but can't think of anything catching this time of the morning. Will figure out how to link to the old thread.

My DS has just phoned. He's had a visit from probation - they are looking at putting him in a bail hostel when he's released in 4 months, for 3-6 months. Evidently they've decided he's a high risk to everyone and needs supervising. I've no idea where they've got this from - yes he's been stupid but honestly he's not a risk at all. They are also saying that as we have a younger son he could be a risk to him??? Until this, DS has never been in any trouble, worked full time and never been a problem to anyone (bloody messy at home though!).His job is still open for him when he gets out in fact. I can't believe that they will chuck him in a hostel, away from his support network and potentially losing him his job. It just gets worse!. Hope things are going OK for the rest of you - or as well as they can be x

Hiya Jeremy , I don't know what you lad is in for and I'm not asking. My daughter is classed as a high risk prisoner when she's inside. For her I think it was the multiple assault charges/drugs/alcohol.
Would the hostel be anywhere near you? His work? And what do they think happens next when he leaves the hostel and comes home to where his younger sibling whom he's such a risk to lives? Is there anyone you can ask? I'm lucky that I have a good relationship with my daughters probation worker. Unfortunately it makes her think I'm in league with them against her. Anyhoo.
I'm ok , work at home now done, house back in order. Job interview next week and doing uni work.

Daughter is home. I threw her gf out last night as because of the weather she thought she could smoke in my house amongst other things. She then kept phoning the house as she had nowhere to stay. I unplugged the phone. I'm not having a drunk in my house who can't abide by my rules. Simple as.

Crikey drinks. What did yr daughter have to say about it all? Or was she drunk too? What bloody happy lives we lead eh?

She was drunk too and came and asked me to get rid of the gf before it escalated. Then afterwards told me some stuff that's been going on 😡

Oh Drinks 💐 I hope your daughter is ok too x

Well new chapter for me. I have a new job offer. It's a step in the direction I wanted to take career wise. I'm very proud of myself my confidence was knocked badly by the workforce view I went through.
Not seen daughter, she's gone again. Lasted not even 72 hrs

Food luck in your new ventures Drinks x sorry to hear about your daughter leaving again.
I don't want to say much about my son in case I jinx things but so far so good.

Good!

Got a phone call last night at 10:45. She's been arrested for a drunken domestic, whatever that means. She came back to me for a few days. I had her drinking down, kept her busy and fed her. Will possibly find out more later.

Hi guys,

Just catching up.

Great to see new family members joining and receiving support.

Blimey, Drinks, she's done well and here we go again. Hope she's okay. The demon drink has a grip on her.

Jeremy,

Your DS will be placed in what is known as approved premises. This can be up to 12 weeks and it's all depending on bed spaces. Are you in touch with his probation officer? They're usually quite open to family members being a part of resettlement.

Drinks - where is your daughter in her licence?

Just hugs for all x
My son is doing ok and his money seems to be finally sorted at the moment to back where it was. He is back bothering with decent friends and is actually going away for two days with them for a birthday celebration this weekend. I will worry but he seems to be doing ok.
Still on probation and to be honest I hope it continues for a while as it is keeping him focused. We are also paying privately for a counsellor for his anger management and that seems to be working.
However, it only takes one thing for it all to come crashing down again. I have been home with him every day for the last 7 weeks as I broke my ankle and am not due back in work until a week Monday.
Thoughts and hugs to you all x 💐

Mc I don't know where she's up to with her licence. It all blends into the same shite.

Hi all. Not much going on our end. Looks like a trial in January with some pretty serious charges. How the hell did I end up here? I'm struggling to understand how my quiet, placid autistic son is in prison!!
Hes in a bad way and says he is going to stop eating as its the only way for him to end his life.
I think we all deserve a bloody holiday!! Barbados anyone?

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Sammy - is your DS receiving some support in prison? He should be. Did he receive any medical input into his case before being remanded in custody?

He was diagnosed with (high functioning) autism whilst he was in prison. And anxiety and depression. Other than anti depressants (which he didn't get until he was 3 months in prison) he's not had any other help. He has been on suicide watch sporadically and has seen mental health 3 times but they haven't done anything. He's had 2 psychiatric reports. One recommends a hospital order, the other doesn't.
He is classed as convicted, awaiting sentence as he pleaded guilty to the first charge of importing a weapon (to kill himself!) They are now pursuing other charges with regards to the weapon (i.e. that he was going to shoot someone). He denies this and says he was only going to shoot himself. He's in a terrible state. He hasn't showered or brushed his teeth in 4 months!! I've complained to the prison and I've complained to his barrister. Nobody takes any notice!

@Sammysees,

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm sure he is. Is he in a CAT A?

So his PSR recommended a hospital order and Judge went with prison. Diagnosed while in prison and only prescribed anti-ds - effectively hes not being treated for his condition by the sounds of it.

I'll come back with you on how you can progress this. There is a way and it takes a lot of work. (I work with people leaving prisons & am a former prisoner) he's going to trial in January?

Sorry if I'm confusing you. He hasn't been sentenced yet. He was arrested and charged with an offence of importing a weapon (smuggling basically) and pleaded guilty. He was remanded in custody although I'm told he's not on remand as he's pleaded guilty so is 'convicted awaiting sentence'. There are other charges but he's not been to court to plead yet. He's in a YOI as he's only 18. I understand that the prison service is woefully underfunded but that doesn't help when its your child does it? I don't have a trial date (he's not pleaded yet) but his barrister reckons it would be January.

I guess I should add that both psych reports were done when he was in prison. Thank you. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Hugs to you Sammy xx and for your son x

@drinkswineoutofamug I have just spent a good hour and a half reading both your threads the whole way through. Wow. I am so sorry you are going through all of this, but I am also amazed at how strong you are. You are doing SO well by the sounds of it, most people would have crumbled after all of this.

I hope there is light at the end of the tunnel for you soon. Just wanted to drop in and say how incredible I think you are 

Thank you @Willow789 .
I tried the other day to read back through the original thread and nearly cried. It was how supportive people where and the post when I saw her for the first time in prison.
tiny I'm so glad your son is doing so well. Fingers crossed it carries on. He's got the support of a fabulous mum. How's the ankle btw?
sanmy I'm so sorry. I don't know what to suggest. I will read through again what you have posted.

I'm waiting either for daughter to walk through the door or a phone call to say where she is.

Drinks ankle is on men'. Plaster is off but still sore. Doing exercises. Going to Belgium next week as it is half term. I am going back after half term all things being equal 

Mend!