What to take to prison 2

[drinkswineoutofamug]

Not a great title but can't think of anything catching this time of the morning. Will figure out how to link to the old thread.

She just isn't arsed

Sorry to hear this drinks. My son has to have discharge. Papers from probation before his claim for ESA can be processed.
He has his first probation appointment tomorrow.
You can do no more for her. Like my son she has to want to move on.
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The system is screwed tiny , if your son and my daughter didn't have loving parents like us. They would crash and burn. No wonder the reoffending rate is so high. There is no support out there , I didn't believe it till I witnessed it first hand.

My son tried to get his benefits sorted but needed discharge papers. We don't have them. Probation said they would email but nearly ;8 hrs later nothing heard back.
I will ring them again today and if no luck I will ring the chaplain at the prison to see what can be done. I only hope I didn't throw it out with all the other duplicates he brought home regarding his restraining order

Did he get release papers from the prison. We took those to the job centre and they excepted them. Her proof of address was the letter the job centre sent her with her appointment on. Best of luck sorting it

I am not sure. We have a log burner and my husband burnt a load of stuff the day before we went to the job centre. My own fault for hating paper lying around. It must have got caught up with stuff.
I will ring the relevant agencies!
I am so stupid!

Your not stupid, just got a lot on your mind

Thanks Drinks! My husband has just sorted out numbers to ring tomorrow as I work in a school and can`t phone during school times and being a Friday and a bank holiday it is better for him to ring.

Tiny - you're not stupid. I was a mortgage underwriter, paperwork and protocols are my thing. I even enjoy filing and photocopying. At work, I made Sheldon Cooper look a bit slack.

It still took me four years, a support worker and a tribunal to get all my benefits finally sorted out. I genuinely believe it's designed to be difficult and off putting to claimants. I wouldn't have been surprised if a white rabbit with a pocket watch, a girl called Alice and the Cheshire cat had been present at my tribunal.

I'm not in any way suggesting it will take you this long - I became unfit for work at exactly the point that the coalition govt decided to redo all of the benefits system, so it was a proper shambles, even compared to now. Keep at it, you'll get there. .

The prison say he left with it but to go back to Probation. I think this is one of those situations where different authorities will bat us back and forth!

Oh the joys of Probation. Even they don't know what they're doing. Ask then about benefits and housing, they have no idea.

Nice to see you Drinks. Sadly, society happily blames Probation, but they're there to ensure their service-users are not re-offending. There is a degree of personal responsibility.

We've just had a service-user turn up 22 hours late then hung up on me as the key holder is out with her family having fun. As people do on their day off.

Apparently, we are supposed to let SU know of our diaries. 22 hours later. SU was not arsed at 6pm yesterday when the key holder was waiting for her to appear at the agreed time.

I'll help anybody who buys into what we have on offer, but I won't accept combative behaviours towards my team when things don't go the SU way.

You've done more than any other parent would in the circumstances that have beset you and your family.

Comes a time when responsibility and decision-making needs to be addressed.

Hi @tinytemper66 hope you are okay, also you @drinkswineoutofamug.

@Mc180768 I don't think anyone on this thread has been slating probation? Quite the opposite? But as you have implied yourself, I do think probation are overstretched and can't fully provide the support that offenders need on release?

Hi @catinboots9 how you doing.

@Mc180768 no one is slatting probation. I feel they do a thank less job. It's an actual job I'm interested in doing in the future.
And yes it is up to the service user to get their arse in gear and deal with it. I've drawn the line now. My daughter is 20, an adult , it's always everyone's fault but hers.

Probation have been great but I don't know where to start with the missing paperwork. They are aware of it but the probation officer linked to my son's is part time so will not be aware of the situation until Tuesday when he has the next appointment.
If I get no luck I will go back to the solicitor. I have two pieces of paperwork that came home with him but not the one Universal credit/ job centre wants.
It is a thankless job no doubt. My husband had his eyes open when he and my son were waiting for the appointment in the probation office. My son could never go there alone. He would be so vulnerable.

I must have put that clumsily. I didn't think any person was slating Probation. Since the privatisation it has been a car crash for probation officers and SUs alike.

The initiative is called 'Through the Gate' and has been widely criticised.

The newly-formed CRCS (private companies) supervise 70% of low to medium risk offenders following exit from custody. What was supposed to happen was they were to work with VCF sector & commission services so people exiting custody had a wrap-round service. That has not happened.

The casualties of this are rhe people leaving custody as they have nothing other than £47 discharge grant and have to wait weeks for benefits. The newly formed CRCS are up against it and are constantly crticised for not doing enough.

Hope that's better explained.

@Rinytemper66 Is it the licence agreement you're needed for UC purposes? For ID? I'd send the PO an email and ask for an email copy of it. They can also write a letter as a governing body; if for ID anything from the Secretary of State should suffice. We always them for UC and upload them onto the online portal.

I am not sure why they need it. He has PIP so that can be used for verification. My husband went with him as I was in work. I can't always get time off as I work in a school. He has made the probation office aware of what we need and hopefully will be resolved on Tuesday.
Thanks for the responses x

He may not have had a form if he was on remand. I have to email someone today to find out.
Probation have been great. A straight talker who doesn't feel sorry for my son as he is disabled.
She recognised as we did that it is all down to money.
He has all his benefit money (bar what I take for bills, living costs etc) and he has been used by so called friends for it and when he has eventually said no or spent it elsewhere this is what has happened!

My wonderful ( very sarcastic) daughter is wanted by the police for being a knob. Not going into details but it includes a fall out and a coffee table. Don't know where she is. Last time I spoke to her was this morning when I confronted her about it. Then she's vanished.

Oh no drinks. She's determined to hit rock bottom again isn't she? You've worked so hard but I guess it's true what they say about the person needing to accept a problem and what help before they can head on the up.

Hope your OK?

Have you booked that holiday yet? Apparently Turkey has some great deals atm if that's your thing?

Holiday is booked . 3 weeks lying on a beach doing sweet fuck all.
I'm ok with it. Disappointed but got better things to worry about. God that sounds harsh. I've got an final essay to write, and work shite still going on. My life still goes on

Enjoy your break. We are going away soon and I know I will be on edge the whole time we are away. My mum will stay up but she is in her late 70s and I just hope nothing happens.
The paperwork scenario is sorted as in it is with probation and we pick it up Tuesday so hopefully benefits can be restored.
Probation said he has had a shock and seems that it frightened the life out of him being inside. This I hope will be a memory he will think about when out in a situation he is unsure how to handle.
Thanks those who add to this thread. Great advice xx

She's been arrested again!
Don't know wtf to do with her. Don't know the reasons , but know the back story. Just had a text off her social worker to say she's been lifted. She was only released Friday morning 😠 total fucking idiot

Drinks I am sorry to know this is happening again 💐

Oh drinks