JoJo Dullard

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The details emerging are just beyond shocking. I just hope that the family get justice and those who knew pay the price.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/family-missing-jo-jo-dullard-9984097

Why is it inappropriate, when her sister has talked about the scar in depth?

Can you clarify why exactly you think it's inappropriate? I think some people just say that everything is inappropriate.

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A minister can’t and should not direct a judge to issue a search warrant.
This is a decision for the judge.

As for Leo Varadhkar, I hardly think he resigned over a cover up which supposedly happened while he was in school.

My pal saw LM attempt to abduct a young woman in Summer 1998 in Dublin and went to the Gardai but they never even took a statement, not sure if they even took her name. She had some specific details, obviously i wont say here. She obviously didn't know who he was but a few years ago she saw his pic and she said her blood froze as she recognised him immediately. Her conscience bothered her and she got in touch with DJs investigating team a few years ago and was interviewed. I get so bloody angry every time I think of it. How many other unreported incidents were there, how many missed opportunities to catch this guy. How many women could have been saved.

I'm so glad to see movement on this. People have known that this man is the prime suspect for years and he's been living freely and has apparently been protected from thorough investigation for thirty years.

I don't fully understand the sightings - the barefoot woman, the naked woman etc. I'm not sure if they're verified? They seem to indicate that two men were in the car.

Weird how many psychopaths appear to be living in this very localised area too. Chilling.

I have very little hope but please God they find her remains and she can be buried with her family. They seem like such lovely people and they have suffered so much loss.

There were sightings of a woman trying to escape a car on the night. It was featured on a TV programme in the years since. I think it was a taxi driver who witnessed it. At the time of course there were no mobile phones. The driver reported more than 1 man was in the car.
I think that seemed as if the Guards thought the occupants of the car had left the country and were heading for a ferry when sighted.

I guess I'm confused as to why that's rarely mentioned in reports. They mustn't be sure about it if they say the last sighting of her was at the phone box in Moone.

You said its weird how many psychos live in a local area.

I met a woman once who told me that there are a lot of perverts and paedophile gangs that go to operate out of the wicklow mountain area. As it is one of the most secluded parts of ireland.

I've read that the suspect admitted at the time that he gave Jo Jo a lift but he was 'eliminated from enquiries'. After being the last to see her. That seems very odd if true.

Much worse in the protestant churches. Northern Ireland with half again as many recorded femicides, and a huge level of violence against women. There's a reason the witch panic happened in the 17th century; much of it was deeply misogynist (Catholic Ireland had no witch trials). 16th c protestants rejected several Old Testament books, including Judith, about a powerful woman taking on male power, and Tobit, with a family setting and two more strong resilient women. Catholic women also have a lot of strong female role models among the saints - strong in a lot of different ways - and a tradition of schools and education that was established very early.

Obviously there was a lot that has gone wrong in Ireland, but the church was not solely responsible. In this horrible case, farming and politics seem more culpable.

He dropped her off at the phone box. But as she made a call after that it could be confirmed that she was alive at that point so it was probably not unreasonable to rule him out to some extent.
There's also some reports that someone gave him an alibi that accounted for his whereabouts after that so he was ruled out as a suspect.

The catholic church did absolutely horrific things to women last century. Not that long ago.

If a woman was raped, the Catholic church told the woman it was her fault, and locked her up for years in a magdelene laundry.

I was just speaking to a customer though work the other day, and he remembers all the magdelene laundries.
He said that he used to say to his mother that it was wrong that the teenage girls were locked up like that, amd she would say "shh we don't want the priest to hear you saying that".

Let's not forget all the Catholic paedophile priests, who abused multitudes of children either.

They were a perverse and twisted cult.

The man who was arrested recently is COI not RC by the way!

There's also some reports that someone gave him an alibi that accounted for his whereabouts

I see, thanks. I wonder who the alibi was.

I don't care what religion he was.

I'm just irritated at the poster who said that the Protestant churches were much worse than the Catholic church.

I know a lot of people in Ireland who have had their lives absolutely destroyed by the Catholic church.

My own mother had polio as a child and was put in a Catholic hospital for a year..

The catholic nuns in the hospital, instead of caring for her as a child, beat her back and blue. If she got sick they made her eat her vomit. They were disgusting.

They beat one of the other children in my mother's hospital ward so badly, that to thisday she still walks with a limp. I know her.

I also know people who had their lives destroyed by paedophile Catholic priests.

The catholic church has done a huge amount of damage in Ireland.

The catholic church has done a huge amount of damage in Ireland.
Nobody's going to argue with that. I was just pointing out that they had no influence on the actions of this particular man.

Magdalen homes, invented by Anglicans in the late 18th centuries, later copied worldwide by other protestant denominations and by Catholics. Child abuse rampant in the Catholic church, and in protestant Scotland, and in English public schools, and the cause of the resignation of the Archbishop of Canterbury this week.

There has been a lot wrong in Ireland, and the church that 95% of the population belonged to was a part of that, inevitably. Apart from anything else, it was a ready source of well-trained, low paid or unpaid workers (nuns and brothers) to help the state impose its wish for a respectable, hard working, educated, society. Blaming an imaginary other that is 'the church' is denying both historic and current reality. 'The church' was almost everyone.

I don't agree that the church was 'almost everyone'though.

I was talking to a man who grew up in the 1950s.

He said that a lot of normal people thought that what the Catholic church were doing was wrong. But that the Catholic church had such immense power at the time, that if you stood up to them in any way, they would ruin your life in the community.

They had way too much power over the country. They had huge power in Government, over workplaces, hospitals, schools, communities. The Catholic church was tied to everything.

Finally people in Ireland are starting to break free from them a bit. It will be a better country in the future.

Do you really think Ireland has become a better, safer, place for women? Rather than a place with a different set of dangers and challenges.

I think there were improvements in attitudes towards women from the late 90s on but that has reversed again in the past 10 years or so.

I think on balance it has. A man can no longer beat his wife to a pulp, leave for 6 months, return for sex and beat her again. There are routes to escape DV now that was unthinkable 60 years ago. I think this the issues women face in Ireland now are the same as those in other Westen societies.

I think however men are safer now. We talk a lot about the role of women and lack of rights, but the extent of abuse, physical and sexual, to young boys was epidemic. What the priests and Christian brothers did and got away and the damage it caused I think still hasn't been fully appreciated. I heard someone say they weren't 'really' abused as the CB would only fondle the outside of boys trousers under the table when looking at school work. And that they were 'only' beaten occasionally with a cane and it didn't leave scars, so it wasn't too bad really. The threshold for what counted as abuse was so high, if you weren't being whipped naked or raped you counted yourself lucky. I personally think a very significant number of our alcoholic men over the generations were damaged sexually abused boys living with terrible shame and fear. I know there will always be abusive adults and paedophiles in the world but hopefully we will never ever have anything like the scale of it again.

Terrible stuff, but not unique to Ireland. See again this week's resignation by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and what prompted it. Remember the comic, Beano and Dandy, where a child being beaten was the entertaining punchline of weekly stories. At the age of 9 my classmates and I were hit in our secular primary school in comfortable suburban 1960s England. It was horrible, it was unremarkable. As was the system of shuffling pregnant teenagers into secular NHS-run homes were they were pressured to put their babies up for adoption.

The past was a different place, not just in Ireland.

And Conor McGregor. And the cases discussed here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/craicnet/4494652-light-sentencing-in-ireland-re-crime and the cases Paddy O'Gorman interviews on his Paddy's people podcast.

A man definitely still beat a woman to a pulp in Irelqnd and get away with it.

Look at the recent conor mcgregor case.

Apparently the woman he was with was extremely badly bruised all over her body.

The paramedic that saw her said she had some of the worse bruises he had ever seen.

Yet the guards refused to charge conor with anything at the time

A lot of Other places aren't great either.

But I don't think ireland is a great place to be a woman to be honest.

I've lived in Ireland and I've lived in Canada. I was treated with so much more respect in Canada.

The minute I came back to Ireland , I felt the disrespect again from men.

There is definitely a culture of disrespect towards women in ireland.
I remember going out at 18-19, and even at a very young age, hearing the young men saying very disrespectful things about women.

They would say

"any hole's a goal"

And they would say " if a girl kisses two men she's a slut, if a man has sex with three woman he's a stud"

And the would say "you beat the woman but you can't beat the craic with the lads"

They were constantly laughing at and sneering at women.