Kyran Durnin - awful story.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2024/10/24/family-member-reported-kyran-durnin-missing-24-hours-after-tusla-alert/

This poor boy. The story just gets more and more upsetting.
There's so much wrong here, I really hope they find him/ his body so he can get some peace.

How did Tusla end up involved with the family.

It doesn't appear to be the school, it certainly wasn't the grandmother or mother?

Was it father or paternal family.

Another question is Kyran and family from travelling community. It would potentially explain no following up if family were travelled to different areas

TUSLA were following, they were being fobbed off to the point another child was presented as being Kyran and then it came to the point that Tusla had to report the matter to the Gardai. The school didn't follow up because presumably there's no mechanism or protocol for them to do so if told a child is transferring out of state

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I am wondering how did Tulsa end up involved in first place.

They aren't checking on children without a referral

Someone contacted them, I'm wondering who it could have been.

I don't see how that would be the case. Surely travellers are treated the same as other kids and the follow up was simply inadequate because of some bureaucracy between checks between NI and Ireland.

She's been let go. This is behind a paywall on the Irish times

Gardaí believe the arrest of a woman on suspicion of the murder of Kyran Durninn_, who would be aged 8 years if still alive, will “inform” the criminal investigation into his death, though it is still expected to take some time. The woman was released without charge on Wednesday afternoon.Garda sources said it was never expected the arrest would result in criminal charges. Instead, it was carried out as detectives wanted to put evidence gathered to date to the woman as part of a long-range strategy in the case.

Also the following is in the same article. With no body I am perplexed how they can be so certain

However, Garda sources said there was “really no doubt” Kyran was dead. Hopes, however slim, he may still be alive when the case became public knowledge in the summer had now completely faded. Gardaí suspect the boy died sometime in the second half of 2022. The woman arrested was questioned “on suspicion of murder” under Section 4 Criminal Justice Act 1984.

I was able to watch the spotlight programme, all I can say is holy god almighty. What on earth is going on. So many to blame, so , so many questions and I hope and pray that the Gardai have much more than they are telling us. There's so much covering up by her family. I hope he's found.

It was just on the news that a man has now been arrested.

Sounds like the man who allowed his son to be used as a decoy to the Tusla meeting and used to check into the accommodation . It looks like his house is being searched now.

One thing we've learnt from all the shocking cases of children 'known to the authorities' in this country and the UK who ended up murdered by their parents is that violent parents can be incredibly devious, and very convincing.

It's like sexual abusers, who can live outward lives of apparent 100% normality while wreaking havoc on children's lives, be it their own or other children's.

Why would anyone doubt a mother who turns up at a meeting with 'her' little boy? They will from now onwards, probably, but the idea of a mother presenting a stranger as her [murdered] son is so off the wall that it's not surprising that people just accepted it.

Social workers, as well as being hugely overworked, are in a 'damned if they do/don't' situation with child protection - they get flak if they fail to take a child away from parents who turn out to be abusive, and they also get flak for taking children away from parents who may turn out to be abusive.

It's no wonder so few people want to work in child protection, and that's causing low staffing levels and high workloads so children are left unprotected.. a vicious circle.

That is Daylas ex. The place up that way was swarming yesterday with gardai and diggers.

There's still no sign 😔

The thing that's confusing me is, if a decoy child was used and it's looking like there was, surely the kid would say something, slip up, what about the 2 girls ? If they were all on SS radar then surely one of them would say something when this little boy was pretending to be someone else. I know over the years when our own SW or therapists came here one of my other kids when younger were only too eager to tell them everything.

He has now also been released without charge.

I'm not very knowledgeable regarding arrests but I'm thinking that the Gardai do this 'arrest, question then released without charge'. Then build the case with the evidence from the questioning, I'm sure they need concrete evidence/strong case before putting to the DPP, and re arrest and charge.

I bet the mother and that man are denying all knowledge of what happened. They probably have to arrest to begin with so that they can question them for the maximum time plus they can't charge immediately unless they confess or there's is actual evidence they're responsible.

Hopefully there's a breakthrough and the little lad is found. I was just reading that the Dad had been granted full custody in August, so I wonder is this what kicked this all off? He gets full custody, then there's no child, shocking that he was going through the courts the whole time his little boy was missing and no one knew, only those responsible.

Well I'd love to hear her explanation as to why she is unable to produce her child, where is she pretending she left him, and when?
Has the grandmother ever been arrested over the false missing persons claim does anyone know?

According to the spotlight programme Dayla said she left Kyran with the father of one of the girls in Newry, when the journalist went to speak to him, he wouldn't allow camera's, he seemingly said he knew nothing about Kyran being left with him until Gardai told him and hadn't seen Kyran since end of March 2022, Dayla cut contact with this man until well into 2023 and when she allowed him to visit his daughter the end of 2023 he asked where Kyran was and she told him that he begged to go live with the granny in Drogheda.

Hmm, so she left her child safe and well with this man a couple of years ago, but yet her mother made a missing person report on August saying the child had slept on her sofa the night before...... What a ridiculous tissue of lies, I hope they both, and whoever actually harmed the child if neither of them, rot in jail.

She left Kyran which was not a biological son of her daughter's father yet the grandmother appears to have had the biological child of this man.

This is such a shocking web of lies, weak unbelievable, nonsensical lies at that.

This case just getter stranger and stranger.

This case is getting more and more troubling. RTE now reporting that the man who was questioned last week on the case has been found dead in Drogheda

From the report it sounds like he may have taken his own life

The gardai have said his death is a 'personal tragedy' so he killed himself. That has to be guilt right there.

This is the strangest case ever clearly multiple family members covering up whatever happened and lying. I just don't know how anyone could do that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2ev0el91go

I hope he at least left info on where the poor boy is hidden. So many evil people in that child’s life I can’t even comprehend it. His poor sisters too.