Kyran Durnin - awful story.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2024/10/24/family-member-reported-kyran-durnin-missing-24-hours-after-tusla-alert/

This poor boy. The story just gets more and more upsetting.
There's so much wrong here, I really hope they find him/ his body so he can get some peace.

I am not buying that the attack was in 2021, May (I think) 2021.

That was over 3yrs ago, that's an absolute bul*it excuse.

He didn't leave school until 2022, 12 months after the attack.

The CA is also no excuse for a child to not have a dedicated SW and no excuse to have photo of every child attached to their file.

Is the mother in custody, where is she now?

I know she has been located but doesn't have information on Kyron, yet her mother claims she left a note saying she needed time away and took Kyron with her, at same time she leaves her other children behind.

It just isn't making any sense.

But we know her mother is lying, the story she originally gave Gardai last August was that the child and his mum were sleeping on her sofa and when she got up next day they were gone with a note saying she had to get away for a bit. The child hasn't been seen for 2 years, he was not in her house, she made that report because she found out TUSLA were reporting their concerns to Gardai

Has the maternal grandmother been brought in for questioning, if she is lying about the last time she saw Kyron?

Have the other children being interviewed? Is that where the 2 yrs since last been seen is coming from?

Who has the kids now?

The mother is young, 24 yrs old with 3 kids.

Where the hell was the father throughout the last couple of years?

More and more questions.

I'm not expecting any answers from anyone.

All these people family, professionals involved and a child can vanish.

@MILLYmo0se, I read that, I'm just trying to get my head around a grandmother doing that.

It's just so awful and without sense. I mean, if the child is dead why didn't they all just move to the UK/NI for real if they were trying to hide it rather than staying here trying to fake him to TUSLA. It's all just beyond my understanding

We're all still none the wiser.

I actually can't believe that they are blaming the cyber attack sure you only have to Google it and it says march 2021🙄

I'm really hoping that the Gardai have much more information and are just not saying anything.

I hope this doesn't end up like all the other missing children unsolved cases

What's really confusing me is anything I'm reading it doesn't say the mother has, is being questioned what's going on there.

Where are the other kids are they still with the grandmother or in the hands of Tusla.

Not sure if either option is good for the kids, grandmother lying through her teeth and Tusla has already shown it's incompetence yet again.

Has anyone been claiming CB or a SW payment for Kyron?

I can't find anything on the mother, apart from a comment of she was located in UK and cannot help with whereabouts of Kyron.

Apparently SW & CB has been collected for Kyran and the other kids the whole time.

The information coming out is so disjointed, it is not making sense.

Obviously the guards have a clearer picture but the drip feeds is creating more and more questions.

I cannot understand why the mother is still in the uk and not here helping with the search and enquiries if she’s adamant she doesn’t know where he is or what happen Ed to him. It’s absolutely bizarre.

My child was removed from the register (POD) without having a new school to go to (was having difficulty and school refusing at the time).
We just got an email from the school to notify us.

So it happens.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0025ztf/spotlight-kyran-the-lost-boy

I just saw that a woman has been arrested in the East on suspicion of his murder, I wonder is it his mother or grandmother?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vrwdpre0wo

It is a woman in her 20's who was living abroad!

Sounds like it could be the mother, what a strange story.

It does sound like it's the mother.

Oh gosh it must be her. How evil if it is 😭

We can't watch that in Ireland. I wonder if there's another way.

It all adding up that it's the mother.😔

It has to be the mother. I hope they find his body. The poor pet.

Do you think that the school should have followed up on the fact that they were told that he was moving to a school in NI? I would love to know the protocol here as I'm from the Republic but live in NI. Because the border is so relaxed I can see how families could slip under the radar. Seems like she had the perfect plan to cover up her story. I wonder if it's something a school should flag and follow up and if they haven't it may go against them.

Two separate countries.

That would not the responsibility of the school, besides plenty of children would leave a school to move to another there wouldn't be the resources to check them all. I did it with my dc as I moved homes.

This is on Tusla, reaching out to SE in NI although I'm not sure if that would be legal due to GDPR.

Tusla are consistent with saying they were providing support and not involved. Not sure the difference tbh.

Tusla dropped the ball especially if the story about a different child being presented to a meeting and Tusla employee had no clue. However in saying that SE are overworked, burn out and a child could have several SW over a period. Without an updated picture of child, (a lot of files have no pictures of children) it would be simple enough to pull off.

Terrifying how simple it is to have an abused child slip through Tusla net.

I should not have wrote abused, there is no evidence of abuse but obviously some sort of issues for Tulsa to have any involvement.

I don't think so. People move all the time there is nothing odd or strange about it. My DC gp to a school next to a teaching hospital and children come and go.
I think unfortunately this is going to be a horrific and very very unusual case

Given officials from both Governments are meeting in relation to this I assume they see a need to establish some sort of information exchange. This has happened before, in the case of Kelly Fitzgerald where there was now supposed to be better communication between social services of both states, but the issue here is that TUSLA weren't aware he was supposed to have left the state. There obviously isn't a mechanism whereby schools check that a pupil has definitely registered elsewhere out of state (do they check if you claim you are moving within this state I wonder?)
I just don't understand how when TUSLA are involved with a family for any reason that it's not automatic to link in with the school?! It now seems like that only happens if the school report a concern, and if they d known that TUSLA were involved they could have at least flagged the 'move'.