Kyran Durnin - awful story.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2024/10/24/family-member-reported-kyran-durnin-missing-24-hours-after-tusla-alert/

This poor boy. The story just gets more and more upsetting.
There's so much wrong here, I really hope they find him/ his body so he can get some peace.

It's an awful story! We saw it on the news last night. So many failings.

Does anyone know if the mother is in custody for questioning? Like what is her explanation for her child missing for 2 years.

Have they even found the mother ? Wasn't she missing too ?
Fair enough, its an active investigation so I don't think all the details are out there

I think she was located in England. Haven’t heard anything about her since. Such a strange case.

This is one where the police must know a lot more than they are able to say. The facts will all come out and as always no doubt will fit roughly with what everybody is imagining. That poor wee boy.

This poor boy, I don't even want to consider what has happened to him and the thought that he may have been missing for 2 years and nobody reported him missing before then is just heartbreaking.

The reporting on the case has been some of the most bizarre I've seen. Obviously the Gardaí have reasons for keeping a lot of info to themselves. But I just wonder, where is the mother now? Was she brought back to Ireland? Is she being questioned? Is the maternal grandmother being questioned? She has stated she last saw them on Aug 28 at her home, but the Garda statements have said his last confirmed sighting is 2 years ago so they're obviously not believing her statements. Where was the father and the paternal family all this time? Where are her other 2 children? It's just mind boggling that something like this could happen.

Keep hoping it's some kind of misunderstanding, but it doesn't seem at all likely.

Tulsa is that social services? Sad sad story

How can a child in Ireland disappear for 2 years before it becomes a fact.?!

Unbelievable.

In my country home schooling is not allowed and if moving house, schools liaise with each other.

I don't know how children can disappear once they are in school because with the POD system you must have notification from the new school before they can be taken off the roll.

It's unbelievably sad. Poor little boy

I believe the school had been informed that he was moving to Northern Ireland. I wonder is there a jurisdiction thing to it? Would schools across the border share information? What is the POD system?

1 Island. Two countries.

Yes, they need to have a lot more cooperation.

Where I live, if moving you need to register at the local council within a week. With ID etc.

They were sleeping on the job, so sad.

It is shocking. Reminds me of the Noah Donoghue (sp?) case. Very very worrying.

But if there is no means of sharing information with schools in other countries in place, maybe the school weren't sleeping on the job? I really don't know how it works. For example, if I told my school I was moving DC to Spain, are they obliged to follow up and ensure he is enrolled in a school in Spain?

Why would it remind you of Noah's case? They're very different circumstances.

I'm just finding this case extremely confusing. Am I right in thinking that the little boy hasn't been seen since 2022 when he was 6 years old and he's only been reported missing August 2024 now 8 years old ?

The reporting is saying the mother was located in the UK and they have I'm assuming asked her where her child is ?

Who reported it ? The granny? Why wait 2 years? I'm just so confused as to why no one has said anything for 2 years.

It's so bizarre isn't it? The maternal grandmother, who apparently has her other 2 DC, 7 and 2, has stated she last say them on Aug 28 and a family member then reported them missing on Aug 30, a day after Tusla reported some concerns to the gardai, something the family apparently found out was going to happen. But the gardai are reporting no credible sightings since 2022, when he finished school. It really sounds like the maternal grandmother/family know something more.

I've heard talk that another young boy was taken to meetings and the mother lied and pretended it was her son. All hearsay tho.

Oh jesus it gets more strange. So granny has 2 of her other children and said she seen Kyran in the 2 years but only reported him missing after Tusla got involved this August .

What was the mother's reason for taking him out of school ?

The mother apparently told the school she was moving to Northern Ireland.

And yes, correct about the grandmother. Her name is Rhonda Byrne Tyson. Here's another article where she has apparently stated she saw them on August 28. www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kyran-durnins-mum-left-chilling-33902477.amp

This has been reported in the press so I think more than hearsay.

It's the most awful case. It looks like a major cover up by his family.

My heart goes out to Kyran who appears to have been failed by so many people.

Now they are saying he was listed as a guest in a B&B in May & June this year. How can that be? Were they passing off another kid as Kyron. The guards know way more than they are allowed to say.

I know, another bizarre update today. As @MadeForThis and @LarkspurLane mentioned, there have been reports that another boy was brought to meetings with Tusla so it's quite possible that this was the boy registered in the B&B.

The gardai obviously do have a whole heap of info they are not making public, totally understandable of course, it just makes the reporting so confusing.

The Garda commissioner has said that in 40 years this is the most complex and difficult to comprehend case he has ever come across.

Because if he's dead they are somehow at fault whether it be through neglect or somehow actually causing his death and she/they don't want to be charged I would assume.
His poor siblings, what we're they told about their big brother?
I'm confused why if school were told he moved North how or why TUSLA who were still involved with the family had checked in with the school they believed in was still attending over the 2 years. Wouldn't that be part of monitoring a child usually or was the fact his absence wasn't triggering the automatic 20 day missed reporting to TUSLA (because he wasn't even enrolled in the school) enough for them to go 'oh everything is fine in school'?

Utterly heartbreaking.

There is no cross border checks the school was advised he was leaving and would have taken him off the roll call under the assumption he was moving to another jurisdiction.

Why the school check another jurisdiction's record for Kyron, it is not in their remit?

DoE perhaps but not the school itself.

Tusla dropped the ball somewhere along the line and is yet again scrambling to cover up its mess.

It would not be exceptionally difficult to pass another child off as Kyron as SW burn out, are overloaded with cases and as I understand it the files may or may not have a picture of the child. New SW on case would not know the difference, a huge gap in meetings children grow and their facial features mature with time.

It appears to be that there is no external/impartial sighting of Kyron in 2yrs.

It also seems that there are no pictures of Kyron from the age of 6yrs old. That is very suspicious, no picture of his 7th , 8th birthday even just blowing out candles on cake.

Yes, Tusla are blaming the HSE cyber attack on loss of files on Kyron. It’s poor form that he didn’t have one dedicated case worker who would recognise him and know if another child was being used to impersonate him. Scandalous really.