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Sphe 'irish family'

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Orders76 · 04/09/2024 00:28

Has anyone seen the gript article that sphe books have Irish family v multi cultural...it's absolutely nuts if true

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MarieDeGournay · 10/09/2024 10:05

It was probably intended as a way of saying being Irish in 2024 is something different to what it had been in the past and that new immigrants and cultures should also consider themselves Irish.
But it was clumsily done and was extremely insulting and sneering of traditional Irish culture and traditions in favour of the more progressive multicultural family

I think you've got a point, Sunlightinclouds, the attitude that you have to 'look like you're Irish' to be Irish [e.g. the racist posts about our ParaOlympian Deaten Registe] needs to be tackled. My usual reply to that is two words:
PHIL LYNOTTSmile
The only positive I can take from this appalling imagery is that the outrage it provoked shows how awful it is to be reduced to stereotypes - in this case 'red-haired bacon-and-cabbage-eating small minded peasants'.

If even a fraction of people who indulge in reducing asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants to stereotypes like 'dangerous violent child-molesting raping scroungers' stop for a moment and think 'Maybe those stereotypes are as bad as the red-haired etc ones... maybe everybody is an individual..' some good will have come from this outrageous imagery.

Yes, I think staying away from any stereotypes altogether would be a good thing. The ironic thing is that some of the most tolerant people I know are the most steeped in Irish culture and would consider being curious and tolerant of other cultures as part of their identity.

In my opinion, activists of all sorts tend to be more narrow minded and love to categosise and judge human beings according to their own world view, mainly people who agree with them or not. I don't trust them in our education system as they seem to thrive more on division.

Sunlightinclouds · 22/09/2024 11:49

https://x.com/griptmedia/status/1837146672830284205?t=8TkJ6ObA_yuLlgsiatwPlA&s=19
An SPHE teacher speaks up about the curriculum. It's quite a long article but these parts stood out.

They present ‘gender ideology’ as scientific fact with scientific diagrams and explanations rather than as the belief system that it is. Sex is described as ‘assigned’ rather than a biological truth. Terminology such as cisgender, non-binary, genderqueer/fluid and pansexual which were all removed from the glossary for the final specification have been left in the books. Sexual acts such as masturbation, anal and oral sex, as sexually pleasurable experiences to be enjoyed alone and with others, are described graphically while an inclusive school is given the following narrow definition ‘a school where lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning young people, along with people of other identities and are valued and feel safe’.
Last May, following the release of the Cass report in England, I ventured to ask the following question on two Facebook groups of which I am a member as a SPHE teacher.
“The recently published Cass report reviewed children/teenage gender identity services in the UK and recommended a more cautious approach to social transitioning for gender distressed young people. What are teachers’ thoughts on this given that it is now part of the JC specification? Are there any concerns about the potential dangers of the gender affirming approach which are highlighted by Cass?”
My post was taken down, and when I posted the question a second time it was again removed and I was blocked from the group. What followed was a gaslighting attempt by a member of the group who also happens to be an author of a SPHE book!
She wrote in response to my query: (on the Cass Report) “Thankfully we are not the UK and have a much more inclusive and non-judgmental attitude to LGBTQ+ students”.

She (the author) also makes the point that most parents don't get to see the books as they are classroom based workbooks.

Another point she makes,
After some investigation, I discovered that the while the SPHE teachers page had been set up by a regular SPHE teacher with the intention of building collaboration among teachers, another book author who also happened to work for OIDE had requested to become admin on the page and had proceeded to report and block any ‘controversial’ post or questions.

AonFocal1 · 22/09/2024 13:15

Sunlightinclouds · 22/09/2024 11:49

https://x.com/griptmedia/status/1837146672830284205?t=8TkJ6ObA_yuLlgsiatwPlA&s=19
An SPHE teacher speaks up about the curriculum. It's quite a long article but these parts stood out.

They present ‘gender ideology’ as scientific fact with scientific diagrams and explanations rather than as the belief system that it is. Sex is described as ‘assigned’ rather than a biological truth. Terminology such as cisgender, non-binary, genderqueer/fluid and pansexual which were all removed from the glossary for the final specification have been left in the books. Sexual acts such as masturbation, anal and oral sex, as sexually pleasurable experiences to be enjoyed alone and with others, are described graphically while an inclusive school is given the following narrow definition ‘a school where lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning young people, along with people of other identities and are valued and feel safe’.
Last May, following the release of the Cass report in England, I ventured to ask the following question on two Facebook groups of which I am a member as a SPHE teacher.
“The recently published Cass report reviewed children/teenage gender identity services in the UK and recommended a more cautious approach to social transitioning for gender distressed young people. What are teachers’ thoughts on this given that it is now part of the JC specification? Are there any concerns about the potential dangers of the gender affirming approach which are highlighted by Cass?”
My post was taken down, and when I posted the question a second time it was again removed and I was blocked from the group. What followed was a gaslighting attempt by a member of the group who also happens to be an author of a SPHE book!
She wrote in response to my query: (on the Cass Report) “Thankfully we are not the UK and have a much more inclusive and non-judgmental attitude to LGBTQ+ students”.

She (the author) also makes the point that most parents don't get to see the books as they are classroom based workbooks.

Another point she makes,
After some investigation, I discovered that the while the SPHE teachers page had been set up by a regular SPHE teacher with the intention of building collaboration among teachers, another book author who also happened to work for OIDE had requested to become admin on the page and had proceeded to report and block any ‘controversial’ post or questions.

total and utter nonsense. How did these people manage to get so much power to pedal this rubbish as fact. Its a disgrace.

Lightfromtheoak · 22/09/2024 17:00

I have asked my DC to bring home their SPHE books so I can review them. I will be contacting the school if I'm not happy. I suggest everyone does the same.

Orders76 · 23/09/2024 00:06

I'm happy to just rip out pages lol

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