Dublin Stabbings

[honeyrider]

Five people stabbed including 3 young children near a school in Dublin today. I hope they'll be ok.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41275768.html

@Chickenkeev yes there is definitely a scheme to remove church patronage from schools. My DCs school was one chosen and the parents unanimously voted to retain religion in the school and so did the parents in at least two other local schools who were chosen to participate. I remember one school being on the news as they were the first and only school to opt out at that stage they were I think in Waterford or Wexford and I'm not sure how many others have followed.

And you're THAT poster. More than enough said.

@elgreco it's interesting .you said "oh I see mooshamoo is posting about her shit childhood again". On here

But I see what you posted on another thread.

There was a recent thread where an English woman posted that she had moved to Ireland, and that she found it extremely difficult to make any friends as Irish people are cliquey and suferficial with her.

You replied to her "it is hard to make friends in ireland last a certain age".

So it seems it is also your opinion that Ireland can be cliquey and unfriendly to foreigners.

That should say,

You replied to her "it is hard to make friends in Ireland last a certain age"

Omg. My phone's autocorrect is so mad.

That should say

"It is hard to make friends in Ireland PAST a certain age"

It has been hard for you to make friends, for whatever reason. Your experience is purely your own. Lots and lots of other people get on fine. I had a couple of Polish friends that flew in to surprise me for my wedding. They stayed with my mother, my brother collected them from the airport, and they surprised me at the venue.Their polishness was never a problem for them when they lived here. They made loads of friends here. So your experience is entirely your own. One single person's experience is not representative of the country as a whole.

Am I alone in finding the large amount of money being raised for the Brazilian Deliveroo driver who stepped in a bit...weird?

I mean, obviously sincere thanks and gratitude are appropriate, but usually these types of collections are for people in some type of need.
I know he didn't ask for this and has been very humble about accepting praise.
I'm just trying to think what I'd do in his position. I'd feel quite strange about accepting that sum of money in those circumstances...I think?

I feel the situation - and people - have been manipulated by the media who are extremely keen to paint him as a hero, in part or maybe even largely because he is foreign.
It's like "see, plebs, immigration is good!"
He was a hero undoubtedly, but there were others helping at the scene too and they're being ignored.

Or am I being completely mad and/or ungenerous? I'm not sure what to think really.

Youre ridiculous. You didn't even read what I said

I said that an English woman, (not me) came on to mumsnet recently and said that she finds it extremely hard to make any friends in Ireland. I can find her thread for you if you want.

I then said that the poster on this page (@elgreco) went onto that person's thread and said "yes it is very hard to make friends in Ireland past a certain age".

So why are you talking about me again

I apologise for picking you up wrong. It doesn't negate my basic point though.

@Chickenkeev the other thread is called "I cannot make friends in this town". In it , am English woman writes that she has moved from England to a town in Meath and that she cannot make any Irish friends, as the Irish women are extremely cliquey.

So no it's not just me that experiences being left out/ not being able to make Irish friends in Ireland. As you so nastily said.

I have lots of friends in Ireland actually , but the vast majority of them are not Irish.

I would like more Irish friends in Ireland but if I go to a meetup group for example and meet lots of people - the foreign people will want to be friendly and socialise.
And will want to meet again. But I find the the Irish people very hard to break into being friends with them, they are very hard to get to know, they just kind of want to stick to their own school friends, thats just how it is.

I thought it was a bit odd too. It's good for him though.

But that is you and one other person. It is in no way representative. Like i said, you have your experience, and i am sorry it's been a bad one, but it's your experience and certainly doesn't apply to all immigrants to the country.

Lol. Tone deaf.
You do realise that you are writing that in a thread about riots in Dublin? Yes?

You do realise that the riots were Irish people rioting against immigrants. The Irish peol were saying that they didn't want immigrants here and they wanted them to leave

Oh stop with your defensiveness. It's boring and tone deaf. We all know that there is a lot of racism in ireland and that a lot of immigrants are treated badly in Ireland. It's fact.

I know lots of Irish people who say that. They will say that a lot immigrants are treated badly in Ireland.

It's fact. Grow up. You are a literally on a thread which is about Irish people rioting and protesting against immigrants. And yet you say that most immigrants are treated really nicely. Ludicrous

This thread is about the Dublin stabbings and the aftermath. After the Dublin stabbings there was a huge riot in Dublin, where a large mob of Irish people said that they did not want immigrants in ireland.

Yet chicken keep still comes on this thread and says that immigrants are treated really well in Ireland.

The level of defensiveness and blindness is unreal.

*chickenkeev

@Mooshamoo no, i didn't say that. I can't speak for experiences that aren't my own. My experiences of immigrants into Ireland have been very, very positive. And quite wide ranging. Your obsession with running the country down however, is tiresome at this stage. And particularly strange that you come on the Irish thread to do it. What exactly is it that you want people to say?

Oh my god. Go back and read.

I am not the first person in this thread to say that there is racism in Ireland.

Many many other people on this thread said that there is racism in Ireland before I did.

Why are you saying that I am running down the country. Why didn't you say to them that they are running down the country.

You said what do you want people to say. I don't want people to say anything.

I simply agreed with the many many other people on this thread who said that there is was a lack of diversity/racism in Ireland.

I'm allowed to contribute. You also said it's particularly strange that I come on an Irish thread to do it. Eh? I live in ireland . Of course i come on the Irish threads.

Why don't you reply to some of the many other people on this thread who said that there is racism in Ireland. And leave me alone. I don't want to talk to you again.

I don't want to talk to you either tbh. I think i have been repectful in my responses, you just disagree with them. So i'll leave it there.

Some more detail on the attacker this morning.

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/latest-dublin-stabbing-suspect-had-row-over-social-welfare-payments/a1160160988.html

And an article on a brave French lad who helped disarm the attacker at the scene.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/french-president-congratulates-hero-intern-who-disarmed-dublin-city-knife-suspect-it-makes-us-all-proud/a532772609.html

Wow, it says his welfare was reduced, not stopped, so either, he had means and an overpayment arose, or he did not attend an activation meeting (meeting to support job seekers finding work) several failures to attend an activation meeting can result in a penalty being applied to the payment.

Some poor sod at the activation in parnell Square now has this decision (which they would have had no choice in) to haunt them.

I hope that young lad gets an award from Michael D.

Yes @Theblacksheepandme I know what you mean , ignorance abounds on morality and religion. Although we are dealing with children here. My lads' little friend wouldn't believe their sister had a different dad to them. ' He isn't married to yeer mammy!' was his reply.

English children have their own preconceptions. I did secco in England and remember a girl saying Catholics are bad people - they get up to mischief and then just go to Confession. Oh and they worship statues. But ....they didn't lick it off the walls in either country I suppose.

This always gives me a giggle. It doesn't show the very end but in the end it showed that the similarity was their annoying parents.