Dublin Stabbings

[honeyrider]

Five people stabbed including 3 young children near a school in Dublin today. I hope they'll be ok.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41275768.html

Loulou, the Celtic Tiger brought massive change.
The Polish community, which is the biggest non-national population in Ireland, are second generation now & well established all over the country. They came here for building jobs, and are an good example of how things can work.

The problem now is that non-whites are obviously much bigger targets for racism, obviously. And that while huge amounts of people from countries all over the world are coming here to work & study… (like the Deliveroo guy) there’s plenty of non-nationals on the streets too. It’s a problem.

Sorry if non-white is not a good word.
Most racist reaction is to skin colour.

I wasn't out robbing high en runners but I was extremely annoyed with Leo's speech. No acknowledgement that people are wondering where immigrants will live and who funds it all. The poles integrated. I notice the Brazilian was branded Italian so he was here on an Italian passport, so, no need for IRP status. But that is another issue, what percentage of the millions of Brazilians with one Italian grandparent can do the same. What about warehousefuls of Syrians, hmmm that seems like trouble down the line. Leo doesn't think we can learn anything from France, Sweden, Denmark or Britain. It's all about appearances. All about what other countries think. This is not who we are world!! But he doesn't care what Irish people worry about. Michael Martin is the same.

Typically rubbish BBC article which suggests that anyone who has concerns about immigration is far right

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67523846

Out of interest, what do you think we can learn from the UK? I mention UK as they are our neighbours.

The reporting is trying very hard on this angle

I think some know the mess they created and we’ll see this increase in dishonesty around it

@Gowlett
Yes that's exactly my point. I was responding to claims that multiculturalism was very new to Ireland by saying the celtic tiger was decades ago

This riot has given the govt the opportunity to fast forward public order legislation and the HM beloved hate speech bill although she actually cant define hate. Talk about public control.no one can criticise the leaders or allowed to protest soon
.what a country. What an awful state of affairs
Everyone is now far right who is concerned regarding the open door free for all..
Irish culture is under attack by our own govt. Its so upsetting to see.H M surely is up for a massive eu job as a Thank you.
Honestly our democracy is going ireland the experimental poster good boy of europe
Did any see the non reporting of the criticism aisling murphy s boyfriend had to say about josef puska living here 10 yrs and contributed zero to ireland. Not reported on MSM . Tg for Gript
Hele mcentee has to go. Her hate speech bill is pure control. What the absolute F

Hopefully they will be able to clean up Dublin after this, it has been brewing for years. It is so dangerous and an absolute disgrace.

Most of western Europe is multicultural these days. Why would Ireland be any different?

Yeah, down with Hate Speech Bill's.

The continued silence from the Garda and Irish MSM about the name, background and possible motive of the attacker is astonishing. And Ireland thinks it no longer lives under the censor?

The more the media repress the angrier people will get

Gript is a load of absolute misogynistic bollocks. You really need to look at yourself if that's your main source of news. You make some interesting points that are worth consideration, but ditch Gript.

Is there any update?
Why is there such a hush, was it a completely random attack? The poor little child, I hope she survives.

All the politicians that created this mess, not just in Dublin, but across so many countries as we’re seeing now

And the media that will attempt to cover that mess up
will be going into overdrive from now on

They caused this friction and won’t like it being reflected back

I emailed a representative of government in our constituency last year about crime in Dublin.
I got the usual platitudes in reply.
Nothing changed.
It got worse.
And they'll wonder why they lost the next election.

If you want to trade with the world, you do give up some sovereignty. That’s the way things are.

uk doing trade deal with India and one of the conditions for India is that they want more visas issued.

EU has its own trade agreements. And internally there is freedom of movement, of course.

I don’t think you can wind back back globalisation.

I pray the stab victims improve and get all the emotional support they need.

€45 million for a new Government jet and yet the Gardai have been underfunded for years.

And yet people want to blame foreign nationals for draining the system. This is exactly what we should be angry about.

But what can they do with all the drug addicts?
It’s absolutely the worst city I have ever witnessed for drugs and people openly injecting drugs on the streets even in daylight.

How can things ever improve and be safe when Dublin has more drug addicts than non drug addicts there, and they are like Zombies in world war Z all over the city.

I imagine tackling current drug use is difficult, although better treatment and accommodation options could only help.

They need to throw money at the problem of future generations. The social deprivation in some areas is ridiculous in such a wealthy country. Throw money at the housing crisis, at schools, at youth facilities in deprived areas, at treatment facilities. The groundwork would pay off but probably difficult politically unfortunately.

It doesn't for a second excuse the racist scum bags, but actually that is a really short timescale for such massive social change.

I'm not quite 40 and there were three non white kids in my whole primary school of about 300 pupils. Not many more at secondary. Not many white kids with other heritage either, maybe the occasional English parent but certainly no one from, for example, Poland.

The change in demographics has been rapid, and I think that's a good thing, diversity does us good and despite the horrific headlines I think most have welcomed that change. I adore the phrase "the new Irish" and I think it's the perfect way to acknowledge what immigrants bring to our society as they become Irish but retain their own original culture too.

But it's not realistic to expect that level of change over such a short timescale to be without issues. I think, hope, Ireland can tackle them.

A bit of hyperbole there! Yes there are certainly pockets where it's fairly grim and they are probably more so in the inner city proximate to tourism and business zones than might be the norm....but more drug addicts than non drug addicts? World War Z? Come on

Big tranches of social housing flats are concentrated in the North Inner City (where the stabbings happened). In anyone's language they would otherwise be prime real estate. A few metres from the City Centre, beside the Financial District, etc. etc.

Social housing is needed, however there is an awful lot of it in that area and due to the drug problem, a lot of drug treatment centres are also concentrated around there. Hence a constant presence of strung out addicts, dealers and users around the place, and the inevitable consequences of that for the city. I'm not saying everyone in social housing within the city should be evicted, but I do think that the drug treatment facilities could be moved a bit further out. But then again to where? Very few welcome such centres in their areas. A perennial problem.

Visible effective policing has been missing from NIC Dublin for many years. Take a walk from Parnell Square to Stephen's Green and you will rarely see cops on the beat. In fact it is bizarre how the Garda on street presence has disappeared. The Gardai will say that they are policing via CCTV in the stations, but that is REACTIVE policing, the trouble should be identified and dealt with on the ground before it has a chance to escalate, like on Thursday night. ACTIVE policing is vital, and I just don't understand why it doesn't happen. The Gardai will say it is a resource issue, but there is no problem policing the Dail (Parliament), or big Rugby/Football matches and Covid restrictions when they were a feature.

The neglect of Dublin City has been a feature for years, the natives, visitors, workers, businesses have been beating this drum for years, but no one listened.

This will hopefully wake them all up. Law and Order will be top of the agenda for them all now. That is a good thing.