Unlocking Ireland - an unprecedented thread no. 6

[CherryValanc]

A sixth thread in Craicnet!!

Who thought that would ever happen!!? Has there even been a sixth page before?

I really struggle with who to vote for tbh. I know who would be top of my ballot (one TD in my area who I like) and who would sit at the bottom (general nutjobs and the one TD in my area who I can't stand). It's the 2nd, 3rd, 4th preferences that I don't know how to assign. It shouldn't be too hard to find someone who won't screw over the young generations, will deal with the housing crisis, will put money into education and is pro abortion/LGBT etc rights. On paper, a lot of politicians are that. And yet here I am, struggling every time...

In other news, there was a birthday party after school today. Surprised at who went, and the number of them. Coming from two different schools too. House is in the countryside.

Oh yes, Monday morning news was very illuminating this week. Quite a few family parties and playdates going on. People hugging in the carpark on the first day back.

Ah well. If schools close again I hope they don't dare complain to me...

@IsFuzzyBeagMise

No worries Life. He's in my constituency, so I like to keep an eye on him I have never voted for him as I have a complete aversion to FF.

And me ! Cork South Central does Craicnet T-shirt’s would fly off the shelves in Douglas Court 😀

Problem is that numbers are static and vaccines at snail pace. Hard to know who is telling the truth. Mothers day and patricks day not in the equation yet. There are cases in schools no matter what they say. Think i will go with social Democrats next time. I would love to see slainte care rolled out. I think the big party days are over. Sinn fein have blown it.

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I wonder will breaking of these particular laws lead to breaking lots of other ones people don't like?

I often think people not paying tax etc is a throw back to when not paying tax was getting one over the British, rather than robbing from your fellow citizens. Is there a kind of inherited tendency to ignore/break the law?

I'm not articulating myself very well.

The wee green girl seemed a good candidate here, but she quit the Greens. A lot of people have.
Hollie Thing the social Democrat in West Cork seems to be working hard.
I had a lot of emailing with the Sinn fein man a few years ago when the morning bus to cit was removed. It was direct, and fast. The replacement went via ucc and was over full and slow. He wasn't bothered.
All the others say hello to me in shops, although mm hangs out in Douglas. I have never seen the sinn fein man here, even at election time, and have never seen his office open. He might be excellent, but he is invisible.

I read or heard that massive insurance payouts date back to big English insurance companies having to stump up. Now we get charged more by multinational insurance places.

We had an anti social behaviour problem here a few years ago. Duly contacted our 5 TDs. At the time I think it was one SF and two each FF FG. One (FG) got back to us immediately and made a few calls for us. SF were told when they came a calling that they hadn't bothered and it was all oh we didn't get the email, what email did to send it to, we don't check such and such an address as it's an old one. Very defensive.

One FF got back to us when it was coming up to election time and the problem had been long resolved, so about 3 years too late. They were told too.

You'd think people don't want your vote.

@eggandonion

I can imagine Micheal is more of a goody two shoes who tutted a lot about the bold boys, but went to the tent to keep an eye on them. My dh was at a ff mens dinner once, where Bertie was guest of honour. Dh was there because someone bought him a ticket, but anyway mrs Martin was the only lady there. She is the power behind the throne apparently. I like Centra in Crosshaven, and the cafe across from it. Dream day out!

There was a skit on the Vincent Browne show a few years ago where they portrayed MM as an altar boy. It was funny.

@Apileofballyhoo

I wonder will breaking of these particular laws lead to breaking lots of other ones people don't like?

I often think people not paying tax etc is a throw back to when not paying tax was getting one over the British, rather than robbing from your fellow citizens. Is there a kind of inherited tendency to ignore/break the law?

I'm not articulating myself very well.

I think there's some truth in that, especially if you add in the fact that one of the big differences between how Covid restrictions manifested themselves in Ireland and England was the fact that in England there was a lot of reporting people, neighbours informing on one another, the use of hotlines to report breaches, and a fair bit of community mini-Hitlering, based on stories from friends in the village we used to live in and other friends elsewhere.

Like a friend of a friend in Oxford, a medic who was actually working in a Covid ward, went out for a run to decompress after work, and discovered when she got home a note from her previously amiable next door neighbours saying they had timed her, and she'd been out exercising longer than she was allowed and they were going to report her! (No evidence that they did, but she was hugely taken aback, as there had never been any conflict...)

And apparently some of the the parish council of our old village were out on the street in hi-vis and whistles in the first lockdown, policing how much people were going out!

I didn't see that here, or certainly not to anywhere near the same extent. 'Informing' has a different charge here, I think...?

My daughter reported a load of teenagers who were drinking in a local haunt. We could hear them about six o'clock, they were still there after coronation street, so nine. She was out walking and rang the guards who came quickly with sirens, so the kids scattered.
Surely their parents would smell the drink? (Speaking as a parent who has seen and heard it all before).
Guards were driving round a lot last May and June when we had the dog out, we could hear the garden gatherings but they couldn't.

Surely their parents know they're not hanging around by themselves outside for hours, so maybe don't care about drink either?

Apileofballyhoo ".......I often think people not paying tax (etc) was getting one over the British......"

I agree. We aren't a law abiding people and I do think that has something to do with our history, with the fact we were ruled ( often cruelly ) by a colonial power for 700 years. If we could get away with things we did them.
Mostly we didn't rat on our neighbours either.
Remember the Ansbacher bank off shore accounts people had so they could avoid paying tax.
Minister for Education Norma Foley's father, Denis, a TD at the time had one but as he said he was "hoping against hope" it wasn't an Ansbacher account.
Charlie Haughey had one too as did other prominent business people.

My daughter was pissed off because she was and is still working from home, with me asking her where she's going and when will she be back! But there are about 100 households closer to where he partying was happening than we are, so 100 adults must also have heard it.
And if the guards would go for a walk, they'd hear and see more too.

Can anybody clarify what is the position on visiting elderly parents who have had both vaccines?
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My parents are due to receive their second jab tomorrow and I'm wondering how safe it would be to visit them ( this is all in my head- they are outside my 5km but would love to see them sometime sooner rather than later)
But as I and my children won't be vaccinated for some time yet are we safe to visit?
I'm so so wary of bringing anything to their door ..

I don't know half, I would've thought you can't go till the current restrictions are lifted anyway in terms of visiting other households and whatever else. I think there is a time period after receiving the second vaccine where it hasn't taken full effect but I don't know how long that's for.

Heard today that birthday party had 25 kids at it. You know, whatever, not my monkeys etc., but I'm fairly shocked at parents I know quite well who were definitely going by all the rules having apparently a) thrown caution to the wind and b) completely disregarded the law. I feel really weird, like I'm the anomaly.

Oh sorry, half, I meant to say I saw Dr Fauci on CBS or NBC or someplace answering questions and someone asked could their DM come for a visit if she was fully vaccinated and they weren't, and he said yes as long as you and your kids aren't
vulnerable as she could still pass it to you.

I thought both parties needed both jabs to be allowed to visit, according to Dr Mike at the WHO. But that could be old news!

Dunno egg that certainly sounds safer. Maybe the powers that be will issue some kind of guidance. Seeing as none of us are allowed visit anyone else atm it's probably not on the to do list.

that's in the USA though not Ireland.

@Carriemac

that's in the USA though not Ireland.

Dr F? Yeah. Sorry, was only me musing on what guidelines might be for Ireland eventually.

My daughter has one jab, mother in law has had two. So she will be able to visit Granny at some point.
Stupid figures again today, and the death results are still January and February as much as March.

Yes. Crikey almighty. High numbers again. My in-laws in their eighties have had their jabs, which I'm very grateful for. My mother (71) is waiting for her first one, soon hopefully.

I don't know enough to say, halfpasteleven. I'm not sure about the transmissibility aspect, that they could pass it to you. Hopefully that will be made clear soon.

Those numbers are shocking egg.

Thanks to you all for the replies..
Mam will ask the nurse who is administering the vaccine tomorrow and we will go from there.

The numbers are steadily rising week on week from what I could gather on the Six