To want to leave the UK

[vickisponge98]

Am I the only one that wants to leave this country? My salary hasn’t increased more than 1% per year in the last 7 years… I hate that the UK voted Brexit… I read today the financial shocks of the autumn budget are worse than the 2008 crash?! Why aren’t we more angry?!!

DuchessOfDisco, not sure where you bought a happy meal for $10.00 but they run around $5.00 to $6.00 in the US.

However, give it a go but plenty of expats who swear they couldn't bear the UK any longer go back.

People always come up with this on MN and make it sound as though the majority who leave return. However, I live in a country where many people have moved to from the UK, and most of the people I know have been here for many years and show no inclination to go back.

Come the GE, people can vote accordingly

If Labour do get into power, I don’t think prices will drop but stay at current prices and will become the new normal 😳😔

But in the UK the price of corn on the cob is the same all year round - it never fluctuated.

It seems to me that you have been spoilt with low food prices. What is so wrong with eating seasonal fruit and vegetables? They are so much more enjoyable when you can only get them at certain times of the year - you look forward to them - and if you really can't go without corn on the cob (or anything else) when it's out of season buy frozen.

What is so wrong with eating seasonal fruit and vegetables?

I like apples all year round, though.

Most people stay, of the maybe 15 couples i know who have emigrated, only one man came back & that was almost immediately, turned out his wife was having an affair with someone they both met when they went to check the place out :(
My BiL went to Aus with his parents and stayed, that was over 20 years ago, he came back recently for a planned 4 week holiday, after 2 weeks he was flew back early, he'd had enough.

@Halloweenbiscuits
Sorry, I know this is a serious thread, but I love that, it's so deadpan, droll, and funny! 😂

Not really, the people leaving are the very best we have, they aren't on Benefits.

@user12345678213
I was just commenting that, on a serious thread. I found @Halloweenbiscuits's brief, innocent, inoffensive post really amusing.
Is that not allowed?.......🙄

I don't care what you say or write but i doubt very much the "Bye then" was meant in any shape or form as innocent or inoffensive.

Its what some people genuinely think, that is if they are capable of rational thought, its not funny at all.

Many of the nations best are leaving for pastures new, leaving the rest of us with what exactly?

Because its certainly not enough skilled medics is it.

@user12345678213
Ok........this is now becoming quite ridiculously tiresome 🙄
You keep putting your own spin on my light-hearted comment if it turns you on, but I'm out 😐

@LindyLou2020 you're right, I was just being lighthearted and joking around. No offence or sinister motive intended

Thank You! 😊

Are you actually comparing Sydney with any old random place in the UK for affordability??

London is expensive, so is Sydney.

I live in Melbourne. Also bloody expensive. But my salary is high and dh has doubled from his London salary. We are paid much better in Aus.

The cost of living is out of control worldwide. But the smart thing to do is vote in a government who gives a fuck. The UK's love of the Tory party with it's continual fuck ups and totally inept PMs just has people going WTAF.

And if you can't see Brexit has definitely contributed to the UK shitshow then, then there's really no help for you.

@MarshaMelrose
So its got nothing to do with the media
I disagree. Our newspapers stir everything up with outrageous headlines that make people scared and worried. Hence the national grid say that they see stocks lasting through the winter but are preparing for the worst case scenario, not envisaged to happen, of power cuts. Cue massive headlines, power cuts will happen this winter! It gives people a false perspective of what is happening

Actually, its looks like i may have been wrong - there was a rumour that the UK would seek a Swiss style SM deal with EU - todays papers are full of "Dont betray us on Brexit..." Bullshit.

Very sad.

However, true leaders would lead and do the best for the nation, which is SM and a closer relationship with EU, not least on security and policing, ignoring the howls from the right wing press.

I’ve lived in several places- the U.K., Aus and a couple of countries in Europe. I had a good lifestyle, interesting work and great friends in all of them. I honestly think it’s a case of attitude. It’s perfectly possible to have a happy life in the U.K. Too many people blame external factors for their unhappiness when they should be looking closer to home.

I have thought of leaving the country too OP, life here is getting miserable. However the only place I could move to is Canada - and things are similar over there (interest rates, high cost of food and getting higher etc). And they don't have Brexit, so there must be wider causes of these developments. So I muddle on here....

I'd to move too but with kids at various stages in the education system we feel trapped.

For all those saying this is a global event, yes you're right but have a listen to The Newsagents podcast from Friday night which explains why it feels so much worse here.

Basically it is hitting us harder because inequality is so much worse here. Our European Counterparts have started from a better place where lower and middle income earners are significantly better off than us because the inequality gap is so much less.

It also reports that we appear to have the worst of all worlds - the high taxation of the scandi countries but with poor public services.

Poland is due to overtake us in GDP by 2030. This country has been run into the ground.

Not much better in the states! My friend paid $4 for a gallon of milk, Eggs are $6 a dozen, and rent is usually 500-800 with nothing included!

I’ve also thought about Canada, and you’re exactly right with what you’re saying about the cost of things, however, looking at jobs on offer around where we would like to settle (Alberta), my husband would get well over double than what he does here so I think that would certainly make up for the cost of living being similar. However, it might not be the same case in other fields of work perhaps.

12 free run eggs are now $7 here in Canada (£4.34) English food prices are ridiculously cheap in comparison. But, I would say that salaries are typically higher here.

@Mrstwiddle

they pay less tax in Canada too right? I know it might differ between the different provinces but from what I’ve researched with Alberta that it’s less than the UK.

It varies quite a bit by province.
Alberta: 10-15% depending on income
BC: 5% - 20%
Ontario: 5 - 13% (top rate at C$220K)
Quebec: 5 - 25.75% - and their top rate threshold is only C$109K. (However there's a partial abatement of federal tax, of 16.5%--but still very expensive)

That's on top of federal income tax. A calculator could give you a rough estimate of your net.

@Gem123J Yes, Alberta is where you want to go for lower taxes, unfortunately there’s not a huge amount else to recommend it as somewhere to live. I’m in BC and I’m not sure that I pay much less tax when I was in the UK.

@Mrstwiddle

Thanks for the reply. I like what Alberta has to offer “outdoors” wise. As well as seeing that my husband would get quite a hefty salary if he was to find a similar job there to what he does here, so it has been quite appealing!

I’ve also managed to get in touch with someone who is Welsh and lives in Edmonton, and he has said there is quite a big Welsh speaking community there, and I’m a Welsh speaker, and he said they tend to meet up for football or rugby games, which is lovely to know! So at least we could be moving with potential connections already!

I am currently pregnant and in the middle of a degree so we won’t be thinking of moving for at least another year, but my husband and I are over our 30’s so we can’t be too hasty since I know we’ll lose points for every year after 35.

Can I ask what was it that made you decide on BC? Do you think I should do a bit more research into other areas?