To want to leave the UK

[vickisponge98]

Am I the only one that wants to leave this country? My salary hasn’t increased more than 1% per year in the last 7 years… I hate that the UK voted Brexit… I read today the financial shocks of the autumn budget are worse than the 2008 crash?! Why aren’t we more angry?!!

The OP is asking if she should move country. Fucking Fruit Pastilles quadrupling in price doesn't make anyone emigrate. Food and housing becoming unaffordable DOES. Ask any diaspora. Including the two I am a member of!

It's the SQUIRRELS of economic discussion. Maybe Tory bots have been programmed to talk about caulis every time anyone suggests Brexit is a shit idea for affordable food.

I paid 4.29 Canadian yesterday for my head of red lettuce (about 2.70gbp). Too expensive, but hardly ten bucks! Meat has been more expensive for a few months, definitely. I think the thing is that inflation and the cost of living is slowly going away in most places, but the effects of Brexit will be with you for a long, long time.

Not my experience at all. Diagnosed with breast cancer in routine screening 14 months ago and they have been fantastic. Calm, professional, quick to respond.

I was recalled in two days, met the surgeon after 10 days, surgery within three weeks. I've had surgery, chemo, radiotherapy, MRI, CT scans, All initial treatment finished by end of March. Have just completed all my one year checks to schedule. six monthly infusions are now routine and to schedule.

My experience is the NHS is fabulous!

Try looking at the global picture. It’s not just the UK

We know this, but the UK is doing worse than many other countries.

I bought a cauliflower in Auckland 3 days ago for $3.
Much depends on season and we feel the impact of severe weather on crops.

Exactly. Anyone who buys a cauliflower when they are $10 is either wealthy or a fool!

ICanada is ridiculously expensive at moment too- lettuce currently at around $10 dollars a head!!

In Nunavut?!?!?! Because I just looked on Walmart in Canada and lettuce isn't $10. Maybe $5. It's worth saying that in a country mostly blanketed with snow at this time of year, maybe spinach or kale is a better choice.

All the best @MintJulia

I’ve been increasingly angry for the last six years. I hate the damage the Tories have done to the UK. That being said I’ve lived in 3 other countries and am always homesick when I’m not here. It took me 15 years to get back, so don’t want to uproot again. It is so beautiful here. If only we had a different, more compassionate government.

Bloody hell, that’s crazy price for lettuce!

Ozz - I can understand the sentiment of wanting to get away from it all. But I really don’t think it’s much better anywhere else.

Can you give a bit more info re what you want to get away from? As maybe others can then give some flavour as to how things aren’t (or are) better elsewhere.

Bloody hell, that’s crazy price for lettuce!

It would be. If it was the price of a lettuce. A quick Google suggests it's not.

Come to Ireland, you'd collapse at the price of living. It's far more expensive than the UK, always had been and everything has gone up recently. When my dh moved here he used to ring me from the supermarket in shock at how much things were. Rents , transport , food, clothes and we don't have free gps , it's upwards from 60 euro to see a gp and then meds are capped at 80 euro not 9 pounds. Our health system is archaic, some specialities have wait lists of 3, 4, 5 years.

@vickisponge98

with out a shadow of a doubt Brexit has really hurt the uk economy ( despite the brexiteers giving lame other examples) and yes your right to live in the EU was stolen by the lies.

I can't wait to rejoin where we will loose the puns in time.

JRM and the Brexit bullshitters are a disgrace

A quick google shows a number of articles that show the price has shot up. Maybe not as much as pp stated, but still a fair amount higher than here.

@romdowa salaries are higher in Ireland I thought & child benefit is much more generous.

I think this holds truth my Australian collegue said she was shocked at how cheaply she could buy a block of cheese!

I agree with you, I had saved a deposit and worked very hard to complete my degree and achieve a role on 30k+ the day before my first viewing truss destroyed the market and the closest offer I can get now barely covers a flat in the worst area of my northern city. I decided to no longer buy here and I will look to hit 2.5/3 years with my company and complete my stem masters at my Russell group before moving. I'm 8 months in with my analyst/coordinator role, have researched everything surrounding moving over the last few years, have family in every place I am considering (sydney australia, Auckland New Zealand, Dubai, New york, Orlando). I have researched visa's and with a masters in stem would easily and quickly get approved (especially having a dual passport) and instead of moving like my friends with barely a degree and no experience, I will have 5 years + in project/analyst, masters, other quals etc. The offers available already are impressive, 3 months housing, better salaries, car, multi return flights, health.

I completely agree with this. I now live in another European country and the food here is so much more expensive than the UK. I often stock up on food and hygiene articles when visiting family as it saves me a fortune.

Lucky you, my close friend was ignored for years before dying on the operating table after the extent of her tumour, she was only young. My aunt was treated appallingly during the pandemic during her heart op and died due to again negligence, my sister who is only a teenager is currently in due to neuro complications and the dr's conducted a procedure incorrectly impacting on nerves and leaving her unable to urinate on her own. She is in intense pain after their failings, and they have only made the situation worse. Instead of condescending towards others and dismissing their awful and unnecessary experiences by sharing your own rare experience, which is evidently warped of judgment, think before you respond.
PS. I have been waiting 3 years to have my implant removed after experiencing adverse effects, the NHS still haven't completed that. I am hard of hearing due to birth and other complications and recently tried to get into the GP for 2 weeks straight for help after bleeding from my ear and experiencing pain. The NHS is FAILING.

@marblemad good luck getting on the property ladder in Sydney or Auckland! House prices there make the U.K. look positively affordable

IMO one of the biggest problems with the U.K. is the negative mentality. There were plenty of threads like this on Mumsnet long before Brexit - little wonder Australians and New Zealanders refer to ‘whinging Poms’

Even those who do emigrate presumably take their negative mindsets with them and will never be content.

In comparison to job opportunities and my current prospective offers, the lifestyle is much more affordable over there. My cousin has just bought a lovely 2 bed apartment over there and is a junior social worker.

Go for it. Don’t just whinge make plans.

I don't understand all these threads. If you want to leave then leave.

What is actually stopping you?

Salaries are no longer much higher minimum wage in Ireland is 10.50 , in the UK its 10.18. Which is roughly 9. 14 pounds. So it's a pound in the difference. Child benefit is 140 euro which is a bit higher but not by much and because everything costs so much , it doesn't go far. Primark and tescos here for example charge far more even with the exchange rate. Rents are more , food is more. Health care isn't free like the UK. Cars , tax and insurance is more. Its still far cheaper in the UK

@romdowa ln Irleand how much are your rents for council/Housing association properties on average? Do people receive 140 for every child after the first? In England you only get £80 odd for the first child and then around £50 odd for any other kids.