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Amble into April Frugaleering

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Unescorted · 17/04/2022 08:15

Follow on from the old thread

This is a space / long running thread for people wanting tips on making life cheaper for what ever reason and support who have to make living less expensive. If you are new here just post away everyone is welcome.

Frugal tips from the hive mind so far....

Check your outgoing-are they essential, are you on the best deal
Loyalty cards for stores you regularly shop at
Meal plan
Annual budget rather than monthly for those, well annual, expenses
Second hand is fine for 90% of stuff
Sign up to money saving expert emails
Insulation at home.
Close curtains at dark and tuck behind rads
Foil behind external wall rad
Turn the heating down . Tropical houses are not necessary
Use the washing line when you can
Look out for food recycling scheme- bread and butter thing, company shop, too good to go type things
Do you have to buy that Christmas/ birthday present. Can you give time instead
Eat less meat (tho I’m rubbish at this)
Have a on toast day. Or baked potato weekly
Double up while the oven is on for a reheat meal or a bake. Save electric running the oven less.
Branded goods are not always the best
-Walk those short trips if possible, instead of using the car (I am the worst for doing this). Saves petrol, good exercise too.
-Combine car trips better too eg dropped DD off at an activity tonight, which is next to the supermarket.
Cancel sky, if you still want the programmes switch to Now Tv for a fraction of the price
Cancel any subscriptions you don't need. Check direct debits to make sure you're not paying for anything you no longer need by accident
Check all your bills, insurances etc are the cheapest you can get for the cover you need (the last bit is important)
If you can get a voucher, use a cash back site or have some sort of work discount (nhs, bluelight, Tesco, student etc) check before paying
Meal plan before you shop. Make extra to freeze for another day as it's often cheaper per kg to buy bigger packs of meat
Go veggie a couple of times a week
Aldi and Lidl are great but not if you're going to get sidetracked by the aisle of doom
An annual budget is essential but pay yourself first each month so money into the annual pot, into savings, off debt before anything else happens. Make sure there's a line in your budget for fun money even if it's a tiny amount, budgeting can be a grind otherwise
You will have patches of spendiness and demotivation, don't give up just start again from wherever you end up
Take your own drinks, snacks, food, picnic - Invariably cheaper and nicer
Make your own if you have a stocked baking cupboard and spice cupboard. Cheaper and nicer, tho building said cupboard can be ££ (costs can be reduced by a visit to your local international supermarket)
Aldi for baking stuff it’s fine.
Work out of season for clothes as it’s usually cheaper
i switched to a coffee subscription (coffee is my weakness) - so our local shop delivers me a 250g bag of ground coffee every 2 weeks (i have 4 in the cupboard currently) and i make my own morning coffee. the subscription is for 6 months and costs me £58 i think. a takeaway from the same shop is £2.80 a pop. so it is a money saver. I bought a Contigo cup (spendy but worth every penny). so take my coffee hot to work with me.

I'm also a fan of using it up. so tings like toiletries, stationary (i am also a notebook hoarder) food etc. not replacing until it's all gone (or all of one thing gone).

my Lloyds account does "save the change" so it rounds up a purchase and then moves the pence to my savings account.

I also pay myself first on payday and am trying to use the things we have- zoo membership - use it loads so worth the £160 a year cost. same with my gym membership i use it so get my moneys worth.

Also what you can save/be frugal on can be inversely related to your means. If you have more "spare" money per month it's easier to buy in bulk and choose things that are cheapest per kg. If you have less or no spare money this isn't possible to do and then you're looking at cheapest price per item rather than per kg.

Agree re taking own stuff although I do often forget but a good coffee cup and water bottle is a good investment if you can afford it

If you have a dog use something like all about dog food to work out what the best food is you can buy based on what you can afford to spend per day
I also give the clothes an extra spin in the washing machine before they go in the dryer, and dry outside whenever i can - currently not living at home, so limited to a washer dryer (which is crap) and an airer next to a rad which i hate.

im a big fan of using the freezer and freeze anything i can. we buy reduced items (like bread and keep it in the freezer as it saves it going off - we maybe get through a loaf every couple of weeks).
I know that credit cards are sometimes seen here as the work of the devil (on MN specifically not this thread) but if you have one use to to your advantage. Mine gives me money back in the form of M&S or amazon vouchers every quarter depending on how much I've spent. and as long as you pay it off every month it works.
Top Cashback for all internet purchases.
Join the library - many have free access to Audible, Libby (for magazines and newspapers) as well as having an amazing selection of books.
Consider how you cook things - residual heat cooking works really well for rice and any slow cooker recipe.
Grow herbs and salad leaves on a window sill
Grow soft fruit - your local allotment / neighbours with a raspberry cane/ strawberry / current / gooseberry will be more than happy to give you a cutting.
Look for local food pantries
If you need credit use a Credit Union. If you are saving support your local credit union by becoming one of their savers.

Useful websites
Money Saving Expert especially the 90 ways to survive the cost of living crisis

Independent Foodbank Network There are some things that I wish we did not need

CAB

step change

cooking on a bootstrap

Thrifty Lesley

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belephant · 03/05/2022 09:24

@Orangesandlemons77 I totally understand, our financial situation will be quite dire in a few months time when my maternity pay stops. I don't have a job to go back to anyway but even if I did, for various reasons childcare isn't an option for us currently. My DH will have to work overtime to make ends anywhere close to meeting - thankfully it's always available at his workplace atm but if that stops we will be in trouble really. Therefore we're also on a very tight budget after being comfortable-ish for a few years, so it's a bit of a shock. I grew up in quite bad poverty so it's making me feel really sad tbh as I thought that part of my life was behind me.

I haven't posted much on this thread yet, but I'm enjoying reading as I think that living frugally is almost like a lifestyle, and it makes me feel better if I can tell myself that our frugal lifestyle atm is just that - a lifestyle choice rather than something being forced on us. Maybe that will be helpful for you? Totally understandable if it isn't, but I just thought it worth mentioning. Please don't feel inadequate, in any case, you're certainly not alone and I'm sure everyone would love to have you on the threadSmile

Hairband100 · 03/05/2022 10:06

NCed

I think this issue of it being titled as a Frugal thread and then posts about big spends, Ocado shops and the general lists of stuff people buy has come up before.

Its evolved from being a strictly frugal thread into a group of people who are now internet buddies and perhaps some of the newbies are looking for people who are in the same situation and for very frugal living advice.

Its also often the case that people joined who had debt but have now resolved that but have good incomes but stuck around as its a supportive place.
Not a criticism of anyone but perhaps a sticky at the top of new threads might help.

Gensola · 03/05/2022 13:27

@Hairband100 everyone is welcome here - I wouldn’t like to see a thread where people felt they couldn’t share their big spends or Ocado orders, that sort of gate-keeping isn’t the vibe of the threads and never has been 😊

Hairband100 · 03/05/2022 13:54

Gensola · 03/05/2022 13:27

@Hairband100 everyone is welcome here - I wouldn’t like to see a thread where people felt they couldn’t share their big spends or Ocado orders, that sort of gate-keeping isn’t the vibe of the threads and never has been 😊

I didnt suggest "gatekeeping"@Gensola

I suggested a sticky at the top of the thread explaining how the thread has evolved but is a supportive place .

WreckTangled · 03/05/2022 13:59

Ok I checked my bank balance and decided against going out. We did go to the village shop for chocolate though £2.45.

I'm under my heated throw, it's quite warm outside but not inside, annoyingly.

The dc have youth club tonight which will be £4 for both of them.

I think it's always been a chatty thread, certainly since I first joined 8(?!) years ago (probably? Can't remember how old ds was when I joined...)

Em did you see quantas are going to start their direct flights from Australia to London from next year? I'm sure that'll be cheap Grin I'm not sure I'd want to do it actually, 20 hours on a plane doesn't sound fun. My ankles blow up the second we take off Hmm

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 14:05

Right, well, I am trying to take control of my finances by sitting on the sodding line to sodding Santander in order to change my credit card DD this month, a mere three weeks ahead of the scheduled payment date. Apparently a modern bank cannot possibly manage this sort of last minute change online and I need to speak to someone to do this. Chance would be a fine thing! First Direct seem have invested in telephone advisors, (we have our joint account there) and answer quickly, but unfortunately they weren't offering a £130 inducement to switch to them, so I went to Santander for my personal account, tempted by the cash. I have certainly earned it since.

Honestly, this gives me the rage, and I'm in a position where I can put the phone on speaker and just bimble around doing other things while I sit in the queue. Every single bit of admin I have needed to do over this last year (insurance claims on house and pet insurance, tax office, banking, office of the public guardian, GP appointments, energy company) has taken hours of waiting and queuing. Why don't these sodding companies invest in some decent customer service?? You know those threads where people sneer at the idea that 'admin' takes up time and that it is actually a useful and unacknowledged task, usually performed by women, that helps shore up family life? Well, I would cheerfully exchange their blah-blah, important meeting for some of these frustrating calls.

When I used to work FT in offices and was in blah-blah important meetings, I still had to get these things done, only in lunchtimes. Thing is, the services have got worse. A whole, old-fashioned, 30 minute paid lunchbreak wouldn't even be enough time to connect to a customer service person now.

belephant · 03/05/2022 14:45

Managed to get through the BH weekend only spending £3 on a jar of instant coffee - the absolute horror when I woke up on Monday morning only for DH to tell me we had no coffee left 😱

@BigSkies22 totally agree, a few years ago me and DH were trying to move house whilst both working 9-5, an hour's commute from where we lived, and said commute was a bus ride that was mostly through areas with no mobile signal. We both had 30 min lunch breaks. Getting in touch with absolutely anyone was near impossible!!

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 15:01

As for the definition of 'frugality' - well, I suppose I think about it as trying to prioritise and afford what is really important and be mindful about your spending. Right now, about 93 % of my monthly income is accounted for on pretty much unavoidable expenditure. It's OK, I can manage it, provided I keep myself on a tight rein, and all non-essential stuff is carefully planned for ahead; but it's a long way from the 50:30:20 (essential/desired/saving) expenditure ratio that is often recommended.

These kind of threads help keep me on track when I'm chafing under the restrictions and motivate me with good ideas for saving. But I don't expect my circumstances to be replicated by everyone on the thread in order to find it useful.

Next frugal bit of admin: find out about the current rules for prescribing HRT and sort it out with my GP. I keep hearing about how the HoC has ruled to reduce prescription costs to patients by prescribing 12 months supply all at once, or combining oestrogen and progesterone products on the same prescription. But my pharmacist just looks vague when I ask and says something about not in effect yet. Since I use 4 different products, and spend about £10 a month on prescriptions, it would be good to get this sorted. Another queue on the phone to the GP, no doubt!

Decafflatteplease · 03/05/2022 16:48

Another one here trying to do admin today and it takes so long! Still, lots of little annoying jobs ticked off my to do list. Just things like organising haircuts, kids jabs, kids school trips, ordering new things they need like wellies etc. Ordering birthday presents for family and friends. Honestly I need a PA sometimes 🤣

So it was a spendy day today due to aforementioned admin tasks

£17 school trip
£17 wellies and plastic folders for paperwork
£35 on present

Dropped a load of stuff off at the charity shop aswell so the house looks a bit tidier.

Also went to Lidl to try doing a top up shop there like I mentioned a few days ago. Absolutely shocked at how low the prices are and embarrassed at how much we waste money spend on ocado on exactly the same things. It's circumstances though, with a large family and disabled dc it's rare I have time / headspace to actually go the shops for food, ocado is too easy.
Price wise though...week in week out we buy these Quaker oat bars and they are £1 on ocado and 79p in Lidl....fridge raiders £2.60 on ocado £1.69 in Lidl. Individually wrapped pain au Choc 89p in Lidl £1.85 on ocado.

WreckTangled · 03/05/2022 16:55

I find there's the weighing up between time and money. I can get a tesco delivery for £3 and not leave my house. Or I can drive the 40 mile round trip to Aldi/lidl and spend 30-40 mins in there then have to pop over the road to Sainsbury's or drive a bit further to tesco to get the things I couldn't get in Aldi (coffee, and anything else that Aldi is out of stock of often they have no tinned tomatoes or jars of olives etc) all costing probably £5 in fuel and three hours of time.

Hairband100 · 03/05/2022 16:56

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 14:05

Right, well, I am trying to take control of my finances by sitting on the sodding line to sodding Santander in order to change my credit card DD this month, a mere three weeks ahead of the scheduled payment date. Apparently a modern bank cannot possibly manage this sort of last minute change online and I need to speak to someone to do this. Chance would be a fine thing! First Direct seem have invested in telephone advisors, (we have our joint account there) and answer quickly, but unfortunately they weren't offering a £130 inducement to switch to them, so I went to Santander for my personal account, tempted by the cash. I have certainly earned it since.

Honestly, this gives me the rage, and I'm in a position where I can put the phone on speaker and just bimble around doing other things while I sit in the queue. Every single bit of admin I have needed to do over this last year (insurance claims on house and pet insurance, tax office, banking, office of the public guardian, GP appointments, energy company) has taken hours of waiting and queuing. Why don't these sodding companies invest in some decent customer service?? You know those threads where people sneer at the idea that 'admin' takes up time and that it is actually a useful and unacknowledged task, usually performed by women, that helps shore up family life? Well, I would cheerfully exchange their blah-blah, important meeting for some of these frustrating calls.

When I used to work FT in offices and was in blah-blah important meetings, I still had to get these things done, only in lunchtimes. Thing is, the services have got worse. A whole, old-fashioned, 30 minute paid lunchbreak wouldn't even be enough time to connect to a customer service person now.

Thats sounds awfully frustrating.
I have to confess Ive not had the same experience as Im on online apps for everything and insurance, pet insurance, banking, utilities etc all done online.
No people required 😁
Actually I can book GP appts online also.
Regarding the HRT I did consultation with GP and now order from a pharmacy online 3 months at a time.
Costs the same as monthly and no hoo haa - have you thought of stopping every time.
Its delivered to my door and I dont have to hunt it down.

WreckTangled · 03/05/2022 17:06

I agree with the whole waiting on hold thing. Even worse when it's not a free number! I had to phone o2 no fewer than four times to cancel my contract with them and I was a crazy woman by the end of it.

lifelongfrugaleer · 03/05/2022 17:18

I agree re deliveries. I get sainsburys when I’m time poor as the stress of running about is too much. But I try and minimise it by buying in bulk on pay day. A luxury we never used to be able to afford

those postings more comfortable spends have been through the lean times and are out the other side. Whoever does the next thread can I’m sure put a note in the op
8 years wreck! Yes it must be. Wow

Decafflatteplease · 03/05/2022 17:25

Thanks @lifelongfrugaleer and @WreckTangled . I have a few days a week when my youngest is at preschool so maybe I'll try going to Lidl more often. Got the app too to save money. I have to do a top up shop midweek anyway so it makes sense to go to Lidl rather than Asda but without the pressure of having to do a full weeks shop there but even going today means we won't need to order oat bars / pain au Choc / fridge raiders on this week's ocado order which has saved us around £5 and it doesn't cost that much in diesel.

Flipping warning light has come on in the car, am airbag one this time so it will have to go to the garage again. Literally was in the garage at Easter so it's only been a month or so uurgh. We are just going to have to keep fixing it.

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 17:33

Hairband - well, yes, I'm online and apps for banking, all insurance, GP repeat prescriptions, utilities, etc. And all that is fine until you get to something that can't be done online - like making a GP appointment to discuss results, or a prescription change. Or exotic things like changing a direct debit less than an entire billing cycle ahead. Or asking why your tax payment is apparently two different amounts for the same period on two different pages of the same website and could someone please explain which is correct and how much the payment plan should therefore be. Or making a claim against an insurance policy that fails to progress after 4 weeks and then you need to find out why and how to fix it. The online interface works fine provided you are on the exact rails anticipated by the service provider. Any deviation and you're sitting in a queue, getting the rage.

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 17:41

And yes to the cheapness of Aldi/Lidl (I'm Aldi) compared to Sainsbury's, etc. Fair enough, when we both working FT and commuting, the online order and home delivery was a reasonable expense. But I weep to think how much money I spent unnecessarily by not making the switch from online Sainsbury's to Aldi immediately I stopped working and had the time.

Hairband100 · 03/05/2022 17:54

BigSkies22 · 03/05/2022 17:33

Hairband - well, yes, I'm online and apps for banking, all insurance, GP repeat prescriptions, utilities, etc. And all that is fine until you get to something that can't be done online - like making a GP appointment to discuss results, or a prescription change. Or exotic things like changing a direct debit less than an entire billing cycle ahead. Or asking why your tax payment is apparently two different amounts for the same period on two different pages of the same website and could someone please explain which is correct and how much the payment plan should therefore be. Or making a claim against an insurance policy that fails to progress after 4 weeks and then you need to find out why and how to fix it. The online interface works fine provided you are on the exact rails anticipated by the service provider. Any deviation and you're sitting in a queue, getting the rage.

Obviously I lead a very average life
😆

For things like DD I can change the amount via online banking and utilities via the Bulb app.
If you are trying to change the dates for financial reasons I can see why they need to speak to you in person as its not unknown for ex partners etc to do things like this maliciously as a type of financial abuse.

For banking I would recommend HSBC Advance.
Love the balance after bills thingy, keeps me on track .
Utilities Bulb
Brilliant app , I can stalk our usage which is great with teens, change the DD, enter meter readings
Pet Insurance
Sainsburys -I can see progress for claims in the Portal.

CheeseMaiden · 03/05/2022 18:00

Day off tomorrow, taking DD to a local soft play (£1.50 at the children’s centre, bargain!) and then to Lidl for sausages and a butter nut squash for dinner (our veg box isn’t lasting us the week anymore so I will have to go for a bigger box next time).
might browse the charity shops for some summer tops, picked up an age 2-3 puddle suit for £3 at the weekend so I feel like I’m on a roll!

booked a haircut for Saturday, my first one in a year- couldn’t leave it any longer, every time I look in the mirror I’m reminded of an Afghan hound 🫣

Unescorted · 03/05/2022 18:50

A sticky might be a good idea on the new thread. I hate to think people are put off staying on the thread b/c they join at a time when people are posting about finally buying the thing they have saved up for for ages but agree it would be a shame to lose the chat element.

My near useless DH does the life admin. It is his contribution to family life.

NSD ..... First one for ages. I am going to frame it.

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CurlsandCurves · 03/05/2022 18:52

Shop done. I was rushing around, making sure I stuck to my list, came home and went through the receipt. Aldi own brand butter is now 1.75!!!! We don’t use butter much, usually spread. But I always have some in because it’s nicer for toast. Won’t be buying any more for a while, that’s a ridiculous price. Not do long ago it was around 90p. Then it’s been about £1.40 for a couple of years. But almost £2? Nope, not happening anymore.

Also nipped to Dunelm to buy another clothes Airer. Now the boys are older it’s like having 4 adults in the house and a washing load just doesn’t fit on one airer and it’s been doing my head in .

ememem84 · 03/05/2022 18:59

wreck I did see it and I’m with you. No thanks. Or to quote a very antipodean phrase “yeahhhh nah”

I looked at sky scanner again today and can get flights at around the just over £6k mark but it involves 81 hours total of travel to get from Australia to home. Again yeah nah.

spends today £31 in sports shop on two swimming floats for the dc. When I took ds swimming on Sunday he was really wary. He has swimming lessons a while ago but covid put pay today these and now I can’t get him back in the class. I’ve registered for a waitlist spot though.

a colleague is a swim teacher and has kindly offered to come with us a few times on the condition I pay for her swim and also snacks after. Obviously this is a good deal for me!

tomorrow I’m out for a fancy schmancy lunch with a client. I’ll pop this on my credit card and get reimbursed by work. Clients choice of location. I may or may not go back to the office after (depends on how much wine I have….)

This is the part of my job I enjoy the most.

I do all of our “life admin” it’s never ending.

im on the “pay for it to buy me time” train. Although it’s increasingly difficult at present to get a home delivery for coop (the only one we can do here). We have Waitrose m&s food and Iceland and Morrisons. But whilst they all do home delivery you have to do into store to pick it out and pay for it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

the only things I have managed to cut down recently are our phone and internet. Cancelled dhs contract and bundled him onto mine. Saving £14 a month.

we have one electric provider here. Rates (similar to council tax I guess) are expensive and no option not to pay. We have Netflix (basic one) Disney plus (shared with dsis we pay 50/50) and Amazon prime (essential to actually get stuff here.

come September though we’ll save approx £1900 a month as both kids will be out of private nursery. Ds starts school (yay!) and dd starts at the schools nursery/pre school. Yay!!

ememem84 · 03/05/2022 20:34

Hoover recovered. And yesterday I emailed our local repair shop because hoover wasn’t sucking up. They quoted me £75 to look at and fix the hoover as a minimum.

I’ve just taken it apart myself. Declogged it (turns out a smartie tube lid was clogging the hose and affecting the suction. Jabbed at it with chopsticks until it loosened. And ta da! Hoover working. Saved myself £75. Win.

DH went to dr today (£50). He has an ear infection. So antibiotics and decongestants for him. Can’t believe how expensive it is to see a dr here.

TheNewlmprovedMrsMadEvans · 03/05/2022 21:03

Hope your Dh is ok very soon & am glad you rescued your hoover Em you will not know yourself come September Smile
While shopping today l bought flowers & made a bouquet for my Mum's 90th birthday party tomorrow instead of forking out £30 it cost me £12 & a bit of effort . Not as good as if l had it done professionally but it still looks pretty . I watched several tutorials before doing it Smile

Amble into April Frugaleering
ememem84 · 03/05/2022 21:10

mrs that’s beautiful! And wow! 90! Amazing

lifelongfrugaleer · 03/05/2022 21:18

Those flowers are lovely
and yeah on fixing the hoover. I totally would pay more to fly less time in that case

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