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Hoping all your new year wishes come true.

Dd didn't sit until 8.5 months either. It's hard to give a definite answer, each baby is different and some can sit very nicely with a bit of supported even if they can't sit unaided.

Sorry I am getting drawn into this.

Information about weaning is very very widely available. Even 8 years ago. Amazingly I could find appropriate information 15.5 years ago without the internet when dd1 was a baby.

High chairs, bumbos, bouncy chairs are all designed for aiding babies to sit up so they do not choke. Whether or not your baby can sit up unaided has nothing to do with your ability to wean them.

And breathe. Now I am going to turn my bloody tablet off before I launch it.

It might be for you Lonely but it wasn't for me. Baby led weaning was the only thing in my peer group, and anyone who didn't was practically ostracized.

If Meadow asks for help, I'm happy to give it, as much as I'm able, as I remember how hard that phase was, with a difficult first baby.

It is so difficult to keep up with what is best for the little things. And there is so much contridictory information. It was much simpler before the internet existed to make Mother's feel guilty because there is a quick buck to be made by creating doubt. Having said that there were a lot of things I did that just are plain stupid when I think about it.

You see it on the forums here ..."what maternity bag for spring baby" ( a carrier bag worked just fine). AIBU to take out asecond mortgage to buy a pram ( buy second hand pram). A whole industry exists to make us feel inadequate about being parents...... Boils my piss it does.

Very true unescorted.

I'm just thinking that Lonely must know a ton about this stuff too. I wish I'd known her back in the day.

Oh actually I also put £20 into a birthday card for my sister today but dh gave that to me so I don't think I need to count it

It's my Friday tomorrow at work which I'm really happy about. My manager said I can do whatever works for me wrt to adjusting my hours whilst the road is closed.

Oh also she has put me forward for a course I don't think my brain is able to study so maybe this is a good one for me? It's a bridging programme. I'll have to do half of it in my own time because I'm part time but can do the other half during working hours. So nervous this is completely outside of my comfort zone!

I wonder what the advice will be like by the time I have spawned offspring.

Wreck you have reminded me £30 in card for nephew. Will see if df can post my level tomorrow as I have to go into the office, work was ridiculously busy today with a late meeting so I didn’t have time

Lonely I kind of wish I hadn’t told h I was going out but he asked me direct what I was doing and why I needed him to have ds at a particular time. The majority of me doesn’t think he’s done this on purpose but there is a tiny angry bit of me that is suspicious

LOL! Sneaky. Different certainly. It changes like the weather, in spite of the fact that babies don't.

I've been good and spent nothing except on a tesco shop today. £83.

Other than that, all free entertainment on youtube and writing music for ds to play when he practises. I enjoyed that.

wolf beg to have DS one time ...say you are planning on going away for a weekend. Then see what his reaction is. If he insists that DS has to see him then you know he is is doing it to spite you. Either way DS will feel that he is wanted. Does that make sense. I don't feel I am explaining very well.

When my ds were young you weaned at 4 months on to pureed food, by the time they were 6 months you were supposed to be introducing lumps and finger foods. Now that you don't wean until 6 months I imagine they've just done away with the puree. I think baby led weaning is very much of a lots of it mashed into the highchair and thrown around. It was before my time but I'm not sure I would have coped with that. Cats would have had a ball right enough

Wolf that's shit. Will you still get to go to?

With weaning there is definitely a lot of good info and some proper ‘dont’s’ which I hope anyone would find easily. Don’t give them salt n vinegar crisps for breakfast, or nice small round chokey things . But there is also more than one way of approaching it (mush, BLW, whatever). In the end I didn’t overthink it because neither of mine would take mush and neither liked being spoon fed. So BLW it was. Their choice, not mine.

Meadow fwiw I wouldn’t beat yourself up about it. Go with pouches if it makes life easier. I’d just stick with the most savoury tasting ones you can most of the time so she doesn’t get too used to seeeg stuff... and a bit of variety. Being veggie probably cuts down your options but needs must. Your DD is still very little and only at the start of weaning so it’s not really about getting food in (formula covers that still) but about getting used to textures and tastes and swallowing. Once you feel confident giving her finger food (doesn’t have to be BLW, just as part of the mix) there are a few quick things I did:

• Quesadillas- spread some tomatoey stuff* in a wrap , sprinkle on cheese, grated carrot, whatever, fold over and toast in a hot pan . Give fingers to munch on.
• just veg - I’d hack a floret or two of broccoli, cauli, stick of carrot, whatever. Or asparagus spears. Boil till fairly soft or stick in a bowl in the microwave with a splash of water and clingfilm (no holes) and cook for a couple of mins till steamed.
• houmous on rice cakes
• bit of lightly toasted bagel and cream cheese

A lot of meals, especially lunches, were very lazy buffet things with a bit of grated carrot or cucumber /tomato in the side. In fact they still are .

When I could muster the energy to cook I made batches of veg tomato sauce, for pasta dinners, or very thick soups (dd likes pea soup). And froze in little portions. Still do that as well.

I am soooo knackered after working all day on 90 mins sleep. Having freezer chilli now and watching NY bake off on Sky + and then going straight to bed!

Cagletini was (is) BLW it’s brilliant. She was sitting by then but it’s true they don’t need to be able to support themselves, as long as the high chair is decent and supportive (you can put a rolled up towel in etc to pad it out). It was lovely not to have to faff about with extra stuff, we have only avoided whole nuts and honey (absolutely vital due to botulism). It’s great because even if you’re having something you don’t want them to have (they CAN have anything but if it’s really salty/sugary etc) you can just shove some frozen veg in the microwave or whatever and let them crack on. It’s adorable watching tiny babies concentrate on picking up peas 😂

It is messy though, that is the one issue I struggled with especially in the old house which was so cramped, and it is a big undertaking especially as many get anxious about choking etc (although I’ve read that BLW is actually better for this long term) and nobody should judge someone who weans traditionally. DD1 first had baby rice at 4m, DS I waited but he still had spoon feeding, so have done it all really.

I have had a very unproductive day unless you count watching Deathnote with DSD. Stepmum Stepdaughter bonding counts right?

(Totally come in at the end of the debate BTW and missed the start... watches tumbleweed...)

Hi everyone.
Last 3 days have been NSDs.

Hope everyone is doing ok, sorry too tired to reply to anyone, going back to work has knocked me for 6!
Will try and be better tomorrow.
Night all!

We do eat egg, yes. Just not meat, fish, or seafood. We used to eat fajitas quite a lot, usually the kits, but I thought the seasoning stuff would be mostly salt and not really great for DD? I make stir fries sometimes too but again I figure the sauces are probably full of salt (and spicy) that aren't suitable for DD?

We don't have a slow cooker, but I think DM has one that she has never used so would probably give it to me if I'm right in thinking she has one, will ask her. That will be especially useful for when I go back to work. I make pasta, and bolognase sometimes. I used to make curries a lot before DD was born but I don't really want to use jar sauces as I figure they're not good for her, I need to dig up some of my old homemade curry recipes...I bought some like dried jackfruit ages ago for a curry and still haven't used it.

Girlie Thanks, will give the book a look. I have Gill Rapley BLW cookbook secondhand from DH's aunt (who has a 3yr old DD) but some of recipes whilst they look nice, take far too long to prep and cook!

Unescorted Tbh I wouldn't beat yourself up about it, at the moment a lot of what she is getting even when she is eating what we are, is mashed up versions of the veg etc (although she won't eat it, the thicker mashy texture she doesn't like yet). I was weaned exclusively on jarred baby food which I think in the early 90s was probably still full of salt/sugar/additives, and I've always been a really good eater, there's hardly naything I don't like, and my DM said my DB used to eat mostly porridge with mushed fruit for months, lol, and he is also a good eater. DSis is a terrible eater and was probably brought up on the healthiest, most normal food from a younger age.

DD likes purees, she also likes finger foods (although obviously doesn't really 'eat' them yet), but she won't eat anything mashed or lumpy yet. We have tried mashing things like banana, carrot, peas, baked beans and she tries it on a spoon and then pulls a face and won't eat the thicker texture and then won't try it again.

Autumn Nope, she still can't sit unaided, though she sits quite well supported now. She can actually stand for a couple of minutes supporting herself holding something, but can't sit unaided yet .

The standing's great Meadow. She must have plans.

Ah, if she’ll eat puréed and she’ll give finger foods a go she’ll manage the stuff in between okay when she’s ready.

Oh, and well done North on getting to the end of the exams stuff whatever the outcome.

I’m off to bed nice and early!

I'm sorry if I'm sharing my opinions/experiences, I thought that was what we do here. I don't "know a ton of stuff about this too " and frankly, don't like the implication. Clearly I offer too much opinion. See my username. Dd1 was the first new born baby I had ever held. I learnt 'on the job' like an awful lot of parents do.

I think this is it for me guys. If you all feel the same as autumn about me offering up another boring anecdote, then I am sorry to have bored you to bits with my posts.

I think that this is what is called a "flounce".

As you were...

Oh come on @LonelyOversharer, we love having you here.

The best thing about these threads is everyone sharing their different opinions and views - that's what makes it interesting!

You're not oversharing. You're giving us your point of view which I for one really appreciate.

Umm...I don't really get what's going on tbh. I know don't if it's just cos I'm autistic or what but I didn't realise there was any kind of conflict going on at all re: weaning, I thought everyone was just talking about their own experiences, really. I think everyone does what they think is best for their child, really, don't they? Lonely I liked your posts re: weaning (and re: everything else, really! ), I think you should stay, and I think everyone else thinks that too? I didn't think that Autumn was trying to 'imply' anything particularly with her comment, I thought that was just the way she talks (/types??).

Maybe I am just majorly misreading everything ? If so, that's kind of worrying because God knows what else I've misunderstood in the past in the years I have been on this thread .

Seacow I am also going to bed now! Goodnight all. No doubt DD will wake me up at 5.45am again tomorrow . DH's 6.30am alarm has become redundant.

Lonely I think you've misunderstood me. I meant that as the mother of four lovely kids, I can see that you have a lot of experience that I don't have. I think that you must genuinely know a huge amount about weaning that I don't.

I was just thinking that if I'd been on a thread like this (as Meadow is) when my ds was small I would have had the opportunity to learn from kind and experienced people like you and my life would have been so much easier.

I'm not quite sure why that came over wrongly, but I wasn't criticising you. I like and respect you and I enjoy your posts.

Sleep for me now too. Zzz.

lonely don't you dare, don't you dare. I'm pm'ing you now.

That remark was passive aggressive autumn, at least I read it that way. I don't believe I'm the only one that did so either.