COVID vaccine? Does it do anything?

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I jumped at getting the COVID vaccines when they came out and I got all the vaccines that I was eligible for to date except for this year.

I got COVID in the summer time and I wasn't able to get the vaccine this winter. My GP recommended a 4 month wait.

It's just I got COVID twice. Once in 2022 and I had that bad too. I wasn't hospitalised but still I was ill with fever, body aches, headaches and coughs for over a week. I was rushed back to work prepaturely when I still wasn't 100% better.

I got COVID this summer too. I was floored with it.

A lot of people were floored with it this summer. Even though we got the COVID vaccines.

It's just I got a reminder text to book the vaccine today and I just don't know.

I am not anti vaccine but what is the point of the vaccine when youre still going to get exposed and become ill to this anyways?

I got flu in 2004 or 2005 and I was getting flu vaccine because of my work from about 2008 and I never had flue since 04/05. The flu vaccine works. But I am questioning the COVID vaccine? What is the point of going out of my way to travel to an establishment to get jabbed and sore for a few days and if I am exposed to COVID, I am likely still going to get it.

Well thank goodness science isn’t based on anecdotal evidence.

ONS is a credible source do you not think?

It is EXTREMELY funny to qualify everything one says with ‘just anecdotal but…’ and then refuse to believe actual scientific research and facts.

This is just like saying "My grandad smoked 50 a day all his life and lived to 100, so smoking isn't bad for you. "

The effectiveness of vaccinations is measured at a population level, not by looking at a few individuals.

Our family didn't have any vaccines. Even my 83-year-old mum just had a few shivers for three days.

No one could pay me to inject that poison into me. Who rolls up to a vaccination centre and lets someone in a hazmat suit inject them?!

All I see around me is myocarditis, heart problems in young and fit vaccinated people.

Weren't the unvaccinated supposed to all die?

The problem is that unvaccinated people can pass it on to other. So you're not just protecting yourself, you're protecting other people as well. Some of whom may have a less robust immune system.

I contracted Whooping cough a few years ago (before Covid) because I was unknowingly unvaccinated, amongst many people who were also unvaccinated. I had a horrible 3 months with it.

Some people may get lucky with Covid. I also had 2 weeks of hell, despite being vaccinated. At least 2 of my friends died. Just because you are not very ill with Covid, doesn't mean the person you pass it on to will be.

Breaking news: the injected also pass it on as it has very little effect on transmission.

Yes that's anecdotal indeed. The number of deaths from Covid have fallen dramatically since vaccination was introduced.

And your source is?

I did say if you are very old the injections may be worthwhile and reduced deaths in that age bracket have bears that out.
There has been basically no movement in deaths in younger people since the roll out ( as so few people younger died anyway)

If you'd turned off TV and other media, would you have noticed the millions of people dying with 'flu' and dropping dead in the street.

No, I wouldn't have either. I work in the media. It was all hyped up.

very much acknowledged and google will help you.

How does a ‘vaccine’ do this? And what is the control mechanism to prove it? Previously vaccines ‘worked’, you had the jab, you didn’t get the disease. Smallpox, diphtheria, TB , polio, that was the case with all of them.

With a virus which has variable effects depending on the sufferer, ranging from a mild cold like bout to death, how can anyone say whether you would have been more ( or even less) affected than if you had not been ‘vaccinated’?

The promise of the Covid vaccine has diminished and diminished. Did it prevent you contracting it? No. Did it prevent you transmitting it? No.

But you only get it mildly, or at least, a bit less seriously. And that can’t actually be proved.

You're being deliberately dense. Re read my reply that you quoted and you shall find your answer.
But I see from others on the thread that they feel you are being deliberately dense too. So good day to you.

As pp have said, the vaccine is intended to reduce severity of COVID. The NHS's measure of severity is purely being hospitalized/being on ICU/dying. Not how wiped out you were with it at home.

I am in a risk group owing tob blood pressure but as I have never knowingly had covid fail to see the point.

Friends who have these vaccines still seem to get sick.

I had the vaccine 3 times but won't again.

Anyone see the report on the BBC's coverage of the whole thing?
They were given a rap across the knuckles for exaggerating deaths and illness and taking the odd very rare case of a younger person dying and reporting it as if this was a common thing and all were at equal risk.
Coupled with the gov. notes that people weren't scared enough so the propaganda needed ramping up and you can see why people were taken in.

Tbh I actually think it's criminal.

I was one of the first to get it as worked in healthcare at the time.

Even a cursory glance at AstraZeneca trial told me that it should not be given to 30-40 women (they had to stop the trial multiple times due to Gillian barres reactions).

I wrote to Boris at the time about it. It was clear as day.

So as I knew it would be compulsory I rushed to get the Pfizer in case they made AZ the only option.

I had a systemic allergic reaction. Had covid multiple times since badly when I had not had it previously (whilst working in homes with outbreaks).

Series of weird events for me, my partner and others anecdotally (my partner went temporarily blind and ended up in the stroke unit where they couldn't find anything).

It's a shame because I have never been antivax before and it's made me wary now of new medicines. I'm pregnant and there's the new RSV vaccine and I'm torn whether I should get it or not when before I wouldn't thought twice.

The fact Pfizer are allowed to not disclose their trial data for 75 years to me is seriously fishy. Why?! They have something to hide. And it's criminal. I'm convinced this is why they were trying to vaccinate the children. They were the only control group remaining. Thankfully many countries didn't fall for that.

I’ve had the Covid (and flu) jab every year.

I’ve had Covid once confirmed, and another time suspected. The first time was pre jabs and I didn’t have a single symptom. The second time might have been post the first jab and was akin to a bad cold / mild tonsillitis (tbh it could have been tonsillitis I had rather then Covid).

If I’ve had it since I’ve had no idea. Same with flu.

I might be protected by the jabs, or my own immune system or not exposed to it at all - but I’d rather have the jab than wonder if it’d be better if I had.

It's not just deaths, it's the long term implications and the severity of the illness. I work at a university and several students have had to abandon their courses because of long Covid. It's likely they wouldn't have been so severely affected if they'd been vaccinated.
My best friend was a very fit and healthy 45 year old but she's now been in a wheelchair for two years with long covid.

I agree and with the point of losing trust: I have had all other vaccines, as have my children but would not have the covid.
Why does that cause such ire from people and accusations of being a conspiracy theorist?

Also anecdotally, it means it's like a bit of a sniffle when you do catch it.

yes, mine was a sniffle after no injections; the same as the majority of people,

I don’t know if it’s different immune systems, eating habits, socialising, work environments , no idea but I’ve had every Covid jab I was entitled to as a 60+ and never had Covid, not even had the vaguest symptoms of it. No idea why.
I used to work as a reception teacher so sneezed on, coughed on daily and in just under 10 years had one and half days sick with migraines. 🤷‍♀️

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-30992100768-4/fulltext

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