covid coming back - but how bad is this wave?

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It's been a while since I posted . Developed sudden flu symptoms in the night & tested positive to covid this morning. Seeing more twitter - X re new wave, new variant. I know cases were still happening but wondered how many are getting it now - and how last

Unless you are susceptible to dying from mild colds, you have nothing to worry about. Presumably you survived many, so you will survive this one too.
But do seek treatment for your health anxiety because that can be very harmful.

This is a covid thread, not a 'cold' thread. HTH

And better adherence to the guidelines that if you have it, you stay home for 5 days unless it's truly essential that you go out (with same levels of compliance as, for example, not taking your DC out and about when they have active, not-yet-scabbed chickenpox vesicles; or 48 hours with D&V, etc)

This would be good but I can’t see workplaces willing to pay people whilst off, or not being unhappy about absences that length of time.

I’m probably going to get crucified by all the worried well here but, for god’s sake, get a grip. My lovely dad died lonely and alone in hospital during Covid lockdowns of non-Covid and my mum, who was sprightly as a (whatever the appropriate expression is) has become agoraphobic. She is severely immuno-compromised but she lives in a prison of her own making now. My children and I followed every single Covid fucking rule to the absolute letter. But no more.

Why the hell are people still testing? Who is stockpiling tests? We have vaccines now.

Honestly, I was the most law-abiding person ever during every single lockdown. But you can fuck off with your pointless masks and your pointless rules. My dad died without a hand to hold and when he was dead, I had to go into his ward wearing full-on PPE, including breathing apparatus, to retrieve his half a carrier bag of belongings that had been permitted into the ward. What a fucking sad end to a rich life of 80-plus years.

I would rather burn down Number 10 single-handedly than wear a stupid fucking fabric mask or non-surgical mask that doesn’t even prevent the exchange of germs. For the sake of all our children and young people, can we please not move on from the pandemic? The worried well and the health anxious are always going to fixate on every single virus.

I’ll remember my ‘health anxiety’ as l struggle along into weak 6 of total exhaustion, weakness, headache and brain fog.

So it is something to worry about. I’ve never had another illness for this long before.

Please do speak to your GP if you haven't already and its carried on into week 12. They can refer you for help with long covid

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Workplaces aren't wild about the absences caused by long covid either.

And the government is getting v concerned about the numbers leaving the workforce, with estimates for those with long covid ranging from 1.5 - 2 million, plus somewhere between 0.5 - 1.5 million still being asked to live in a precautionary manner because they are critically vulnerable (a number that doesn't go away, as each new cancer diagnosis adds to it)

So yes, it's a balancing act. But the costs of long covid are, perhaps, beginning to show up, and moving towards recognition that some staff having a few days off sick during the acute illness is better than many staff coming down with it with some being too unwell to work in the acute phase and then a further number either unable to work at all, or needing adjustments because of long covid (incidence is roughly 10% of all infections at present)

For the sake of all our children and young people, can we please not move on from the pandemic?

I don't think there's any way to persuade a virus to behave differently just because people want to "move on"

We need instead to look at reducing its impact, and that is done by clean air measures, proper masking in healthcare settings, better prophylaxis (vaccinations and also MABS for those who may not form a good response to vaccines) and better buy-in to compliance with guidance on keeping away from others when you know you have it. Those could be the measures that truly end the pandemic

Or maybe we just treat it like flu or the common cold, and accept that people - unfortunately- will die from one or the other, as they do other viruses. Obviously, it’s very sad when people (mainly extremely vulnerable) due from viruses but it is the way of nature?

Did anyone else get lots of mouth ulcer type sores with this bout? I couldn’t eat for a week with them!

Dunno, can’t we let people die of all sorts then for the ‘way of nature’. Chickenpox, diabetes, heart failure?

Chicken Licken, is that you?

Covid presents as a mild cold in almost everyone. Thats what the NHS said. Where have you been for the last few years.

We have absolutely no problem with interfering with "the way of nature" when it comes to things like having clean drinking water, isolation periods for other diseases, hygiene practices in hospitals, vaccination schedules, safer sex advice etc etc etc.

Why on earth should we be defeatist about a novel virus, especially when there are things that can be done?

And especially this early, when the longer term effects are not yet known (think of how the onset of eg shingles can be many years after chicken pox, or SSPE can is typically 7 years after shingles (range under 1 year to 27 years)

The main NHS COVID information page lists symptoms of the acute phase, then says:

The symptoms are very similar to symptoms of other illnesses, such as colds and flu
Most people feel better within a few days or weeks of their first COVID-19 symptoms and make a full recovery within 12 weeks. For some people, it can be a more serious illness and their symptoms can last longer

That is far from saying it's a mild cold

But that's what you are doing? That's what the three years of lockdowns and restrictions did - let people die of diabetes, strokes, heart attacks and will do for many more years due to refusing to treat people with those things so to appease those who were were worried they would die of a mild viral illness that Covid is?
It is an extremely severe case of health anxiety if someone is still worried, with all the evidence of the contrary, with all the vaccinations available to the hypochondriacs and Munchausen sufferers. If you didn't believe your own eyes and facts, never gone into empty overstaffed hospitals, have a look at the text messages between ministers saying how lockdown measures were imposed. It was done to appease the Great Unwashed and had no basis in science. Not even in science commissioned by the said ministers.

Because that is what actually happens?

But that's what you are doing? That's what the three years of lockdowns and restrictions did

Absolutely no-one on this thread had recommended a further lockdown

Yeah, who gives a stuff when vulnerable people die. They’re just a massive waste of space anyway.

This i you a what you’re really saying now, isn’t it? Go back to Germany 1940. Sounds like you would fit right in.

You think people die of chicken pox?

Really?

If you didn't believe your own eyes and facts, never gone into empty overstaffed hospitals, have a look at the text messages between ministers saying how lockdown measures were imposed. It was done to appease the Great Unwashed and had no basis in science. Not even in science commissioned by the said ministers

Could you perhaps provide some links to back these assertions up @Elephantsdontlikechocolate? Especially the part about empty overstaffed hospitals?

May be take a course in primary school statistics and doing some basic research if this is alarming to you.
Anxiety is much more dangerous and destructive to you and your family than what you are actually fearing.

So many people worried about a virus they've been vaccinated against.

Honestly, what was the point of the vaccine,

It hasn't made any difference.

It is "silly season" in the news, by the way - just saying for the easily led.