Page 6 | covid coming back - but how bad is this wave?

K73c · 2023-08-19T12:52:46+00:00

It's been a while since I posted . Developed sudden flu symptoms in the night & tested positive to covid this morning. Seeing more twitter - X re new wave, new variant. I know cases were still happening but wondered how many are getting it now - and how last

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 23:32

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 19/08/2023 23:14

We have absolutely no problem with interfering with "the way of nature" when it comes to things like having clean drinking water, isolation periods for other diseases, hygiene practices in hospitals, vaccination schedules, safer sex advice etc etc etc.

Why on earth should we be defeatist about a novel virus, especially when there are things that can be done?

And especially this early, when the longer term effects are not yet known (think of how the onset of eg shingles can be many years after chicken pox, or SSPE can is typically 7 years after shingles (range under 1 year to 27 years)

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But what are your ‘things that should be done’? Because, as an extremely law abiding citizen, I am absolutely and categorically telling you that my children and I will not be locked down (again) and nor will be be wearing (stupid) face masks. Personally, I would rather that ‘any’ virus took us than live the lesser life we had for years and my children are still suffering now. I care not a fig for chicken pox or shingles; especially as the wellbeing of children is sacrificed in this situation to prevent the suffering of older people.

Viruses happen and mutate all the time. People get sick, some more than others. Depending on their immune systems. It’s not being defeatist to want to live life; it’s called being human.

Elephantsdontlikechocolate · 19/08/2023 23:38

WongWifi · 19/08/2023 23:24

Yeah, who gives a stuff when vulnerable people die. They’re just a massive waste of space anyway.

This i you a what you’re really saying now, isn’t it? Go back to Germany 1940. Sounds like you would fit right in.

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No, you sound like you would fit right in.
People die due to flus, colds, bronchitis every winter, thousands of them, and even sometimes of chickenpox (which is why some countries vaccinate against chickenpox), Covid (which normally presents as a mild cold), spider bites and lots of other things.
The risk to you dying of covid, even if you are a 103 year old BMI 62 male cancer patient, is still extremely low.
But the risk to you dying of mental health issues or ignorance is higher.
I don't actually believe the covid anxious threads are for real - haven't all those worried had their 29th booster? Maybe it's the booster talking now?

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 23:39

Oh, don’t be silly. I have a child who is blind. She would have been one of the first on the camp trains for being so disabled and useless (not my actual words). But we have moved on since 1939-45 (well, actually, not as much as I would have liked as the parent of a disabled child). Still, I am allowed, surely, to believe that there is a lot of hyperbole and health anxiety in this thread (about Covid)? And I have explained my own (sensitive) reasons why so I would appreciate you respecting them.

WongWifi · 19/08/2023 23:40

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/08/2023 23:46

Elephantsdontlikechocolate · 19/08/2023 23:19

But that's what you are doing? That's what the three years of lockdowns and restrictions did - let people die of diabetes, strokes, heart attacks and will do for many more years due to refusing to treat people with those things so to appease those who were were worried they would die of a mild viral illness that Covid is?
It is an extremely severe case of health anxiety if someone is still worried, with all the evidence of the contrary, with all the vaccinations available to the hypochondriacs and Munchausen sufferers. If you didn't believe your own eyes and facts, never gone into empty overstaffed hospitals, have a look at the text messages between ministers saying how lockdown measures were imposed. It was done to appease the Great Unwashed and had no basis in science. Not even in science commissioned by the said ministers.

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I don’t think a virus that kills one in 100 is mild.

LongDarkTeatime · 19/08/2023 23:46

Hi OP. Hope you’re feeling better soon x
We’ve all just got it too, it seems to be rampant. One of our family is immunosuppressed, another already fighting long Covid, so I’m hoping it’s not too bad this time.
The autumn vaccine rollout has already started for NHS staff. They’re doing it tandem with the annual flu vaccine.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/08/2023 23:48

especially as the wellbeing of children is sacrificed in this situation to prevent the suffering of older people

It was to protect the NHS not ‘older people’

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 23:50

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Nah! My children have the smarts and are well educated and fully understand the absolutely minuscule risk of Covid, as compared to other so-called ‘deadly’ diseases. They are also still processing the death of their beloved grandpa, who died of (negligent) medical care during the pandemic, when the worried well and health neurotics took over the world. Their beloved grandpa never got to hold his beloved grandaughters’ hands while he was dying , because, you know, non-existent germs. It’s so sad that the obsessively ill/worried well are STILL carrying this on.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/08/2023 23:54

Wow, you are a piece of work @Elephantsdontlikechocolate .

Deathbyfluffy · 19/08/2023 23:59

seratoninmoonbeams · 19/08/2023 14:39

😆 how is a yawn 🥱 emoji snide?! I rarely comment so don't know how you've singled me out with regards to that.

Because it adds absolutely nothing and just makes the OP feel like their thread isn’t important.

It’s not hard to work out unless you have the IQ of a teaspoon!

EliflurtleTripanInfinite · 20/08/2023 00:00

I had it recently, no idea when it's going to stop effecting me. The last time I got it it took me a year to be almost back to normal and then I got it again. I have a chronic illness but not one that should make me vulnerable. I've never shielded. I think it's no worse than the flu now for most people, but it's still causing a lot of havoc amoung some parts of the community. The flu would make me just as sick but only for a few weeks, the lingering fevers, struggling to breath, exhaustion, weak muscles, dizziness and so on are specific to covid for me and some of my friends who have chronic illnesses. Just to be clear we're not for or expecting any more lockdowns, but covid is still having massive impacts on some people's lives and isn't just another virus for us.

WongWifi · 20/08/2023 00:04

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 23:50

Nah! My children have the smarts and are well educated and fully understand the absolutely minuscule risk of Covid, as compared to other so-called ‘deadly’ diseases. They are also still processing the death of their beloved grandpa, who died of (negligent) medical care during the pandemic, when the worried well and health neurotics took over the world. Their beloved grandpa never got to hold his beloved grandaughters’ hands while he was dying , because, you know, non-existent germs. It’s so sad that the obsessively ill/worried well are STILL carrying this on.

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You’ll learn the hard way but it’s a pity innocent children will have to suffer because their mother failed in her duty to protect them from a preventable disease. Remember my words when it comes for you.

Bellyblueboy · 20/08/2023 00:12

I just had it for the third time. Wasn’t to bad this time.

I had a very sore throat and a high temperature. A week in the house - and exhausted for a few days afterwards.

I had pre Covid flu and it was worse.

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:14

Too many terrifying doom-mongers on this thread. Are you all also prepping for the apocalypse? Personally speaking, I’d rather that the zombies took us alive rather than have to live off (fucking hell, I nearly wrote ‘of’ but then realised I’d be flayed alive on here by the grammar nazis) tins of tuna for weeks at a time. The COVID can also take us if it means that I no longer have to battle with my blind, autistic and ADHD kids about the necessity of wearing grandma’s absolutely fucking useless (in terms of preventing the spread of actual scientific germs) cloth masks of suffocation and torture. Only to watch people at the supermarket checkout to pull down the above mentioned to access their phone payment ID.

WongWifi · 20/08/2023 00:16

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:14

Too many terrifying doom-mongers on this thread. Are you all also prepping for the apocalypse? Personally speaking, I’d rather that the zombies took us alive rather than have to live off (fucking hell, I nearly wrote ‘of’ but then realised I’d be flayed alive on here by the grammar nazis) tins of tuna for weeks at a time. The COVID can also take us if it means that I no longer have to battle with my blind, autistic and ADHD kids about the necessity of wearing grandma’s absolutely fucking useless (in terms of preventing the spread of actual scientific germs) cloth masks of suffocation and torture. Only to watch people at the supermarket checkout to pull down the above mentioned to access their phone payment ID.

Sure. Make it all about you,

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:16

WongWifi · 20/08/2023 00:04

You’ll learn the hard way but it’s a pity innocent children will have to suffer because their mother failed in her duty to protect them from a preventable disease. Remember my words when it comes for you.

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Thanks do much for your obviously genuine concern, but I am delighted to report that my children and I have all had Covid / sine of us more than once. I’m sorry to say, for you, that we are all still alive.

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:18

WongWifi · 20/08/2023 00:16

Sure. Make it all about you,

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As opposed to?

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:19

Berlinlover · 19/08/2023 14:05

It never went away, learn to live with it, it’s not Ebola.

Some people are immune suppressed and/or have conditions that mean it is very dangerous you know?

(I am both. I shall "live with it" as you say - I have four children in school and a busy job. But I think I am surely allowed to talk about it?)

mathanxiety · 20/08/2023 00:19

As opposed to?

A little concern for your fellow human beings, outside of your own family?

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:24

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 22:37

I’m probably going to get crucified by all the worried well here but, for god’s sake, get a grip. My lovely dad died lonely and alone in hospital during Covid lockdowns of non-Covid and my mum, who was sprightly as a (whatever the appropriate expression is) has become agoraphobic. She is severely immuno-compromised but she lives in a prison of her own making now. My children and I followed every single Covid fucking rule to the absolute letter. But no more.

Why the hell are people still testing? Who is stockpiling tests? We have vaccines now.

Honestly, I was the most law-abiding person ever during every single lockdown. But you can fuck off with your pointless masks and your pointless rules. My dad died without a hand to hold and when he was dead, I had to go into his ward wearing full-on PPE, including breathing apparatus, to retrieve his half a carrier bag of belongings that had been permitted into the ward. What a fucking sad end to a rich life of 80-plus years.

I would rather burn down Number 10 single-handedly than wear a stupid fucking fabric mask or non-surgical mask that doesn’t even prevent the exchange of germs. For the sake of all our children and young people, can we please not move on from the pandemic? The worried well and the health anxious are always going to fixate on every single virus.

Huh? I still test because if I get I have to order antivirals.

Most people with my condition end up hospitalised (at best) if they get it. Quite a number end ventilated. And that's with all the boosters etc.

I have a grip. I assure you. I still work in the office, my four children all go to school. But I can't pretend COVID isn't a real issue still. I don't expect people to mask . But I expect it to be possible to talk about it without being shrieked at by people who have no understanding of how underlying conditions/immune suppressants change the risk profile

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:25

EmmatheStageRat · 19/08/2023 22:37

I’m probably going to get crucified by all the worried well here but, for god’s sake, get a grip. My lovely dad died lonely and alone in hospital during Covid lockdowns of non-Covid and my mum, who was sprightly as a (whatever the appropriate expression is) has become agoraphobic. She is severely immuno-compromised but she lives in a prison of her own making now. My children and I followed every single Covid fucking rule to the absolute letter. But no more.

Why the hell are people still testing? Who is stockpiling tests? We have vaccines now.

Honestly, I was the most law-abiding person ever during every single lockdown. But you can fuck off with your pointless masks and your pointless rules. My dad died without a hand to hold and when he was dead, I had to go into his ward wearing full-on PPE, including breathing apparatus, to retrieve his half a carrier bag of belongings that had been permitted into the ward. What a fucking sad end to a rich life of 80-plus years.

I would rather burn down Number 10 single-handedly than wear a stupid fucking fabric mask or non-surgical mask that doesn’t even prevent the exchange of germs. For the sake of all our children and young people, can we please not move on from the pandemic? The worried well and the health anxious are always going to fixate on every single virus.

Huh? I still test because if I get I have to order antivirals.

Most people with my condition end up hospitalised (at best) if they get it. Quite a number end ventilated. And that's with all the boosters etc.

I have a grip. I assure you. I still work in the office, my four children all go to school. But I can't pretend COVID isn't a real issue still. I don't expect people to mask . But I expect it to be possible to talk about it without being shrieked at by people who have no understanding of how underlying conditions/immune suppressants change the risk profile

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:45

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:25

Huh? I still test because if I get I have to order antivirals.

Most people with my condition end up hospitalised (at best) if they get it. Quite a number end ventilated. And that's with all the boosters etc.

I have a grip. I assure you. I still work in the office, my four children all go to school. But I can't pretend COVID isn't a real issue still. I don't expect people to mask . But I expect it to be possible to talk about it without being shrieked at by people who have no understanding of how underlying conditions/immune suppressants change the risk profile

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I do understand underlying conditions and immune suppressants; my mum (of 80) is severely immune compromised and is on methotrexate and my DD1, who is blind, also has an autoimmune disorder. I resent you using the ‘shrieking’ terminology about my posts; it’s always a put-down of disagreement. If you read back through my previous posts, I think you will find I have not ‘shrieked’ - even if you disagree with me. Isn’t if enough just to agree to disagree without using oppositional or diminishing language?

Enko · 20/08/2023 00:46

OP I had it in July I am still coughing from it (and currently on a course of antibiotics to try to get this stopped) It floored me for 2 days. High temp and just wanted to sleep but hurt all over - proper flu like symptoms- and I was super tired for over a week after but then recovery was ok apart from the cough.

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:49

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:45

I do understand underlying conditions and immune suppressants; my mum (of 80) is severely immune compromised and is on methotrexate and my DD1, who is blind, also has an autoimmune disorder. I resent you using the ‘shrieking’ terminology about my posts; it’s always a put-down of disagreement. If you read back through my previous posts, I think you will find I have not ‘shrieked’ - even if you disagree with me. Isn’t if enough just to agree to disagree without using oppositional or diminishing language?

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I think you need to re read your posts and reflect on your use of language

EmmatheStageRat · 20/08/2023 00:51

FerryPink · 20/08/2023 00:49

I think you need to re read your posts and reflect on your use of language

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Yup, done that. Found nothing wanting. So it’s a case of zero points to Gryffindor.