Page 21 | AIBU to be sick of people who think it's all back to normal?

JanusTheFirst · 2023-01-01T09:16:56+00:00

Woke to the news that my cousin died early this morning of Covid. No underlying conditions and she was vaccinated. But she was elderly. She hardly ever went out but must have picked it up on a rare outing to the local shop. People are still dying and we should still be looking out for those vulnerable to this awful disease. It isn't all back to normal. My cousin is dead and she wouldn't be but for Covid.

HisNameWasMike · 01/01/2023 15:10

LondonCat7 · 01/01/2023 15:06

If individuals want to meet up and break the rules, I hope they are dealt with with the full force of the law.

The next lockdown will need to be properly enforced with use of the army where necessary.

Oh come on now, first rule of trolling is don't peak too soon. You've got to remain just on the side of believable.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 01/01/2023 15:10

Theluggage15 · 01/01/2023 12:34

No idea what you’re talking about. You’re saying my 89 year old father should stay at home for the rest of his life? What?!

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Ridiculous isn’t it. Life is for living not preserving. My 88yo grandad still goes to the pub he’d tell me to piss off if I told him to stay in because people of his age belong indoors.

Leaffrog · 01/01/2023 15:12

I’m sorry for your loss OP.

The lack of any balance or measured thinking on this thread is unbelievable. It’s not a case of lockdown or nothing. I had hoped that a positive from Covid would have been a cultural shift towards more basic hygiene and considering others when you’re coughing etc. ….. w h e r e p r a c t i c a b l e.

For example, I am one of those charmingly named by a pp WFH fuckers whose employer proved it could operate that way and now work hybrid. If I or a colleague is Ill but can still work, or has flu like symptoms, we WFH. This works for us. We can do so. So why wouldn’t we? This does not mean that I don’t understand that this is not possible or practicable for whatever reason for all. Or indeed for many. Of course! That much is obvious but this black and white thinking sounds ridiculous.

And basic things like covering your mouth if you cough, reduce the risks, be considerate and hygienic costs nothing. Does it? As someone with long covid symptoms no I don’t expect anyone to lock themself away, to be forced to wear masks, to isolate, or whatever, but I would appreciate very basic consideration and people just doing what they reasonably can. Actually, to me, that is my interpretation of living alongside covid.

RosaMoline · 01/01/2023 15:12

DisapointedSister · 01/01/2023 14:29

What is this visceral reaction? I’m not advocating for lockdowns here but it’s literally airborne. Of course it’s going to mutate constantly. The same way the cold and flu do. Yes there is a new variant. So what? Don’t get your panties in a bunch over it dear.

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You said there has been a new variant detected in China. As if this was a fact. At this present time, there IS NOT a new variant (at the moment) so stop spreading misinformation and causing fear mongering please.

HisNameWasMike · 01/01/2023 15:12

BadShepherd · 01/01/2023 15:09

BasicBecky up there needs to understand that not everyone lives in a filthy hellhole and uses public transport to go to bars to get drunk like a student. Poor BasicBecky sounds very cross - she should probably get someone around for a set of acrylics - will cheer her right up.

Another very furious little person!

In addition to not liking chardonnay, I don't have acrylics. Sorry to disappoint.

Filthy hellhole?? Are you OK? 🤣🤣

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 01/01/2023 15:13

BadShepherd · 01/01/2023 15:09

BasicBecky up there needs to understand that not everyone lives in a filthy hellhole and uses public transport to go to bars to get drunk like a student. Poor BasicBecky sounds very cross - she should probably get someone around for a set of acrylics - will cheer her right up.

Oh but we're all Karens who drink Tesco Chardonnay (vom). How can we be expected to understand the wonderfulness of her life and what we're stopping her from enjoying because we don't want the bus window open? (anyone else slightly surprised she even knows what a bus is?)

IDontCareMatthew · 01/01/2023 15:13

LondonCat7 · 01/01/2023 15:06

If individuals want to meet up and break the rules, I hope they are dealt with with the full force of the law.

The next lockdown will need to be properly enforced with use of the army where necessary.

Ahh you're on a wind up!

Sent from Tattle?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/01/2023 15:14

Cuppasoupmonster · 01/01/2023 13:43

Having a birthday dinner at someone's home is about 90% of the experience of having it in the pub. The birthday person gets their dinner cooked for them (or takeaway ordered in), they see their loved ones, socialise, get out of their own home, but no, they just have to go to the pub and put others at risk because they want exactly what they want

Anyone else laugh reading that? How dare anyone want to do anything outside of their own home. Go to the zoo? Just buy some soft toys and watch a David Attenborough. Swimming? Just fill the bath. Nightclub? Just turn the lights off and turn up Heart FM and have a good dance in the living room. Fuck me, I’m beginning to think this is all one big cover story for agoraphobics.

I haven't read the full thread yet but I'm waiting to be told we can socialise on Zoom, we don't need to meet up!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 01/01/2023 15:14

I haven't read the full thread yet but I'm waiting to be told we can socialise on Zoom, we don't need to meet up!

Foreverrrrrrrrrr!

User1785498 · 01/01/2023 15:15

There are loads of wind ups on here today, probably because of the holidays, loads on covid

SirMingeALot · 01/01/2023 15:17

Newlifestartingatlast · 01/01/2023 14:44

I love this rewriting of history that lockdowns, masks, and vaccines don’t work

they do. Yes, it didn’t stop covid . But they prevented a far bigger number of people dying globally and being disabled with long covid. We can see that in any data published globally by reputable sources. Despite the internet conspiracy theorists.

it’s like saying chemo therepy doesn’t work - people have it and yet still die. Yes, it is not 100% effective, nor is it clos3 to that . But it still saves lives or even given where best outcome is to lengthens peoples lives. So, we give it routinely to anyone we think it could be beneficial for. We don’t question that even though is way more expensive and invasive than what we could do to reduce covid and even flu infections.

I am not advocating lock downs. But mask wearing is really not an issue when infection rates locally are high. Testing if it was free, would be helpful in ensuring people took precautions like wfh when infected. air filtration in public buildings would make a big difference. It is about political will - covid is an inconvenience to the conservatives- it is linked to party gate, squandered money, corruption with contracts- of course they want to go “move along here, nothing to see”

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Rather unfortunate that you talk about rewriting history then add something that hadn't previously been cited, vaccines, into the subdiscussion.

Of the things actually mentioned, the majority, which apparently I have to explain isn't the same as all, have failed. Isolation rules didn't prevent Omicron from ripping through the population, not least because they werent being observed and couldn't be enforced. The Kent variant came about in late 2020 at the same time as rule of six, local tiers and indoor hospitality restrictions. Lockdown 'works' in the sense of reducing contacts, when the state funds it and the population want to go along with it, but as neither of those things are applicable then we might as well talk about what would happen if we had a time machine to close the Wuhan wet market/lab.

Ultimately, none of the things originally listed are simple and when people say that, it just means they personally won't be lumbered with any of the downsides. Most have failed, and all are unworkable in the UK. Restrictions require a population who are willing and able to play ball. We don't have this, and no amount of foolish chemo analogies or claims that masks aren't a big deal will alter that.

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 15:17

DisapointedSister · 01/01/2023 14:29

What is this visceral reaction? I’m not advocating for lockdowns here but it’s literally airborne. Of course it’s going to mutate constantly. The same way the cold and flu do. Yes there is a new variant. So what? Don’t get your panties in a bunch over it dear.

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Your reaction about telling others to calm down is usually what people do when caught out for not knowing facts.

LondonCat7 · 01/01/2023 15:18

I would encourage anyone to read this tweet from Dr Clarke and explain why this situation is preferable to sensible precautions like the rule of 6 or social distancing.

In 14 years as a doctor I’ve never known such horrific conditions. Patients dying on trolleys with zero dignity. Or screaming & moaning in corridors. Dickensian overcrowding, total implosion. Despair. Weeping staff. Abject misery.

Do you care at all @Jeremy_Hunt? @SteveBarclay?

twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1608898709735215104?s=46&t=C9qB9Xea2s7bslTYRJL7BQ

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/01/2023 15:18

Funnywonder · 01/01/2023 14:55

You do realise many people are asymptomatic? What are they supposed to do?

People who are asymptomatic are much, much less likely to spread a virus. Is that not pretty widely known?

My post was in response to someone saying people going out when they have covid have no moral compass or similar shite. I just wondered what the asymptomatic should do

SirMingeALot · 01/01/2023 15:20

HisNameWasMike · 01/01/2023 15:10

Oh come on now, first rule of trolling is don't peak too soon. You've got to remain just on the side of believable.

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Yeah, it's not satisfying for anyone when they blow their beans too soon.

Cuppasoupmonster · 01/01/2023 15:20

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sst1234 · 01/01/2023 15:23

SalYPimienta · 01/01/2023 14:42

A lot of people are just thick. Yes, they might be able to go in and out of other people's homes or go for a walk, but if businesses are closed and restrictions are placed on things like travel, then their freedoms are vastly curtailed.

Can't wait for my life to be destroyed again because Karen can't possibly wear a face mask round Waitrose or open a window on the bus.

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Here we have it. The ‘be kind’ brigade shelled itself for what it is. Calling women ‘Karen’.

These compassionate progressives are the same. Misogynists in plain sight.

SirMingeALot · 01/01/2023 15:25

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I think all these peasants scum are going out coughing on each other on purpose to keep you from your glam jetsetting.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 01/01/2023 15:25

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 15:23

Here we have it. The ‘be kind’ brigade shelled itself for what it is. Calling women ‘Karen’.

These compassionate progressives are the same. Misogynists in plain sight.

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Absolutely.

People who whine on about Karen really don’t see how fucking thick and sexist they sound? I’m completely embarrassed on their behalf

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 01/01/2023 15:26

*Here we have it. The ‘be kind’ brigade shelled itself for what it is. Calling women ‘Karen’.

These compassionate progressives are the same. Misogynists in plain sight*

Doesn't take long for the thin veneer of compassion to wear off with people like this, does it?

SalYPimienta · 01/01/2023 15:27

sst1234 · 01/01/2023 15:23

Here we have it. The ‘be kind’ brigade shelled itself for what it is. Calling women ‘Karen’.

These compassionate progressives are the same. Misogynists in plain sight.

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I'm certainly not in any "be kind" brigade. I like common sense and logic and I dislike thick, selfish people. I'd love it if they were all blasted into outer space so the rest of us could live in peace, without being sneezed and coughed on.

SalYPimienta · 01/01/2023 15:28

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MarshaBradyo · 01/01/2023 15:30

SalYPimienta · 01/01/2023 15:27

I'm certainly not in any "be kind" brigade. I like common sense and logic and I dislike thick, selfish people. I'd love it if they were all blasted into outer space so the rest of us could live in peace, without being sneezed and coughed on.

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Stay home if coughs upset you. There’s not much else you can do about it.

DisapointedSister · 01/01/2023 15:31

RosaMoline · 01/01/2023 15:12

You said there has been a new variant detected in China. As if this was a fact. At this present time, there IS NOT a new variant (at the moment) so stop spreading misinformation and causing fear mongering please.

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So a new variant out of the uncountable number of new variants is fear mongering now? At this rate it’s not even news anymore. If that strikes fear into your heart I can’t imagine what it must be like for you to check the weather daily before you leave for work. 😂😂😂😂

HisNameWasMike · 01/01/2023 15:31

Yeah, it's not satisfying for anyone when they blow their beans too soon

Blow their beans 🤣🤣 I've never heard that before, I now need to say it in real life as many times as possible 🤣