Why am I so ill despite being fully vaccinated

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I have tested positive for Covid and I have never felt so ill. I do not have any underlying health conditions, so why do I feel so unwell if I have had all my vaccines?

@IEatChocolateForBreakfast crikey you sound lovely. Unvaccinated family wandering around spreading Covid without a care.

Christ there are some idiots on this thread. Probably the same geniuses who look out of the window when it's snowing and conclude that global warming isn't happening.

clarkkentsglasses

So how come I am unvaccinated and had no symptoms. Yet my friend who is 5x jabbed is sick as a dog with it twice.

If your friend has had 5 jabs, presuming they are in the UK, they will have severe medical conditions that put them at extreme risk of hospitalisation/death if they contract Covid. Only people in that category received 4 jabs. To have already received the additional, fifth, booster, they must be considered to be at utmost risk. Most people have not yet received their 4th appointment.

Instead of being ill twice, without the vaccinations your friend may well have died.

It's very frustrating. I'm CEV & triple jabbed. Am on my second round of covid now - exhausted, brain fog & a covid cough now too.

I'm pleased that I'm not ill enough to be hospitalised, but annoyed that I feel so rough.

I've also had heart issues (under investigation) in the last few months, which I'm wondering if they're linked to covid/vaccine. Probably not, but who knows?

@XenoBitch

Why is it that anyone who had no/minimal symptoms who happens to not be vaccinated gets shitty comments?

That's an interesting reading of the thread @XenoBitch!

People get frustrated comments directed towards them when they think their own personal anecdotes trump robust evidence collected from 10,000s of people.

I'm happy for anyone with mild symptoms, whether they are vaccinated or not, but it's silly to say things along the lines of "WELL I'm unvaccinated and fine, my friend's dog's owner had 5 vaccines and is on deaths door...that must mean vaccines don't work"

I’m surprised so many people have forgotten just how desperate we all were for a vaccine almost exactly two years ago.

I remain incredibly thankful. My CEV husband finally contracted Covid two weeks ago, minor symptoms and negative yesterday. Thank providence for the scientists who have given us the way out of this.

Given the health status of those who need the extra boosters, it’s very likely that many would have gone on to develop further issues, with or without Covid vaccinations.

I think maybe the current variant (BA.2) is a bit worse than the original Omicron variant? The people I know who have it now seem to be (on average) sicker than those who had Omicron back in Dec/Jan (although not ill enough to be hospitalised). Just an idea.

Every report I’ve read/heard has suggested it’s milder still.
That’s historically how viruses develop. They evolve to survive: ergo they really don’t want to kill their hosts.

@MrsSkylerWhite

Every report I’ve read/heard has suggested it’s milder still. That’s historically how viruses develop. They evolve to survive: ergo they really don’t want to kill their hosts.

technically a virus is only under selective pressure to not kill their host too quickly, rather than not kill them at all. And SARS-COV-2 in general is incredibly transmissible.

but yes haven't seen anything to suggest the newer variants are more virulent which is good

I was very ill with covid recently and still feel run down and with a cough that won’t go away 3 weeks later.

DS came home from school with a cold around October half term. DSis (who was visiting) and I both got it. Both repeatedly had negative covid tests. Dsis (who has a chronic health condition) was off work for a week and knocked out by it, I was poorly but able to WFH. We both had a bad cough for over a month and we both infected other people in that time. They were all negative for covid. It's normal for a cold to cause a lingering cough, why would you expect a novel coronavirus to be any different?

@Beecham just adhering to the government guidance. Plenty of other vaccinated people on the threads on here also stating they have no longer been isolating if they felt fine. What difference does it make to you if I'm vaccinated or not?

I think it's as mild / milder in terms of hospitalisations, yes. But maybe worse in terms of just feeling rubbish?

leafyygreens

MrsSkylerWhite
Every report I’ve read/heard has suggested it’s milder still.
That’s historically how viruses develop. They evolve to survive: ergo they really don’t want to kill their hosts.
technically a virus is only under selective pressure to not kill their host too quickly, rather than not kill them at all. And SARS-COV-2 in general is incredibly transmissible.

but yes haven't seen anything to suggest the newer variants are more virulent which is good“

Happily bowing to your greater knowledge whilst still [optimistically] feeling that the only way is up 🤞

@MrsSkylerWhite

Every report I’ve read/heard has suggested it’s milder still. That’s historically how viruses develop. They evolve to survive: ergo they really don’t want to kill their hosts.

They don't necessarily evolve to be milder. It can happen, but you can't assume that. They evolve to spread more-so for example a longer period of infectiousness before symptoms appear would do that. They don't care whether they kill their hosts once they've infected them. In Spanish flu the worst wave for deaths was the second I believe.

There is some debate as to whether the omicron variant is actually milder. The thought is that it probably isn't, however because more people have either had vaccinations or had the illness before, both of which tend to make a new infection milder, which means that it does appear to be milder.

@PaperTyger

So many variables including viral load

That's why so many medics died because they were exposed to very high viral loads.

I think this is the key possibly. Depends how you contracted it and how much is in your system .

[quote Beecham]@IEatChocolateForBreakfast crikey you sound lovely. Unvaccinated family wandering around spreading Covid without a care.

Christ there are some idiots on this thread. Probably the same geniuses who look out of the window when it's snowing and conclude that global warming isn't happening.[/quote]
Unvaccinated people are not all Covid positive. What a stupid statement. The vaccines seem to be doing nothing to stop transmissibility .

@UnaOfStormhold

It's like a lottery with two ball machines. Both contain asymptomatic cases, mild illness, serious illness and death. But one machine has more of the worse outcomes and fewer good.

This is such a good way of putting it. The lottery machine for vaccinated people has fewer 'death' and 'serious illness' balls to be pulled out than the lottery machine for unvaccinated people. You still get some of each outcome from each lottery machine, just more of the bad ones from the unvaccinated machine.

Some very bitter old jabbed people here! Think a raw nerve has been hit 😂

I'm double jabbed (refused booster) and had a heavy cold for a few days same as my unvaccinated DH, teens, brother, SIL.

FIL and MIl, triple jabbed and were unfortunately very poorly and my other triple jabbed 32 YO SIL has long Covid and periods not returned.

There are also many variants
I’m fully jabbed and managed to escape covid until last week
I’ve been quite poorly but also asthmatic and immunity compromised
DS had it milder 8 weeks ago but that could have been a different variant - and I didn’t catch it then either

Unjabbed, had Covid about 6 weeks ago, felt achey and had a banging headache for 3 days, took aspirin and I was fine by day 5. I'm also CV. I've had worse colds.

I had it and felt really ill. I think some sections of the media and the government would have us believe it's not really serious but it is serious for some people. Yes I do think it's partly luck how you react but it annoys me when I read it's a mild illness when it isn't for some.

I think a lot also depends on your own immune system. I don't know if there's any correlation between those reacting to vaccines when they had them and what symptoms they've had when infected, and those of us who didn't react to the jab. I didn't react to the vaccine - I'm triple-jabbed.

I'm currently on day 9 of testing positive, and were it not for testing, I'd have assumed my hayfever was a bit bad (and it probably was also a bit of that.) I'm still coughing occasionally, but mostly I'm fine. The guy I caught it from spent 4 days in bed and is still snotty, and he tested positive 3 days ahead of me.

But I have a pretty robust immune system, I think, despite technically being CV. I often miss colds which are going round. When I got glandular fever, I was bad for a week, whereas a couple of schoolfriends missed several weeks off school. I wasn't as bad with a sickness bug as my housemates in one of my shared houses at university, either. I had about 3 days off school sick in my entire school career. So I just think my body is good at fighting things off, which is possibly partly genetic (I don't remember my parents getting ill, either,) and others aren't so lucky, vaccinated or not.

I was the same OP and had ongoing fatigue for two and half weeks afterwards. I hope you start to feel better really soon!

@Tribyki

Some very bitter old jabbed people here! Think a raw nerve has been hit 😂

I'm double jabbed (refused booster) and had a heavy cold for a few days same as my unvaccinated DH, teens, brother, SIL.

FIL and MIl, triple jabbed and were unfortunately very poorly and my other triple jabbed 32 YO SIL has long Covid and periods not returned.

That's all anecdotal though isn't it? Factually/statistically a greater percentage of unvaccinated people are ending up in hospital, than vaccinated.

Agree with @AnIckabog: those who have it now are pretty ill!

Main reasons:

• boosters much less effective against symptoms after 10-12 weeks (lots of studies)
• the vaccines were designed for alpha, we are now several variants later
• new deltacron variant seems to cause worse symptoms

OP: do you have family/friends looking after you & do you have a pulse oximeter?

I’m just recovering from Covid: infected Feb 28, tested positive 3 days later, pretty ill for 2 weeks (including breathlessness which I’ve never had before), chills, sweats, extreme fatigue, headache for 3 weeks

Was having to lie down and rest after having a shower, exhausted after 2-3 min phone calls etc: it was quite worrying

I’m just now able to start getting back to my normal activity (work, chores) 5 weeks later. Not able to exercise yet. Before this I’d had precisely 4 days off work in 20 years, so I’m no hypochondriac.

My sister & Brother in law (who I caught it from) both signed off work for 6 weeks, another relative still too fatigued to work 8 weeks later. Cousins were in bed for 2 weeks etc .,,, this is what Covid is unfortunately

I will be taking measures to avoid getting it again : 40% of employees where I work
(Desk job/not public facing/hybrid) have had it Dec-March. Terrible for business, terrible for people, & terrible for parents who are too unwell to look after kids

I do the ONS blood samples who have said my antibodies are at a higher level (blood taken about two weeks ago).

I have now got covid (on day 3) and am feeling quite poorly. Like a very heavy cold but also feeling sick.