On course for another lockdown?

[TalkToTheHand123]

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

I reckon OP is just poking the bear for the lols.

sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

This is the study

What lockdown fanatics do now though is discredit the study. Standard.

There are multiple studies questioning the effectiveness of lockdowns, not one that can make claim to the effectiveness of lockdown. Somehow the default is ‘lockdowns must work’ when there is no evidence for that at all.

Strange old world

[quote toomuchlaundry]@SickAndTiredAgain your mum is probably in the minority most teachers I know who have had COVID recently have been too ill to teach[/quote]
Oh I’m not saying she’s typical and that teachers barely notice being ill with it. Just that I don’t think comparisons to flu are that useful - it’s not that surprising it’s having more of an effect when you have to be off even if not ill.

Give it a fucking rest

Ask Google to tell you the average age of those that died of Covid.....70 and only 17,000 deaths.
Sweden did not do lockdown and have the same figures.
So there is no point, we need to be sensible, mask up if we are worried and work through this without panic and hysterics.

I don't think so. There are more covid cases in my son's school than there have ever been. We're not going back to "bubbles" and we're still have weekly whole school assemblies. We've been told to learn to live with covid, and that is what the school are doing.

No because frankly it’s too expensive and pointless.
The cost of everything is rising there is no furlough, people aren’t getting paid in some places now for isolating. The even thought of a lockdown is laughable , their will be no lockdown as no financial support get used to it .

@Orchidsonthetable

No of course not op, you know the answer to this already right?

For the overwhelming majority of people this is at worst a bad cold. It’s now treated like the flu. As a society we carry on, ans yes like flu it’s dangerous for some and deadly for others.

You know we aren’t locking down. You simply cannot have missed how this has evolved.

That is only because of the current variant. That was NOT the case in the beginning.

We have a vaccinated population and lots of treatments that are effective at every stage.

if we counted the flu figures, we would not lock down,
i read that there are currently more people dying from flu

My dd school has shifted to one day home working a week, as they have too many staff absences and can't source supply.

I can see this being the model in managing operational pressures, as we're looking at a roughly quarterly surge in cases combining with waning vaccine immunity.

In short, this is what living with covid looks like, still very few younger people in hospital and covid kills around 2/3 more people than flu (mostly older, mostly with dnr), and its year round.

So no, lockdowns arent a workable strategy longterm, I'd like to still see testing freely available because it's flooring people - but as that's deemed too expensive too, so open windows and hand sanitiser it is!

No. Lockdowns don’t work against omicron anyway so it would be pointless even if it was necessary, look at places like Hong Kong and China.

No because government are doing what they always wanted to do, which is achieved 'herd immunity' with the added bonus (to them) of killing off the vulnerable. I do wonder what they will do if it mutates into a more dangerous variant though. Probably blame refugees

Not in a million years, no. Now testing sites have largely been closed down and free tests won't be available soon we won't have a clue how many people have it anyway.

Death figures are on ONS so easy to check covid vs flu/pneumonia.

@shrunkenhead

No way! I couldn't go through that again. Like a pp said we're taking extra people into our homes and just cracking on with life now. No need to test, self isolate, stay off work etc just as it is with the common cold.

This isn't actually true though is it. There's no legal obligation but you are still very much advised to isolate and avoid social contact if you have covid.

it is not herd immunity,
it is vaccinations and treatments together with isolation if positive, not in case of catching

No, it won’t happen. As LFTs aren’t picking up Omicron cases in the first few days even with symptoms, there’s not even much point in isolation any more.
Masks if you have any symptoms at all wouldn’t be a bad idea but we’re not that kind of society so that won’t happen either.

people are free to fly into and out of this country
of course there is no lock down on the cards -
why would you even suggest it?

@devildeepbluesea

Christ, some people are desperate for this never to end aren’t they.

More like some people seem to think covid has ended. News flash, it hasn't.

Local hospitals have cancelled elective surgery & effectively A&E (only life & death cases).

Local numbers are now the highest they've ever been & NO mitigations, it's political not scientific, the lifting of all restrictions.

No. We now have a such a high level of immunity in the general population that the negative effects of lockdown outweighs its benefits.

IT'S JUST A COLD NOW

Well no, it's not, not for everyone and particularly not for the CEV. I currently have it for the fifth time and it's the worst one yet. A cold this is not.

However

There won't be any more lockdowns and thank fuck for that. I'm CEV and seem to be a covid magnet but seriously, fuck that noise.

Cases have increased due to the transmissibility of the dominant Omicron sub variant. However this will peak soon if it hasn't already, just as it did over Christmas, then numbers will come down again.

Surely the virus is one up from a mere sniff for most now. As is usual for pandemics the virus mutates to become more infectious but way less deadly.

@hamstersarse

sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

This is the study

What lockdown fanatics do now though is discredit the study. Standard.

There are multiple studies questioning the effectiveness of lockdowns, not one that can make claim to the effectiveness of lockdown. Somehow the default is ‘lockdowns must work’ when there is no evidence for that at all.

Strange old world

gh.bmj.com/content/6/8/e006653

There will not ne another lockdown. It however did work when the disease was novel.

@PotteringAlong

We don’t need a lockdown. Hospitalisations are low, death rates are low.

They ve gone up 30% to 13000.... my local hospital had 2 covid wards at xmas, now it has 5, many more shut.

All our boosters are becoming less effective & previous infections don't stop you getting it again :(

But no, there wont be another LD, maybe a return to masks and or more SD measures next winter but nothing now.