On course for another lockdown?

[TalkToTheHand123]

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

[quote Lolaqp]**@Waxonwaxoff0* @duvetdayforeveryone* @TypicaIMe

if the posters responding with their own experiences were decision makers for the country then yes it would be selfish to make a decision for everyone purely based on their own self-interest.

But they aren't. So quite honestly your posts are hysterical!

For a person to wish that things were a certain way because you have a loved one at risk - is not selfish.

It's completely OTT and manipulative to start quoting back horrendous child abuse cases to people who have fears for their loved ones with restrictions being lifted.

The restrictions ARE LIFTED and you're bashing these people who are afraid.

And I'm sorry but you have clearly demonstrated that it's perfectly ok for you to shut down opinions that you don't like but accuse others of doing the same for taking a balanced view.

You're just making it so that people can't speak up about their fears and that's is not nice, kind, whatever.[/quote]
I haven't called anyone selfish or mentioned child abuse anywhere, nor have I shut down anyone's opinion. It's the "be kind" bullshit that I'm fed up with. Women don't have to shut up and be kind all the time, deal with it.

@HesterShaw1

This really does sound like a statistic plucked from the rear end of a rodent.

It was the conclusion of John Hopkins University research and was widely reported a few weeks ago. Just because you didn't know about it, it doesn't mean it was plucked out of the rear end of a rodent.

Was that the conclusion of the research? Someone else, quoting the same research, gave the figure of a 10% reduction in infection.

@millytint44

It's JUST A COLD NOW!!!!

Is it? I'll tell the 250,000 people in the uk with blood cancer that shall I? They will be pleased

@bellac11 if you are going to myth bust then at least be accurate. Long COVID, if defined as symptoms ongoing after 12 weeks, is far, far more prevalent than long flu. I don't have the organ damage figures for flu but I suspect they're much smaller too. Variants of flu have been around for a long time, I'm sure when it was a novel virus it did more damage. Coronavirus 19 is novel now so it is more dangerous and does more damage now.

Not unless we get some monster variation that turns out to be vaccine-proof and starts killing in large numbers.

Although, under Queen Nicola of Govan, we might well end up with some sort of lockdown. She'll do anything to be different to England.

Apologies for upsetting so many. Some of the less-kind responses on here have been more than punishment enough for me. Thank you to those who have been kind and/or tolerant.

My mum follows a particular religion to a fanatical degree (that's fine, it's entirely her choice). It was a religious retreat that she was "strongly encouraged" by the organisers to attend. Were it not associated with her religion she would not have gone on the trip.

Anyway, I was expressing a personal view, in no way a suggestion or desire that the entire country should be locked down for the sake of one person. I am sorry to have provoked such anger or frustration for some people.

Best wishes to you all.

No. This is life now.

The post I was responding to, said there is no such thing as long cold, that is not true

The prevelance is different because of the numbers who have covid compared to flu over the past 2 years, however all viruses carry that risk.

There are also different ways to measure long covid, someone reporting this and that symptom on an app is not valid in my opinion due to the bias that some might have in exacerbating their symptoms or who have symptoms they might not have noticed or paid much attention to before but now are considering that they are long covid

I have had this personally, doctors trying to fob off problems that I already had before which werent investigated properly as 'long covid' no they arent! I am highly suspicious of the stats on this matter

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@REP22

Apologies for upsetting so many. Some of the less-kind responses on here have been more than punishment enough for me. Thank you to those who have been kind and/or tolerant.

My mum follows a particular religion to a fanatical degree (that's fine, it's entirely her choice). It was a religious retreat that she was "strongly encouraged" by the organisers to attend. Were it not associated with her religion she would not have gone on the trip.

Anyway, I was expressing a personal view, in no way a suggestion or desire that the entire country should be locked down for the sake of one person. I am sorry to have provoked such anger or frustration for some people.

Best wishes to you all.

Well you did say that yo wished the country would lock down and you seem to be presenting your mother as some sort of victim despite her having agency (I presume, unless you are suggesting she is being coerced)

Its not 'unkind' to tell you that.

I think the Swedes had it sussed right from the beginning, once they got a grip on the care home issue

We don’t even legally have to isolate. Everyone, who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated. And I speak as someone, who cannot have another vaccine due to difficult and long lasting side effects.

If a more virulent strain comes along, the government may think again.

Yes you can get 'long cold', in the same way you can get 'long flu', people just dont seem to know this. I have been left with long term symptoms from a cold many years ago and the same thing happened around 30 years ago too. Colds, flu and covid are all related to the same virus.

This is true, but some viruses are more prone to causing post-viral issues than others (eg glandular fever being a well known example). Covid does seem to be particularly prone to causing post viral problems.

Not that I’m saying we should lockdown or anything because of long covid but the pandemic has clearly caused a huge surge in people experiencing post viral problems of various degrees of severity.

I know cases are a lot higher but I don’t think our economy could take another lockdown. I have been wearing my mask a lot more when I go to public spaces though

Women don't have to shut up and be kind all the time, deal with it

Amen.

Particularly when we're being told to 'be kind by someone who tells us we're hysterical and tells us we've said things we haven't, @Lolaqp.

@FavouriteFortnight

Yes you can get 'long cold', in the same way you can get 'long flu', people just dont seem to know this. I have been left with long term symptoms from a cold many years ago and the same thing happened around 30 years ago too. Colds, flu and covid are all related to the same virus.

This is true, but some viruses are more prone to causing post-viral issues than others (eg glandular fever being a well known example). Covid does seem to be particularly prone to causing post viral problems.

Not that I’m saying we should lockdown or anything because of long covid but the pandemic has clearly caused a huge surge in people experiencing post viral problems of various degrees of severity.

Again I repeat, Im not saying that covid doesnt, Im saying that colds do, something which needed to be corrected as another poster was denying that colds cause this.

We will probably have to wear masks for the next ten years.

I was expressing a personal view, in no way a suggestion or desire that the entire country should be locked down

@REP22

I don't think there will be another imminent lockdown, but I wish there would be

That's exactly what you said.

No, it won't happen.

@TypicaIMe I tagged 3 people in my post. You need to get a grip. If you can dish it out then don't act so incredulous when you get it back!

@PferdeMerde

Have things died down in Ukraine that we're back to covid scaremongering?

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@TalkToTheHand123

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

I'm guessing you're Welsh and work in the public sector 😁

I’m in Denmark - a very cautious country in many ways and here they have made it clear that it will wax and wane but lockdowns won’t stop it— all we can do is vaccinate and hope for the best. My father in law is 82 and lockdown is the last thing he wants and he’s had covid— as he says he might not have many years left so would rather enjoy life and take the risk and he thinks it’s very unfair on younger people

I would not support another lockdown in the current circumstances, the economic effects, effects on education, mental health and non Covid diseases are far too high. Mortality would have to increase significantly for my mind to change.

@TalkToTheHand123

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

That's the government figure. I understand from the Zoe app stats that the government figures are often a third or quarter of the true number.

There will be no lockdown. Fewer people are dying or being seriously ill. The plan is to let it ride and the population will get immunity from (mainly) mild symptoms.