Anyone else done now?

[VeryMuchSo13]

Know I'll get slated but I'm so past caring.

Anyone else just completely done with it now? Ran out of LFTs ages ago and I'll never do another again, wouldn't even go for a PCR now with symptoms tbh. I'd stay in until I felt better like I do with everything else and then crack on.

The only reason I wear masks in shops is because of people moaning if you don't. As soon as it's no longer required that'll be in the bin.

I actually took it really seriously the past two years and did everything we were supposed to. Triple jabbed etc etc... But I can't be arsed giving it anymore headspace now. I'm sick of hearing about it, sick of seeing it on the news, sick of people talking about it.

From today on I highly doubt I'll ever voluntarily think about Covid again, in a way that restricts anything I do anyway.

Yes OP. I'm with you. DONE.

Also trying to figure out what @bluetongue said that was racist? Can anyone shed any light?

The post upthread wasn't racist and I reported the post that said it was

@Tealightsandd

Anyhow forget France (who are at least trying to mitigate). Lose the western centric focus and look East.

I'm off to enjoy the rest of my evening. 😷

I'm happy with my focus on the country I live in

France terrifies me.

Today does feel different - hardly any masks in the supermarket!

I do understand and sympathise wilt the "I'm done with it" viewpoint but surely this is not the way to come out of a pandemic. It was supposed to be all about following the science, saving the NHS, flattening the sombrero and saving granny - not we will come together as a nation fight this pandemic well at least until " we are fed up with it".

Covid has not gone away. It either is or is not a serious risk. If it is a serious risk then it seems massively selfish to say to the vulnerable and elderly and others that " yeah I know it's a risk and some of you will die but you know we are a bit fed up with all the inconveniences so you're on your own". Imagine a doctor giving up on a patient simply because the illness went on too long and they got fed up with it. Also if this is the "accepted" approach of looking after the majority at the expense of the minority then why not do it from the very start.

If Covid is not a serious risk then again then why not take this approach of no restrictions from the start.

In history previous pandemics ended when they naturally burnt out or loads of people died not because people got a bit fed up with it.

I feel quite sad that if this truly is how the Covid pandemic ends then the world has pointlessly just lost two years, thousands of lives, children's education/ futures and billions and billions of money.

@1dayatatime

I do understand and sympathise wilt the "I'm done with it" viewpoint but surely this is not the way to come out of a pandemic. It was supposed to be all about following the science, saving the NHS, flattening the sombrero and saving granny - not we will come together as a nation fight this pandemic well at least until " we are fed up with it".

Covid has not gone away. It either is or is not a serious risk. If it is a serious risk then it seems massively selfish to say to the vulnerable and elderly and others that " yeah I know it's a risk and some of you will die but you know we are a bit fed up with all the inconveniences so you're on your own". Imagine a doctor giving up on a patient simply because the illness went on too long and they got fed up with it. Also if this is the "accepted" approach of looking after the majority at the expense of the minority then why not do it from the very start.

If Covid is not a serious risk then again then why not take this approach of no restrictions from the start.

In history previous pandemics ended when they naturally burnt out or loads of people died not because people got a bit fed up with it.

I feel quite sad that if this truly is how the Covid pandemic ends then the world has pointlessly just lost two years, thousands of lives, children's education/ futures and billions and billions of money.

We did not have vaccines at the start. That is why restrictions were needed at the start. The vaccines are now doing their job at preventing death and serious illness for most.

And let's not pretend that restrictions were ever to protect the vulnerable anyway. As if the Tories give two hoots about that. They were to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed.

You can be done with it but still be aware of everything that has happened up to this point.
Nobody is going to forget this, it has been the most awful couple of years. Everyone has been impacted some in more ways than others, it has changed people mentally.
Everyone has their own individual limit as to what they'll put up with before they say enough.

@Justenuff

And particularly f*cking done with the constant running total number of Covid deaths when we are losing far far more people to cancer/heart disease etc and lots of those will be needless deaths that have happened and yet to happen BECAUSE of the sodding obsession with Covid. Really angry about that.

Me too. I know of one person who is dying of cancer because the GP wouldn’t see him during lockdown and it was diagnosed far too late.

@1dayatatime

I do understand and sympathise wilt the "I'm done with it" viewpoint but surely this is not the way to come out of a pandemic. It was supposed to be all about following the science, saving the NHS, flattening the sombrero and saving granny - not we will come together as a nation fight this pandemic well at least until " we are fed up with it".

Covid has not gone away. It either is or is not a serious risk. If it is a serious risk then it seems massively selfish to say to the vulnerable and elderly and others that " yeah I know it's a risk and some of you will die but you know we are a bit fed up with all the inconveniences so you're on your own". Imagine a doctor giving up on a patient simply because the illness went on too long and they got fed up with it. Also if this is the "accepted" approach of looking after the majority at the expense of the minority then why not do it from the very start.

If Covid is not a serious risk then again then why not take this approach of no restrictions from the start.

In history previous pandemics ended when they naturally burnt out or loads of people died not because people got a bit fed up with it.

I feel quite sad that if this truly is how the Covid pandemic ends then the world has pointlessly just lost two years, thousands of lives, children's education/ futures and billions and billions of money.

Vaccines have changed the picture, otherwise we’d still be in very bad shape

Plus previous infection immunity, anti virals, treatments and a milder variant

Imagine a doctor giving up on a patient simply because the illness went on too long and they got fed up with it.

We're not doctors though. They have a duty to care. It's their job.

One of DH's relatives died of cancer in the space of two months last year because they just could not get a face to face GP appointment. By the time they did, after getting fobbed off on the phone many times he was sent for tests then offered palliative care.

It was supposed to be all about following the science, saving the NHS, flattening the sombrero and saving granny - not we will come together as a nation fight this pandemic well at least until " we are fed up with it"

I do understand that this is not how we saw it ending.

But what's the alternative? Covid isn't going anywhere. Are we supposed to keep this stuff up forever?

If Covid is not a serious risk then again then why not take this approach of no restrictions from the start.

With vaccines, better treatments and omicron, the incidence of serious disease and death has absolutely plummeted. We have to see that as a win (not least because it is one).

@Tealightsandd

That could be construed as rather racist Bluetongue (not to mention incredibly offensive to victims of genuine child abuse). If not racist, certainly very western centric.

So talking of concern for children. Does your 'concern' extend to those who are CV, or who have CV parents? Bereavement has a devastating effect on children - with sometimes extremely tragic consequences (as can be seen in the case I linked above).

The post about making toddlers? It could only be construed as racist if you're on glue.

Imagine a doctor giving up on a patient simply because the illness went on too long and they got fed up with it.

Medics give up on people all the time, perhaps because the cure is worse than the disease or because the cost of treatment is too high.

It's a sad fact of life that we will all die and we cannot guarantee people their three score and ten (though the expectation nowadays seems much higher than that).

I done. DONE.

My SIL can't understand why we aren't locking down for the rest of this year.
She doesn't think schools should be open or we should be mixing..... she doesn't have kids!

@Justwingingit2005

I done. DONE.

My SIL can't understand why we aren't locking down for the rest of this year.
She doesn't think schools should be open or we should be mixing..... she doesn't have kids!

Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey.

I would not be able to converse with such a person.

OK I get that vaccines have radically changed the picture. And at risk of getting all conspiracy theory I still don't get the Number 10 drinks breeches of regulations thing.

In April/ May 2020 when no one was vaccinated and the whole country was scared shitless of dying from Covid, there was not one but numerous regulation breaking and unsafe drinks parties across all parts of Government. Yet no one in Government seemed to see this as a risk to their health - why? Even Dominic Cummings objections to the 20th May party of over 100 people was not on health risk grounds but on how it would look politically.

Did all these politicians and civil servants really and truly have some ch scant regard for their own safety that they prioritised a piss up over losing their lives. Or did they know something the public didn't, namely that it wasn't as dangerous as they had convinced (and scared shit less) the public that it was.

Yep done.
We had a cold last week did the bloody lfts as per instructions etc all neg. Carry on as normal, bloody friend was saying - ooh you need to swab your throat now etc etc. I just though ohh you can piss off!!

I'm done, it's not the same virus it was, these precautions are unnecessary now. We dont isolate for flu each year!!

And beside, my kids mental health towards the end of last year was crap, this constant stop start at schools/clubs is doing them harm!

@AllisoninWunderland

Yep also done. Am inordinately happy that masks and passports are going in the bin next week. Only had one jab and never having anymore. Covid was very mild for me.

I’ve never been more happy to be in England though I feel so sad for those in Canada, NZ, Australia and parts of Europe to name but a few who must feel like we do but are still living under strict restrictions 😞

I am in Australia and happy as Larry don't you worry. Not bothered at all by restrictions. Save your pity for someone else. Wearing masks all day at work without complaint and making small changes in my life to keep more of us safe including me while still supporting businesses. Easier here though I guess for many reasons not least the lack of wild swings between shutting everything and going mental in night clubs...

I love the idea that everyone being "over it" will magically free up capacity to treat cancer etc. It will be the opposite. Unless your plan is just to let anyone who needs medical treatment with covid die on the pavement outside the hospital? It isn't the restrictions which have crippled the health care system. Its covid (and your incompetent government which has underfunded the NHS for years and blamed everyone else when it isn't working any more)

DS1 is not going to be WFH anymore as of 31/1 and I could not be happier for him. He can finally get out there and meet his work colleagues properly, as people in their early 20s should do. He is thrilled. DS2 has been picking his social life back up properly too, he's 19 he's missed out long enough.

Yet no one in Government seemed to see this as a risk to their health - why?

Because for most people it wasn't. The young and healthy were never at any great risk from covid. That was clear in the data right from the start.

However the messaging chose to dial up the fear on a personal level, because they knew that was how to drive compliance.

@Mrbob

We're not doctors though. They have a duty to care. It's their job

I do have a duty to care you are right. But I am also not a complete cunt

Good for you, and neither are people who are just trying their best to piece their lives back together and put their families first at long last. So what's your point?

@1dayatatime

OK I get that vaccines have radically changed the picture. And at risk of getting all conspiracy theory I still don't get the Number 10 drinks breeches of regulations thing.

In April/ May 2020 when no one was vaccinated and the whole country was scared shitless of dying from Covid, there was not one but numerous regulation breaking and unsafe drinks parties across all parts of Government. Yet no one in Government seemed to see this as a risk to their health - why? Even Dominic Cummings objections to the 20th May party of over 100 people was not on health risk grounds but on how it would look politically.

Did all these politicians and civil servants really and truly have some ch scant regard for their own safety that they prioritised a piss up over losing their lives. Or did they know something the public didn't, namely that it wasn't as dangerous as they had convinced (and scared shit less) the public that it was.

I can’t talk about parties as too much overload but yes the media and messaging was very effective in getting us to stay apart etc. Enforcement was low in U.K. but behaviour change tactics worked well. Even just having cases and deaths daily was part of it, and all the rest.