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Original poster

Illegal to sit in a park but ok to party on.

190 replies

Againstmachine · 12/01/2022 20:56

I am not sure if timelines align but nonetheless we had a government at beginning of the pandemic Made it illegal to sit in a park. Bubbles for single people were only introduced in may.

But in may it was ok to have a party.

Its sickening.

OP posts:
EmmaH2022 · 12/01/2022 22:44

I was so desperately lonely

I swear all this media talk, much as i try to ignore it, is giving me weird flashbacks.

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Againstmachine · 12/01/2022 23:06

Me too it nearly killed me, but these scumbags partying and everyone of them knew it was wrong.

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Wreath21 · 12/01/2022 23:10

It's clearer than ever that the Great Moral Panic was never about public health in the first place. I am terribly sorry for those who suffered because they were obedient and genuinely believed their suffering was necessary and would somehow 'save lives'.
Terrorizing and torturing the public was never going to do that much good while they continued to starve the NHS of funds and put obstacles in the way of every other potentially transmission-mitigating method.

JugglingJanuary · 12/01/2022 23:14

@Wreath21

It's clearer than ever that the Great Moral Panic was never about public health in the first place. I am terribly sorry for those who suffered because they were obedient and genuinely believed their suffering was necessary and would somehow 'save lives'. Terrorizing and torturing the public was never going to do that much good while they continued to starve the NHS of funds and put obstacles in the way of every other potentially transmission-mitigating method.
Of course it saved lives!!

The lockdown was the right thing to do, the public messaging was right.

Some people (possibly) not abiding by it, doesn't make it the wrong decision.

Wreath21 · 12/01/2022 23:20

No, it really was the wrong thing to do. It was a moral panic, backed by superstition and, in the case of a lot of governments and powerful people, an excellent opportunity to profiteer and seize power. In the case of more benign governments, it was more a matter of buying into the idea that you solve problems by punishment and control, and that if you don't make big pious gestures you don't 'care'...
It was never going to do more than defer the problem; it increased inequality and domestic violence... and didn't 'save' the poor and marginalised anyway, as they were still obliged to go out to work (with no PPE, and the general public being actively discouraged from wearing masks.)

EmmaH2022 · 12/01/2022 23:21

I agree Wreath

BeMoreGoldfish · 12/01/2022 23:23

@Wreath21 you really are talking shite.

Tiredout123 · 12/01/2022 23:28

[quote BeMoreGoldfish]@Wreath21 you really are talking shite.[/quote]
This /\

JessieLongleg · 12/01/2022 23:30

Lockdown started on my 40th and had to stay home as clubs had no choice to close and friends saw London as a no go area so had a take away! Didn't see my mum for nearly and year and only because she came to London for a hospital appointment. Lucky I have a neighbor I chat or would have spent most day totally chatting to myself.

InexperiencedDogOwner · 12/01/2022 23:32

I'm with @Wreath21

It just goes to show that if they were all not worried about the virus, despite having inside knowledge. If the virus was so dangerous they would have been locked away but they knew it wasn't and so they partied on

ShiftingSands21 · 12/01/2022 23:45

I think Wreath21 is making valid points.

Wreath21 · 12/01/2022 23:47

It's not that the virus wasn't/isn't dangerous. It's that so much of the rules imposed in the spring of 2020 were ridiculous puritan bullshit and the government knew this. They knew that socialising outdoors was very low-risk, but they encouraged the police to harass and threaten people for sitting down in parks. They knew that mask-wearing was a simple and reasonably effective way of reducing transmission, yet they told the public masks were useless and should not be worn (up until the point where they decided to order masks to be worn, knowing full well that this would become another divisive flashpoint).

They knew the old and frail were at much higher risk of serious illness and death from Covid... so they sent any sick old, frail people into the care homes so they could give it to other old, frail people (and care workers, underpaid and denied PPE...) while encouraging the police to harass and intimidate young people for stopping to speak to each other on street corners.

Lockdowns were never about public health in the UK. They were a power grab and a mass moral panic to distract people from what the Tories were up to.

Eve · 13/01/2022 00:03

Well said wreath21

rainbowplease · 13/01/2022 00:16

Completely agree @Wreath21

sleepwouldbenice · 13/01/2022 00:22

[quote BeMoreGoldfish]@Wreath21 you really are talking shite.[/quote]
This... again

Flaxmeadow · 13/01/2022 00:47

BeMoreGoldfish
@Wreath21 you really are talking shite

This ^
Chatting utter shite. Horse shite, probably full of ivermectin shite

SpindleyCrow · 13/01/2022 00:57

My hospital appointments and treatments were cancelled for me. I didn't have any choice whether to 'go along with it' or not. It happened to me. I had no agency in it.

How was that me being 'obedient'?

JessieLongleg · 13/01/2022 01:12

I agree with the lockdown but I also agree that it was better for big business and also was a great way to lower the NHS services so people feel that private is the answer. It was terrible how small businesses where shut but the big supermarkets made more profit. People perceive lockdown as all or nothing. Maybe we could of kept social groups going, kept the younger kids at school let the older ones work online meet up at the social groups with distancing. Even now when it's discussed people perceive lockdowns as all or nothing. But summer I was stopping teenagers setting fire to bushes as so bored, it's not a excuses. In fact a teach I knows that teaches teenagers said how well his class did working from home if they was motivated by education. He helped stopped the fire and get why some kids were being antisocial as is aware in the differences between family support in his classes. Ok smaller businesses did turn online but after a while so big business won.

Wreath21 · 13/01/2022 01:12

@Flaxmeadow

BeMoreGoldfish *@Wreath21* you really are talking shite

This ^
Chatting utter shite. Horse shite, probably full of ivermectin shite

Not in the least. Fully vaccinated, including booster. Covid exists all right, and it is dangerous but so is Johnson's government. They saw Covid as an opportunity, and they used their tried-and-tested strategies of scaring the public and sowing division so they could entrench their power and steal public money. They've done everything rather than fund health and social care properly - give keyworkers applause rather than a pay rise, 'build hospitals' which can't treat patients because there are no staff to work in them, fuck around with nonsense like curfews and having to have a meal in pubs before you can order a drink and never introduce adequate sick pay so low-paid workers shy away from testing and pray their coughs are just a cold and they can avoid losing two weeks' pay without infecting anyone vulnerable.
Flaxmeadow · 13/01/2022 01:42

It was this wreath. Your anti lockdown shite. Your first couple of posts in particular

Wreath21
It's clearer than ever that the Great Moral Panic was never about public health in the first place. I am terribly sorry for those who suffered because they were obedient and genuinely believed their suffering was necessary and would somehow 'save lives'

Chinzia · 13/01/2022 02:15

@Wreath21well said. I’m glad the issue of domestic abuse has been raised on this thread, lockdowns are an abusers paradise. 2020, the mumsnet trending board, every thread about Covid. Early 2021 virus still in the trending box but not so many threads, barely in there these days, you have to come on to the coronavirus board. Shows you we are not worried anymore, it’s great we are moving on.

MarbleQueen · 13/01/2022 02:30

I agree with wreath.

ayyeeeright · 13/01/2022 03:11

Wreath is spot on.

TheChip · 13/01/2022 06:25

I agree with wreath.
Its hard to make sense of it otherwise as to why they really weren't worried about their own lives and families. Fair enough if it was just one or two of them, but the fact there was 100 of them.
Don't forget about Neil fergerson. The one who put us into lockdown. He also was not in the least bit concerned. Oh and good old dom and his eye testing.
The absolute stupidity of some of the rules, where if it wasn't our actual real life, we would think they were having a laugh! I really do wonder if they were laughing at how gullible we were with some of them. Such as being unable to sit down on walks. You need vitamin d but you mustn't go outdoors more than once.

Yes the virus is real and is dangerous, but the way they handled it and expected us to handle it has been the opposite of help. I mean, closing down gyms when telling us to get more healthy. Locking us indoors when they knew vitamin d deficiency was a huge factor in those who ended up in hospital. Building hospitals that they never used.
Instead they pumped money into things that would benefit themselves and their friends, while families were losing their loved ones, jobs and businesses.

Its sickening and worst of all, they will get away with it. Just like they have from the beginning.

tenredthings · 13/01/2022 06:28

@Wreath21

No, it really was the wrong thing to do. It was a moral panic, backed by superstition and, in the case of a lot of governments and powerful people, an excellent opportunity to profiteer and seize power. In the case of more benign governments, it was more a matter of buying into the idea that you solve problems by punishment and control, and that if you don't make big pious gestures you don't 'care'... It was never going to do more than defer the problem; it increased inequality and domestic violence... and didn't 'save' the poor and marginalised anyway, as they were still obliged to go out to work (with no PPE, and the general public being actively discouraged from wearing masks.)

This !