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devildeepbluesea · 13/01/2022 06:32

I’m in Wales so when this Tory knees up was happening, I still wasn’t even allowed to see my family. I live alone and the loneliness was awful.

I have nothing but contempt and disdain for these entitled cretins.

VikingOnTheFridge · 13/01/2022 06:57

Lockdowns involve the state choosing to prioritise the welfare of some vulnerable people over that of other vulnerable people. There wasn't nearly enough understanding of this at the time.

SpookyScarySkeletons · 13/01/2022 07:12

In May my youngest DD was devastated because it was confirmed that none of the usual end of primary celebrations were going to happen and she wasn't going to be able to say goodbye to all her friends.

My DSis was horrendously depressed as she lives alone. She was so lonely.

My Nana, who also lives alone was really struggling with losing her sight and none of us could visit her.

They can take their wine and cheese parties and shove it up their arses.

Boris needs to resign.

jgw1 · 13/01/2022 07:16

@Againstmachine

I am not sure if timelines align but nonetheless we had a government at beginning of the pandemic Made it illegal to sit in a park. Bubbles for single people were only introduced in may.

But in may it was ok to have a party.

Its sickening.

Here is a helpful briefing from the 20th May 2020 explaining what we were allowed to do on that beautiful sunny evening.

news.sky.com/video/governments-lockdown-restrictions-from-20-may-2020-same-day-as-downing-street-gathering-12513475

Bordois · 13/01/2022 07:18

Wreath is right. Slinging insults and trying to smear her as an anti-vax covid denier won't change that.

DynamiteFilledRadish · 13/01/2022 07:18

@Flaxmeadow

BeMoreGoldfish *@Wreath21* you really are talking shite

This ^
Chatting utter shite. Horse shite, probably full of ivermectin shite

Agree with you Wreath.

Watapalava · 13/01/2022 07:20

Honestly in the May thousands were breaking the rules. You could see if from pictures of the beach etc. At the time i couldn't believe people didn't visit sick relatives just because the government said so. I attended a funeral in May and no way did people not support each other rules or no rules. Sometimes common sense and human decency prevails. Its sad that people let fear stop them from seeing dying relatives. I can understand the anger where people had no choice (care homes etc) but i heard f people on here who sat away from parents at funerals!

Its incredibly sad that so many people chose to be so controlled in face of common sense

Oldtiredfedup · 13/01/2022 07:21

Yup. Sitting in a fucking bench or on the grass at a distance from others was NEVER going to up there risks. It was ridiculous hillocks that once again disadvantaged those who couldn’t walk around for an hour solid.

SmileyClare · 13/01/2022 07:21

(Lockdown) was never going to do more than defer the problem

That was the point of it, to defer the problem, to put a lid on rising cases so that hospitals weren't overwhelmed to the point of being unable to treat covid patients. It flattened the curve on infection.
If people thought the purpose of a lockdown was "make covid go away" then they completely misinterpreted the objective.

Grumpyosaurus · 13/01/2022 07:24

I can't stand Boris, but the lockdowns saved lives: they controlled rates of infection until we had a vaccine.

They were terrible for some people, no denying it, but iirc were in line with scientific advice at the time.

Also, iirc, the Welsh and Scottish governments opted for even stricter measures.

BeMoreGoldfish · 13/01/2022 07:25

You’re talking shite because you’re conflating things and drawing conclusions that are shite. It’s not that they weren’t “frightened” of the virus - they were all outside and the risk of catching the virus has always been low outside. However in the first weekend of lockdown when we could all go to places like NT gardens the crowds were insane. Unfortunately to reduce these issues we were expected to keep our contact outside to a minimum.

Lots of errors were made. Lots of things happened that shouldn’t have happened. It was massive incompetence not shady tinfoil hat conspiracy to keep us in our place. We watched the scenes from Italian hospitals in utter horror and didn’t want that for us.

I wouldn’t begin to defend this loathsome government but the initial lockdown was probably the only valid decision to be made at the time. Whether it was too long or too harsh is a whole other debate.

Watapalava · 13/01/2022 07:28

The government probs knew the rules didnt need to be so harsh but to be fair the public were calling for them so they likely knew if they didnt put rules in place, theyd be blamed anyway

Its like now, still going on, you have idiots calling for school closures and keeping working from hoe becuase of high cases - no thought of the other impacts or the massive change in pictures of those in hospital and their outcomes. They are still scared. The information in May 2020 still conveyed it was a virus that was mild for the young. That message has never changed which is why so many of us were never scared. Healthy people washing their shopping was abnormal - not the gov fault - they told you many many times that it was the old and vulnerable at risk.

People wanted control

Some people still call for rules and regulations!

BeMoreGoldfish · 13/01/2022 07:28

@Watapalava what an offensive and ridiculous thing to say! My dad was dying in a care home - do you think I should have broken in and barged past staff to visit him????

BeMoreGoldfish · 13/01/2022 07:30

@Watapalava I’ve never been scared but it’s not just the old and “vulnerable” who’ve died. And even if it is, since when did we stop giving a shit about the old and vulnerable? I also cared about the NHS staff who were on their knees dealing with a new virus they knew little about .

Toadsinholes · 13/01/2022 07:30

Absolutely yes to everything Wreath21 has said. It’s blows my mind how horrific this has all been & all the stupid needless rules & fear that so many people had/still have… it’s ruined so many lives. And all while Mr Johnson partied away…

gettingolderandgrumpy · 13/01/2022 07:31

I do agree in part with wreath we really do have to question were the lockdowns necessary? .if it was really necessary for us all to stay home , no weddings / party’s/ funerals only small numbers no touching social distancing but somehow the government think it’s fine to have a party . I can’t decide if they the government are incredibly arrogant or incredibly stupid it’s baffling. It’s been so painful all of this for those that lost loved ones during the lockdown, people are rightly very angry and questioning the government this government that we trusted ( stupidly) that would keep us safe . Boris needs to go the damage he is doing will cost more lives because nobody will listen anymore.

Player067 · 13/01/2022 07:32

@Watapalava

Honestly in the May thousands were breaking the rules. You could see if from pictures of the beach etc. At the time i couldn't believe people didn't visit sick relatives just because the government said so. I attended a funeral in May and no way did people not support each other rules or no rules. Sometimes common sense and human decency prevails. Its sad that people let fear stop them from seeing dying relatives. I can understand the anger where people had no choice (care homes etc) but i heard f people on here who sat away from parents at funerals!

Its incredibly sad that so many people chose to be so controlled in face of common sense

What a thoroughly unpleasant post. Reminds me a bit of Rees Mogg blaming the Grenfell residents for lacking “common sense”

VikingOnTheFridge · 13/01/2022 07:35

@Watapalava

Honestly in the May thousands were breaking the rules. You could see if from pictures of the beach etc. At the time i couldn't believe people didn't visit sick relatives just because the government said so. I attended a funeral in May and no way did people not support each other rules or no rules. Sometimes common sense and human decency prevails. Its sad that people let fear stop them from seeing dying relatives. I can understand the anger where people had no choice (care homes etc) but i heard f people on here who sat away from parents at funerals!

Its incredibly sad that so many people chose to be so controlled in face of common sense

You should really acknowledge that it wasn't a choice in many cases.

canary1 · 13/01/2022 07:40

I agree with Wreath too regarding the opportunity they took to line their own pockets with our taxes, giving their mates and relatives PPE contracts.

Lockdowns prioritised the well-being of some vulnerable people ( those vulnerable to dying from Covid) over the well- being of other vulnerable people. Domestic violence, child abuse, mental illness.... destroyed businesses and livelihoods.

Lockdowns did a lot of harm

Those who were fined for gatherings should be refunded now.

Claps for NHS, and a pay cut ( below inflation pay rise). The almost hilarity of nightingale hospitals that had no staff. The existing hospitals don’t have enough staff. What a farce the nightingale hospitals were!

Boris can leave, but he’ll be well set up for life . He might even be happy to go and live on his millions.

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Againstmachine · 13/01/2022 07:59

Honestly in the May thousands were breaking the rules.

But these were the people at top involved in making these rules.

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VikingOnTheFridge · 13/01/2022 08:02

@Againstmachine

Honestly in the May thousands were breaking the rules.

But these were the people at top involved in making these rules.

Yes, exactly. There is a vast difference between people in government making rules they don't adhere to themselves whilst punishing others, and ordinary people breaking rules. The difference is power.

CovidForChristmas · 13/01/2022 08:04

@Watapalava is right, thousands were breaking the rules. It doesn’t make it ok though.

I was stuck in a situation where half of our wider family followed the guidance and half couldn’t give a toss about the guidance. It was hugely uncomfortable and things have never been the same since.

I do admit I now wish I hadn’t. All that time isolated. All that time defending the ‘rules’ and why we should follow them. All that time the people who made them couldn’t give a shit. I mean, BYOB? 100 people invited?

We were still having regular press updates when this happened. It just sickens me.

LadyPenelope68 · 13/01/2022 08:06

BeMoreGoldfish
@Wreath21 you really are talking shite.

As others have said, absolutely this ^^
The more you talk, the more shite comes out.

ifonly4 · 13/01/2022 08:13

My friend's Mum had her funeral just into lockdown. I say her funeral, the crematorium wouldn't allow anyone to go - my friend broke lockdown rules, non essential travel to car park, where she could see her Mum's coffin carried into crem.

Wreath21 · 13/01/2022 08:20

I'm genuinely quite concerned that some posters are still trying to insist that the lockdowns were necessary and the only problem was disobedience. Is it that your lives are so comfortable that Covid was literally the only thing you had to be frightened of - ie you were not going to lose money, be miserably lonely or experience domestic abuse or a long wait to be diagnosed and treated for another dangerous illness? Is the solution to every problem more sacrifices on the part of other people? Or is it a matter of longing to see the unruly, not-like-you masses under much stricter controls all the time?