To say get your fucking vaccine (if you can)

[Urthie]

And if you chose not to please don’t give COVID to my red zone working partner.

I’m CEV, I’m positive, I can have only caught it from him - and he works In a red zone where last week 98% of patients were not vaccinated

Sorry for the moan.

@TheChip

Hang on. You got infected from a vaccinated person. Yet you're blaming the unvaccinated

Quite!

@Urthie

Vaccines in Israel have done very well…

In what way OP? Huge take up of the vaccinations, ultra organised with the roll out, I accept. But if you look at their stats, it doesn’t seem that Israel are faring any better than other countries in comparison. Japan took a very different approach initially, they as a country have fared very well.

Sorry you are poorly btw

"Of the cases in intensive care yesterday, 87 per cent were unvaccinated, 11 per cent were partially vaccinated and two per cent were fully vaccinated." www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-15-october-2021

I see your point OP - if people were vaccinated they wouldn't (mostly) be in the red zone, passing it on to staff, indirectly on to you.

But people can be in hospital and icu for many other reasons and just happen to be positive for Covid.

Look, I'm triple vaccinated but throwing blame around does no good. This is a virus that the vast majority of people are going to catch at least once.

I’m vaccinated, we have been super careful - he’s working with unvaccinated people, he’s got it, I’ve now got it …

Vaccines don’t stop the spread, but they do have a good chance of you not ending up in ITU

None of that changes your circumstances!

If people who are not vaccines end up in ICU, that also does not stop the spread of the vaccine

The OP's partner is just as likely to have caught it from someone who has been vaccinated - in fact more so, as most people are vaccinated (and boosted)
This would be true of the general population, but OPs partner is specifically working with 98% unvaccinated, infected people, in which case he's a good bit more likely to have caught it from one of them.

@WindyState

I can well understand where the OP is coming from.

People not getting vaccinated are knowingly and utterly selfishly putting others at risk.

And the vaccine does reduce the likelihood of infected people transmitting as well as insuring there are less ill people transmitting to start with so can we stop with the "oh but the vaccine doesn't stop you spreading it" because it fucking does.

Yes, it is incredibly selfish to put your own wants and needs before that of someone else.

It's also quite selfish to think that someone else should be bullied into putting something into their body that they don't want - because you think they should.

I'm triple vaccinated but that was MY choice. I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of people wheeling out the 'it's selfish not to" trope. Everyone has the right to make choices over their own healthcare and the right not to be branded selfish because of those choices.

We're all selfish, that's humans for you.

Can I just ask how you manage being CEV with a partner working in healthcare, during a bad flu year?

And your turn of phrase will do nothing to encourage people to have a vaccination.

I hope you recover quickly.

@Serenschintte

They all have Covid too now.

For all those people saying being vaccinated means you can still pass it on just not get ill, that’s the point the OP is trying to make. If all those unvaccinated people in ITU they wouldn’t be in ITU and wouldn’t have exposed her partner as he wouldn’t have to be work on a red ward as there would be minimal people in hospital. People are testing positive again after recent infections such as November, the 3 month guide is out the window.

All the people saying I won’t go through a vaccine again, its an evolving pandemic. No one know what the fuck is going on until it’s happened. A few hours out your day a few times this year and then yearly is better than the people I have seen lose their jobs though covid, covid directly, blood clots, long covid etc. But all the “I can’t be arsed with a third” but I’m sure you’d take your kid to every vaccine offered every few months and that isn’t a hardship.

@Serenschintte sorry I meant to quote the post below you not you.

I have thanks and I still got it. If you’ve already had it previously then you were obviously OK. Your partner could work in a different department of Covid was so dangerous to you.

I'm triple vaccinated but that was MY choice. I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of people wheeling out the 'it's selfish not to" trope. Everyone has the right to make choices over their own healthcare and the right not to be branded selfish because of those choices.

Me too and I think vaccines have been great. But the idea that people can try to control what other people do is getting to me more these days.

Plus the op won’t succeed in converting anyone by berating them

@Urthie

I’m vaccinated, we have been super careful - he’s working with unvaccinated people, he’s got it, I’ve now got it …

Vaccines don’t stop the spread, but they do have a good chance of you not ending up in ITU

For all those people saying being vaccinated means you can still pass it on just not get ill, that’s the point the OP is trying to make. If all those unvaccinated people in ITU they wouldn’t be in ITU and wouldn’t have exposed her partner as he wouldn’t have to be work on a red ward as there would be minimal people in hospital. People are testing positive again after recent infections such as November, the 3 month guide is out the window.

All the people saying I won’t go through a vaccine again, its an evolving pandemic. No one know what the fuck is going on until it’s happened. A few hours out your day a few times this year and then yearly is better than the people I have seen lose their jobs though covid, covid directly, blood clots, long covid etc. But all the “I can’t be arsed with a third” but I’m sure you’d take your kid to every vaccine offered every few months and that isn’t a hardship.

(Post I meant to quote)

@MotherNaturesSon

Yes. It's none of anyones business about another's medical history/vaccination status. I'm double vaccinated but people like you and your attitude makes me sick.

Unfortunately, it appears likely a person how has decided not to be vaccinated have made the OP sick.

If her DP works in a hospital red zone (i.e. covid zone) and if 98% of the people being treated in that area have not been vaccinated and OP has now got Covid then it seems likely she caught it via her partner from an unvaccinated patient. It is not impossible of course that she caught it some other way but there's a high likelihood that this was the source.

IMHO she's got every right to be upset especially if she is CEV and to urge others to get vaccinated.

I've had all 3 jabs. I respect that others have the right to choose otherwise but it seems to me that the OP has a right to be unhappy when it seems likely that she is ill as a by product of their actions / lack of them.

So neither of you go into any shop?
Don't go and full up the car/use public transport?
Have children of school age?
Sit with colleagues during breaks?
Attend staff meetings?
Don't attend any medical appointments?
Don't socialise with friends/family?

Do you start threads saying get a fucking vaccination when he brings home other viruses? Not like CV is the only thing you can pick up from hospitals that can be fatal to the vulnerable.

YANBU. Not getting vaccinated IS selfish if you don't then take precautions against giving Covid to someone else. It may not be a 'big thing' for you, but it is for the CEV and for the NHS when you end up in hospital.

I'm fully vaccinated, but currently wondering why I bothered. About half of my extended family are vaccinated, we all saw eachother on new years eve (all did lateral flows beforehand and obviously no symptoms) and every single one of us now has covid. All of our symptoms have been the same, vaccinations dont seem to have made the slightest bit of difference to the severity and transmission. I was very pro vaccine beforehand, and I know this is anecdotal but I'm now thinking what's the point, it's really made me question how effective they are

@Seriouslymole

Can I just ask how you manage being CEV with a partner working in healthcare, during a bad flu year?

And your turn of phrase will do nothing to encourage people to have a vaccination.

I hope you recover quickly.

Answering for the Op. From family experience, they book in for the first available flu jab from end of September, either work/Gp or paying at at Tesco. First sign of any cold they sleep in the spare room. House is ventilated every day and have air filters. Any visitors know the situation and phone up before and say X has a cold do you still want us to come? All staying guests wait until flu jab on board. People have children and relatives with chemo/cancer/immune deficiency etc long before the pandemic and have had to live this way for years.

Honestly people, give the op a break. If her partner works in COVID HD wards they will have been to hell and back over the past two years. Regardless of arguing the finer points of infection stats, if we had 100% mass vaccination the health service would be under less pressure than it is right now. I can completely understand how she feels and it is pretty sad to watch a bunch of comfortable keyboard warriors have a go at her. OP, I hope you feel better soon.

Yes vax and boosted might catch it, but the chances of ending up in hospital are tiny. The nhs is swamped with unvaccinated patients.

@Urthie

Vaccines in Israel have done very well…

hmmm... I guess that's why Israel are on their 4th round of vaccinations. Because of how incredibly effective the vaccine is at preventing cases, you need at least 4 of the jabs ( so far, in last 11.5 months). Except maybe 4 rounds is not working either.

Yabu. I've spent months with crippling anxiety trying to force myself into deciding to take the vaccine because it's for the greater good. I have a terrible needle phobia and health anxiety. Before you say it I am currently in therapy for this.

I hope your therapy is helpful. Well done for going last week. That must've taken a lot. We should be doing more to support people with phobias and anxiety.

@elastamum

Honestly people, give the op a break. If her partner works in COVID HD wards they will have been to hell and back over the past two years. Regardless of arguing the finer points of infection stats, if we had 100% mass vaccination the health service would be under less pressure than it is right now. I can completely understand how she feels and it is pretty sad to watch a bunch of comfortable keyboard warriors have a go at her. OP, I hope you feel better soon.

Hardly keyboard warriors - the OP posted to ask 'AIBU'. If you ask that question you should be prepared for people to tell you that you are.

@PasstheBucket89

Being vaccinated does not prevent you catching it or passing it on, it means your own symptoms will be less severe.

this................

I don't know why the OP is getting a hard time. I read 'if you can' in the thread title to exclude people who have a genuine reason not to from the exhortation.

I have no sympathy with antivaxxers and Covid deniers. OP is NBU.