To say get your fucking vaccine (if you can)

[Urthie]

And if you chose not to please don’t give COVID to my red zone working partner.

I’m CEV, I’m positive, I can have only caught it from him - and he works In a red zone where last week 98% of patients were not vaccinated

Sorry for the moan.

@MistressoftheDarkSide it is all very, very shit. Sending love. And the speediest of healing vibes to your DP, it's such a scary time for families and loved ones, and the patients themselves of course.

And I didn't read anything as snippiness, plus if I did I was asking for it with my profanity in the thread title.

[quote Urthie]@PizzaCrust Yeah, I've had to travel for work, I've had to travel for a funeral, and I went on a holiday too. All abroad. Funeral and holiday were in the same country. I actually felt safe travelling than I would do going into a hospital - because of the rules on vaccination.

I guess you are one of those that think CEV people should be locked up for good?[/quote]
Silly assumption. Of course not.

But I’m not the one tho thinks that unvaccinated people should be locked up for good to suit yourself as evident from your post. I mean, if they were locked up for good then your Dude wouldn’t have caught Covid, would he?

I was open to getting vaccinated but attitudes like yours have made me decide against it.

Words fail me.

@MistressoftheDarkSide

Honestly OP my sympathy has just waned a little reading your post.

I can't visit my DP in ICU after his brain bleed because he tested positive though asymptomatic on admission. It may be 14 days or until he tests negative before it's a possibility. I am isolating as a close contact for ten days and am negative on LFTs. I'm expecting the wrath if God from track and trace because I missed their call this morning after they graciously allowed me until today because if circumstances.

So I'm sorry you're not poorly and so inconvenienced, but this is the world we live in and loads if people are struggling in loads of ways because of the ongoing inconsistency, confusion and paranoia that has been going on for nearly two years. So you'll just have to deal with ut as best you can like the rest of us do.

Goid luck. Maybe crack open the gin?

Why has your sympathy waned ? The OP is CEV so if she’s not very very careful, she will be ‘poorly’.And it’s not an ‘inconvenience’ being CEV - if it’s severe enough, your whole life is affected, way beyond inconvenience. Sorry for your circumstances by the way - I do hope your DP is on the mend soon. 💐

@Urthie

And if you chose not to please don’t give COVID to my red zone working partner.

I’m CEV, I’m positive, I can have only caught it from him - and he works In a red zone where last week 98% of patients were not vaccinated

Sorry for the moan.

For ur information at my work place where 99% of the staff have got both their jabs. 7 of them tested postive. Ohhhh double jabbed btw So stop having a moan about those who havent had their vaccine because its not making no difference 3 of them are seriously unwell where they cant get out of bed So jabbed or not it dont make a difference tbh. Its just ur luck.

Dont listen to the media all the time.
Stop listening to the stupid government
Who was having. A party while we was in a lockdown

Sorry not sorry.

At the end of the day, I doubt you’d care about someone’s vaccination status if they were delivering your online food shop which stops you from having to venture out to do the shop yourself. It only matters when it suits you for it to matter.

Horrible, unkind comment and a pretty shitty thing to say to someone who has already explained the problems and fears of being CEV. The advice to CEV people during the earlier parts of the pandemic was exactly what you’ve quoted here - don’t go out unless absolutely necessary and use online shopping wherever you can. It wasn’t, and isn’t a matter of ‘when it suits you to matter’. For some of us it was and still is a necessity.

So stop having a moan about those who havent had their vaccine because its not making no difference 3 of them are seriously unwell where they cant get out of bed
So jabbed or not it dont make a difference tbh.
Its just ur luck.

Of course it’s making a difference, you only have to look at the statistics before and after the vaccines were introduced to know that. And of course there’s no guarantee that the vaccine will prevent everyone from becoming unwell, but that’s not the point. It will stop most people from becoming so unwell that they have to go into hospital and stretch an NHS that’s already at breaking point even further.

@Rosscameasdoody

*So stop having a moan about those who havent had their vaccine because its not making no difference 3 of them are seriously unwell where they cant get out of bed So jabbed or not it dont make a difference tbh. Its just ur luck.*

Of course it’s making a difference, you only have to look at the statistics before and after the vaccines were introduced to know that. And of course there’s no guarantee that the vaccine will prevent everyone from becoming unwell, but that’s not the point. It will stop most people from becoming so unwell that they have to go into hospital and stretch an NHS that’s already at breaking point even further.

Where do you get the statistics from? The news The same people who couldnt give a number on hos much people had the new varient

Oh and OP - if you want people to do things, it's better to ask nicely.

If you swear at someone they'll just tell you to go away. There is zero need for it when you are typing - you have time to think and you have time to use a less offensive form of expression. I don't care how cross you are.

[quote KurtWilde]**@Mickarooni* I'm fully aware that many CEV people worked through the pandemic, my DD was one of them, and my CV DS lost his business because of it. If you read my post correctly I was clear to state and some putting their own health at stake on a daily basis*. So I'm not quite sure what your problem is.

I'm just absolutely sick to death of people saying others are selfish and uncaring after all that has happened during the pandemic. They clearly have very short memories. [/quote]
@KurtWilde

I don’t have a problem, I was just commenting that we shouldn’t all be lumped together. I do t agree with the OP’s view. Sorry, I was mainly agreeing with you, showing that all CEV people think everyone is selfish. I’m sorry it’s been a crappy time for your family.

@Rosscameasdoody

”Why has your sympathy waned ? The OP is CEV so if she’s not very very careful, she will be ‘poorly’.And it’s not an ‘inconvenience’ being CEV - if it’s severe enough, your whole life is affected, way beyond inconvenience.”

I think it’s because OP latterly said she isn’t even unwell and seems not to have requested the anti virals she’s entitled to.

• Where do you get the statistics from? The news The same people who couldnt give a number on hos much people had the new varient*

There are many sources of data, you don’t have to rely on government figures or the news, and it’s not just the UK - data is available on the efficacy of vaccine programmes worldwide.

The update that the op is fine.. well what is the issue then. Being bored?

Why would that need extra sympathy from people who have likely done isolations of their own

Fine = no worse than I was from a kidney infection I had.

My work are a staff member down - that's the biggest issue for me right now.
The other issue is I may not be fine in a few days, who knows?

Re. Antivirals - I cannot actually take them (for similar reasons as to why I am CEV) - I am waiting to hear if there's other treatments I can take but right now it's rest, mumsnet, reading, and just feeling rubbish at not being able to work.

My work are a staff member down - that's the biggest issue for me right now.

So this prompted the instruction for people to get the vaccine.

Can’t say it has persuaded anyone to do it. Probably put some off though

@Urthie

I hope you feel better soon.

Some people believe the rubbish about vaccines and won't take it. They'd rather believe YouTube posters than data and evidence from actual scientists. Nothing you say will make some people change their minds.

Others are waverers and waiting (not sure what for, but some say they are waiting).

Education, information that is accurate, data and facts might help some of the not sure. I know a lady who was anti vaccine since she thought it contained 'poison' (her partner's words) she has recently had the vaccine, she said being able to travel abroad made the decision for her. Different things motivate different people. For some travel requires vaccination and so that will persuade, for others getting into places, for others nothing will change their opinion even if some of their beliefs about vaccines are proved incorrect. That's on them.

I doubt you’ll persuade many of those opposed to vaccines now. if They weren’t worried before with Delta, they won’t be too worried by omicron.

I went to the Rheumatology clinic just before Christmas for a minor in-clinic procedure. I asked the consultant why I was able to access the treatment when so many cancer patients had their treatment on hold. What she told me has stayed with me ever since.

She said minor treatments that can be done in clinic are less impacted because there is less chance of complications and therefore no need to request a hospital bed. My procedure was done by the consultant because she just happened to be in clinic that day, but it could have been carried out by any one of the doctors on the team. Cancer patients are having their treatment put on hold because treatment can and very often does result in complications and has to be planned for. Surgery for cancer in many cases requires the surgeon to ensure a bed in HDU or ITU is available, whether or not it is eventually needed, and care in HDU/ITU is a necessity for some types of surgery. If there are no beds available the surgery cannot go ahead.

She then told me about a friend she had gone through medical school with who is now a consultant oncologist, and who was devastated after the experience of having to ring every one of her patients, week after week, to tell them they could not go ahead with their planned surgery because there were no beds available. She had to deal with distraught people asking why, after her telling them only weeks ago that their conditions were life threatening, was she now telling them that they could not have the treatment they needed.

At the time 90% of the patients in ITU were unvaccinated. Maybe some of them couldn’t be vaccinated because of medical concerns, but I don’t believe that was the case for all of them. Judge for yourselves whether you think this is right and how you would feel if it were yourself or one of your loved ones being denied treatment.

@Rosscameasdoody

At the end of the day, I doubt you’d care about someone’s vaccination status if they were delivering your online food shop which stops you from having to venture out to do the shop yourself. It only matters when it suits you for it to matter.

Horrible, unkind comment and a pretty shitty thing to say to someone who has already explained the problems and fears of being CEV. The advice to CEV people during the earlier parts of the pandemic was exactly what you’ve quoted here - don’t go out unless absolutely necessary and use online shopping wherever you can. It wasn’t, and isn’t a matter of ‘when it suits you to matter’. For some of us it was and still is a necessity.

How is it unkind? It’s the truth. It doesn’t matter one bit who is vaccinated as long as they were packing your shopping and delivering it. Unvaccinated people are the scum of the earth but it’s fine if they're employed to do work that benefits you.

Notice, I used absolutely no profanities in making the statement, either.

Also, telling people to “get the fucking vaccine” is horrible, unkind and a pretty shitty thing to say. Similar to the PP who said someone’s genuine health anxiety was a “load of self indulgent tripe”.

If you want people to do something that benefits you, you don’t talk like that to them.

The fact that you’re not too unwell with it, despite being CEV and not able to take the anti virals, just goes to show that the vaccines have worked for you. This is a good thing! Sorry you have Covid but I’m glad you’re not too unwell. Clearly any illness sucks big time.

@Rosscameasdoody

I was open to getting vaccinated but attitudes like yours have made me decide against it.

Words fail me.

But you still replied?

Let me ask you this, if you’re in work and your manager says to you

“Just do the fucking overtime”, despite you having reasons you don’t want to do it- does that make you want to do it?

I doubt it. You’d probably be looking for a new employer or filing a grievance.

@PizzaCrust. How is it unkind? It’s the truth. It doesn’t matter one bit who is vaccinated as long as they were packing your shopping and delivering it. Unvaccinated people are the scum of the earth but it’s fine if they're employed to do work that benefits you.

FYI. It was deemed more dangerous for CEV people to shop than to receive home deliveries - the advice was to not make direct contact with the delivery person, leave the packages outside the door for a time and wipe down the bags and any plastic packaging with sanitizer before unpacking. This was official advice and the supermarkets were, and in some cases still are, reserving slots for CEV people.

@PizzaCrust. Let me ask you this, if you’re in work and your manager says to you “Just do the fucking overtime”, despite you having reasons you don’t want to do it- does that make you want to do it? I doubt it. You’d probably be looking for a new employer or filing a grievance.

Maybe I would, but I certainly wouldn’t be refusing a vaccine that could potentially save my life out of sheer bloody mindedness !!

[quote Rosscameasdoody]**@PizzaCrust. Let me ask you this, if you’re in work and your manager says to you “Just do the fucking overtime”, despite you having reasons you don’t want to do it- does that make you want to do it? I doubt it. You’d probably be looking for a new employer or filing a grievance.

Maybe I would, but I certainly wouldn’t be refusing a vaccine that could potentially save my life out of sheer bloody mindedness !![/quote]
It’s not one vaccine, though. It’s three or four now? If it was one vaccine you’d have a point, but I’m absolutely not getting 4, 5, 6, 7 etc vaccines repeatedly for the next year or two.

I am young, healthy and the current variant doesn’t concern me.