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My sister is a Covid denier

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Mol1628 · 30/12/2021 14:52

I don’t know what to do anymore. We’ve struggled with her behaviour since the pandemic began. She’s denied covids existence. Refused to believe any of it. She even lost her job because she wouldn’t wear a mask.
She’s been going to protests and still meeting with a new group of friends who she’s met through a local resistance group.

At Christmas we all did LFTs and made sure we were well enough before we met up. She refused. My parents are too soft on her and let her stay over despite my dad being vulnerable.

Christmas Day at parents she said she had a dry throat but it was caused by the wood burner. Boxing Day she said she was fine and she came to our house. Towards the end of Boxing Day I noticed her voice was sounding hoarse. She refused to take a test. My mum asked her to go home but she wouldn’t (she’s been staying over at their house for Xmas) then she got more sick the next day and my dad now feeling poorly.

My husband felt a bit rough today. Took a LF as no PCR tests available. Positive straight away. My dad took a test too and he is also positive.

Sister still refusing to take a test and refusing to leave my parents house.

Am I being unreasonable to say I never want her at my house again? It’s not that she’s given us Covid, it’s the complete disregard for other people. She’s been selfish this entire time. She refused to wear a mask for my grandads funeral and made my mum cry with her behaviour on that day. I feel like this is the final straw and I want to cut contact with her now.

I don’t care if she does or doesn’t believe in Covid, but her complete disregard for other people is something I don’t feel like I can get past.

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 11:26

She is very close to her 40s.

She doesn’t need looking after she’s just a childish twat. Apparently she’s going home today at some point. Fucking off now she’s made everyone else poorly.

Thank you. Feeling rough today. My LFT is still negative but I’m isolating and waiting for PCR.

I’ve decided to cut her out. Been up thinking about it. My parents can do what they wish. She’s just shown a complete disregard for anyone else. It’s unforgivable really.

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NailSaloon · 31/12/2021 11:27

She can believe what she likes.

I have saboteur types like her in my family and neighbours, they believe in Covid, they lie including to themselves, take vaccines (due to being fashion victims FOMO reasons) and twist rules. I have nothing to do with them

I wouldn't have gone near her in person, I don't understand why any of you put yourself at risk, you should take responsibility for your risky behaviour, you just are not quite as risky in choices as your sister, same family issue just to different degrees.

NailSaloon · 31/12/2021 11:29

I’ve decided to cut her out. Been up thinking about it.

Sorry you got ill to put in boundaries, I hope you get better soon.

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 11:34

I’d tried before and we didn’t see her for months. I genuinely didn’t think she would go as far as concealing illness and lying but of course that was my mistake. And having the cheek to stay at my parents house and refusing to test when she was asked.

We didn’t see her as soon as we knew she was even slightly unwell.

Main reason was to keep the peace. We’ve lost two family members this year on my mums side (not Covid related) so I didn’t want to add more stress to her at Christmas.

Of course now it’s done exactly the opposite and made things a lot worse.

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RuggerHug · 31/12/2021 11:36

She's a dick. Since she's already infected you I'd be tempted to go and physically remove her from your parents place but I know that will just cause more problems. Don't feel any guilt about cutting her out completely.

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 11:37

I’m well aware it was my choice to see her. I wish it was black and white as being able to just cut her out. It’s been a very difficult couple of years. Obviously I did the wrong thing. And it’s definitely the final straw in a long list of awful behaviours.

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Proudcarer6829 · 31/12/2021 11:41

I couldn't deal with someone like that. She has shown a total disregard for you all. It also seems like she's been brain washed. Friend of mine husband needs open heart surgery but because he won't take a covid test before(they believe the swabs are cancer causing) he can't have the operation....none of them have had vaccinations and they both have underlying health conditions. Madness..

NailSaloon · 31/12/2021 11:44

Do you understand viral load and the need for fresh air? I would have the Windows open and everyone in separate rooms if I were you.

I am sorry about the two deaths this year, I would have thought that reason to be more careful not to be more risky. Maybe you need to work on your logic for your self and your children going forward. I gather it is related to maths, maybe learning a music instrument would help, I don't quite understand how it works someone more knowledge may help.

Porcupineintherough · 31/12/2021 11:44

YANBU to cut her out but it will be hard. I would fully expect your parents to put pressure on you to change your mind, minimize her behaviour and ultimately blame you for "breaking up the family" and "being difficult ". It is a decision that can open your eyes to the whole family dynamic which may be more complicated than just "parents good, sister bad".

TooMuchToblerone · 31/12/2021 11:50

Yes, cut ties. I'm vaccinated but would never demand someone else is - I think they're daft but it's up to them. Tests are a different story.
If requested I don't understand why people refuse to take tests. My husband had a big birthday (weekend away - we paid) and asked for all 30 guests to take LFTs - everyone was happy except one family (close lifelong friends) who refused and said they wouldn't come if a test was necessary for attendance. Never had a rational explanation why they refused except "we do not wish to take tests".
They've never spoken to us since. Appreciate it's harder with family but your sister has crossed a line with her behaviour and the potential effects of it.

jewel1968 · 31/12/2021 11:56

Maybe wait until you feel better before deciding to cut her off? And if you still decide to do it, perhaps write to her with chapter and verse. I have family members I have no contact with which I know is right but it can still make me feel very sad.

I have a conspiracy theory friend (COVID denier etc ...) and I have decided to challenge them on their beliefs. I suspect they are often ignored (cos they are hard work) so their beliefs go unchecked. I will probably have no impact but in the hope that I might on I go.

Wecando · 31/12/2021 11:57

I don't say this very often but I too would absolutely cut ties.

Your sister sounds horrible . And very very selfish.

I read about this sort of stuff on my Facebook and it infuriates me. So
many people like this , shouting off their opinions and calling the rest us names and ' sheep' as well as c and words to that effect.

It makes me absolutely sick.

Yes please do cut ties and I hope you are all feeling better soon.

Blubells · 31/12/2021 11:59

Your sister sounds awful. Is she this rude to your parents generally?

The issue isn't her view on covid, it's her RUDENESS!

princessleha · 31/12/2021 12:06

@Mol1628

I don’t know what to do anymore. We’ve struggled with her behaviour since the pandemic began. She’s denied covids existence. Refused to believe any of it. She even lost her job because she wouldn’t wear a mask. She’s been going to protests and still meeting with a new group of friends who she’s met through a local resistance group.

At Christmas we all did LFTs and made sure we were well enough before we met up. She refused. My parents are too soft on her and let her stay over despite my dad being vulnerable.

My husband felt a bit rough today. Took a LF as no PCR tests available. Positive straight away. My dad took a test too and he is also positive.

Sister still refusing to take a test and refusing to leave my parents house.

I don’t care if she does or doesn’t believe in Covid, but her complete disregard for other people is something I don’t feel like I can get past.

I do believe that covid is a money making opportunity for pharmaceutical companies but it is real. She should respect all of your wishes just like you have hers.

NailSaloon · 31/12/2021 12:12

I don't like the dismissal of calling people a conspiracy theorist. I believe Covid is real, wore a mask before they were mandated and have had vaccines. There is so much we don't know yet and I think as much as your sister is narcissistic I think those calling others names like Conspiracy theory and dismissal of others who have questions and so sure of themselves are as narcissistic.

I think your family problems are as a result of poor boundaries resulting in risky behaviour, poor logic including your husband and some narcissistic entitlement coming from one of your parents that passed to your sister.

Get well soon, you have lots to do, to make things better for your children in 2022

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 12:35

@Porcupineintherough that’s already happened last year I told her she couldn’t come for my sons birthday meal because she had been to a stupid protest a few days beforehand and I was told by my dad that I was being unfair and cruel. So I am fully prepared for the same thing to happen again unfortunately.

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puppeteer · 31/12/2021 12:35

she had been with people the day before who have since tested positive on LFT

Yet that is what living with an endemic virus looks like. No-one tests for asymptomatic colds, flu, norovirus, etc.. Perhaps we could and even should, but we don't.

You must realise that the government's campaign of testing and boosting is everything to do with avoiding them having to backtrack and order more intrusive restrictions, and absolutely nothing to do with protecting the vulnerable?

NotTerfNorCis · 31/12/2021 21:15

Hi OP, appalling behaviour by your sister. I hope it all works out okay.

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 21:28

Don’t think it’s going to work out. I mentioned to my mum that I was very angry and she said she thinks the best thing to do is to forget about it and move on. I’ve told her I can’t do that.

It’s choosing my sisters shitty behaviour over everyone else. Again. I’m so so angry. She’s going to forgive her. No consequences for her. Again.

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Muchmorethan · 31/12/2021 21:58

@Mol1628

Don’t think it’s going to work out. I mentioned to my mum that I was very angry and she said she thinks the best thing to do is to forget about it and move on. I’ve told her I can’t do that.

It’s choosing my sisters shitty behaviour over everyone else. Again. I’m so so angry. She’s going to forgive her. No consequences for her. Again.

That's because they fear her response and aggressive behaviour more then yours.

They want you to let it go to make it easier for them.

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 22:01

@Muchmorethan you’re absolutely right I think. It’s not happening I’m going to just do what’s best for me and my children now. Should have done it a long time ago.

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User135644 · 31/12/2021 22:07

Has she always had this selfish streak, or has he should descended into madness during the pandemic? A lot of these people are seriously unwell.

User135644 · 31/12/2021 22:07

*has she just not he should

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Mol1628 · 31/12/2021 22:09

She’s always been a bit strange/selfish. Will push in front of people in shops and not even realise. Never really had friends and has never had a partner because she can’t live with other people.

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SarahJessicaParker1 · 31/12/2021 22:10

I don't think I'd have a covid denier in my house or see them voluntarily at all. This is exactly typical of their behaviour. Of course she won't test, even if she has symptoms and everyone else around her is testing positive.

You can't argue with that level of stupid, unfortunately, so you just have to avoid her.

Hope your parents are alright

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