Booster protection wanes after 10 weeks against omicron….

[Muchtoomuchtodo]

Just seen this on the BBC news
… mine was 13 1/2 weeks ago and I’ve just volunteered to cover extra shifts outside of my normal area of work in the NHS should the need arise.
Oh heck…..

I’m the last 2 years I’ve not known anyone to be seriously unwell with Covid.. I might have just been lucky, I know that. Makes me feel like I dont want to put my life on hold any more though

As I have no intention of being boosted every 10 weeks I wound change any plans due to this news. After 3 jabs and omicron showing mild for most this news won't affect what I do in anyway

The whole thing is going beyond a joke now. The hysteria and paranoia is fucking ridiculous.

No I'm not a conspiracy theorist and yes I've had both jabs but they can fuck off with the booster. It's a complete waste of time.

@Anotheryear2022

I’m the last 2 years I’ve not known anyone to be seriously unwell with Covid.. I might have just been lucky, I know that. Makes me feel like I dont want to put my life on hold any more though

Yes, you have just been lucky.

Of those I have known to be ill, I have known two deaths (beloved and previously vigorous (ie not moribund, not that old) parents of good friends) another who was on a ventilator for a week and, of those with long covid, a young fit healthy normal weight man in his 30s who took a full year to overcome debilitating breathlessness.

[quote Festivequiz]@Remmy123 - please tell my body that it’s just a mild virus! It didn’t get the memo!

Still too sick to work over a year after having it with debilitating fatigue, insomnia, memory issues and headaches. Just exactly HOW is that mild?[/quote]
Seeing omicron has only been around a few weeks I'm going to guess that's not what you've had to make you this unwell, neither was it delta which also appears milder than original covid

I don’t want vaccinating against a cold virus!. Yes people have died, but in all likelihood they would have anyway if they had caught any kind of coronavirus or any virus for that matter ..yes there have been a few outliers who were younger etc. But….same with the flu, and that’s here every year.

"I’m the last 2 years I’ve not known anyone to be seriously unwell with Covid."

I'd say that is lucky. I know a few people who have had long covid and in fact as a supply teacher I'm covering someone with it for four months and counting. I'm lucky enough not to have personally known anyone who has died of it but given the number of deaths I'm aware that is fortunate.

Then again my cev relatives haven't caught it yet but that is likely to change soon so I'm crossing fingers.

I had AZ and have been offered and MNRA booster. I posted upthread I’m not having the booster due to very nasty side effects. That graph shows the effectiveness would be just over 40% after 5-9%. I’ve so made the right choice not to get boosted. I could be bedridden after and idk how long. And for what? A booster, which would be ineffective by the time I could go out again… if I ever recovered enough.

"neither was it delta which also appears milder than original covid"

Sorry that total rubbish.

@Anotheryear2022

And my children won’t be getting vaccinated, which I know is an unpopular opinion. I’m double vaccinated (but no booster yet) but I’m not making the decision for my kids to be vaccinated until we know much more about the long term effects of the jabs (yes I know people will be horrified! And think I’m stupid!.. but that’s ok with me)

I don't think you're stupid at all. Other people's choices are just that - other people's choices. You have every right to make whichever decision you feel is best for yourself and your family

I sound heartless, and i’m really not! I think i’m just tired of it. It’s been a horrible 2 years.
Im autistic and hate how everything changed. Got used to it now (obviously, it’s been 2 years)
I just think it needs to end now.

I posted this yesterday on another booster thread about needing continuous boosters more than once a year.

If this is the case they will need to make a whole new vaccination team to do this for the housebound patients as it is not sustainable being done by the DN team, we are broken, expected to do vaccines as well as our normal visits, staff sickness etc, if someone goes off sick and another nurse is down to do just vaccines for their shift they are then needed to be taken off vaccines which means there is then a delay. The DN service cannot do this every so many months. Hopefully it will eventually just be once a year along with the flue vaccines which is more manageable

For me personally I don’t particularly want boosters every so many months either but will be strong armed into it unfortunately

walksen yes I probably am just lucky

Also I heard the booster only gives you 40 percent protection? I know it’s better than nothing but just adds to the feeling of “what’s the point”

@rockinghorsebadge scientific literature. Eggs released before CD11 are considered to be immature. Have a read up on it if you like.

(Bizarre that you chose to comment on that of all things, but hey ho!)

@anotherbrewplease

To be honest, I don’t think I can face yet another jab. Three vaccines in less than a year is a lot. Now they are talking about a fourth

I was offered another jab yesterday - for the pneumonia vaccine - which I happily took. Still don't get why having a jab to prevent you getting seriously ill is such a problem.

I have had 3 jabs, I have done my bit.

However, I have only ever been eligible for the flu vaccine when pregnant.

I am not in an at risk group so I’m not in the habit of even having a yearly vaccine let alone 3/4 in a year.

I was personally more than happy to get my initial two, was never that fussed about getting my third, but I did anyway ‘for the greater good’.

I probably will get a fourth if it’s offered to my age group but I am really hoping that it won’t be. Eventually they are going to just have to allow the low risk groups to just take their chances.

Plus it’s a massive task, the NHS has been carrying out a vaccine program for a whole year. How will the NHS ever catch up when they are carrying out a never ending vaccine program.

I suspected the booster didn't give protection for ever- I had Covid in November which I think will have given me a bit of protection on top of the two vaccines, but I can't find any data on that either way. I was planning on getting the booster at the end of January, which would take me through the winter- but I've had so much pressure to have it now I'm going to have it straight after Christmas, when I'm off work (I had a horrible reaction to the first vaccine, and didn't feel completely well again until just before I caught Covid- I'm not yet feeling 100% after Covid but I'm nearly there) I feel like it's a balancing game as to how long I leave it to get the booster. If I have it earlier than I need, I'll be left vulnerable in March.

@Anotheryear2022

And my children won’t be getting vaccinated, which I know is an unpopular opinion. I’m double vaccinated (but no booster yet) but I’m not making the decision for my kids to be vaccinated until we know much more about the long term effects of the jabs (yes I know people will be horrified! And think I’m stupid!.. but that’s ok with me)

I totally agree with this!

@herecomesthesun

We still need to wait until Omicron has been known to us for 10+ weeks before we can be certain how effective the booster is against this particular variabt and for how long. Everythibg beforehand is speculation.

The same article also says that it is highly likely that even IF the booster does wane after ten weeks, it is still highly likely to hold off serious illness for a longer period of time.

but for most people it is mild
i am over 10 weeks
i can't worry any more

@GreenLunchBox

Omicron is mild. I think we all need to just move on

It’s highly transmissible which is the issue.

Plus it’s a massive task, the NHS has been carrying out a vaccine program for a whole year. How will the NHS ever catch up when they are carrying out a never ending vaccine program

This is what I don't understand.

Part of the whole 'NHS being overwhelmed' stuff is due to the thousands of staff essentially reassigned just to jab. If those staff are permanently out - what will change?

Part of me wonders if the whole approach is just wrong. Maybe we'd do far better stopping the jabs altogether (except CEV, done in GP surgeries) and ploughing all those NHS staff back into the actual NHS...and spending part of the budget on oximeters which can help people to manage covid at home.

They probably did the study on people who already had the booster. Presumably there is a noticeable uptick in cases amongst those boosted 10+ weeks ago.

Is Omicron not a bit of a blessing? It’s like a free and mild longer lasting vaccine. Those who need a booster should have one but the healthy folk should get omicron and we can all start life again

@Anotheryear2022

I’m due my booster, going to book it for just after Xmas … but for what? I’m starting to not want it as I don’t see the point tbh. And yes I’m sure I’ll have everyone telling me I’m stupid. But am I? Really? If you actually think about it…I don’t know

I don't think you're stupid. I don't think anyone is stupid, whether they've had no jabs at all, or a hundred jabs. We live in a liberal democracy, where people are free to make their own decisions about their own body and lives. I personally want to keep it that way. The judgement, othering and hate that this pandemic time has caused (especially on Mumsnet) is its most destructive legacy in my view. Life is a risky business - at ALL times. If the government published daily fatalities for other reasons, people would be terrified to do anything! People make choices that differ from our own, all the time. We have to get back to accepting that. People are complicated, and have varied reasons for the decisions they make. I wonder if the ultra pious Covid bullies will look back with some contrition in years to come?