I’m just not doing this

[Peekapopple]

I just can’t. My DD has just started to get better from the hideous anxiety she suffered after the last lockdown/ home school. I am about to see my parents who I’ve not seen in two years . A circuit breaker will just turn in to another lockdown. I can’t sit and watch our town turn back in to a bleak ghost town. Boarded up cafes and shops as yet another business fails. Being shouted at in supermarkets for turning the wrong way by accident. Why the hell if the NHS is so unfit for purpose and so easily overwhelmed don’t the idiots in charge inject some cash in to it pronto. Recruit more staff, throw up some temporary buildings. Just bloody well get on with it. They’ve had plenty of time now to get organised. Stop workers having to keep isolating when they get it. Unless people are actually ill we should be in work. We have to see that this is just wrong now. It has to stop. Enough

Unless people are actually ill we should be in work
you’d be happy going for your smear test and being seen by a Covid positive nurse would you? I assume you don’t have any loved ones who are vulnerable? Would it be ok for your elderly relatives to visit the Covid positive Dr to check out a lump for example?

Have you seen the figures? My local hospital has 600 beds across the WHOLE hospital, the next nearest hospital is similar. It’s full to capacity every winter without Covid to consider but they can’t just have massive buildings with staff sat around twiddling their thumbs the rest of the time ‘just in case’.

That said, the underfunding of the NHS has been going on forever but people still keep voting the Conservatives in. I don’t know what the answer is but just letting infectious people carry on working, coughing over your cappuccino they are making you, isn’t the best idea.

Well you won’t have much choice if they close everything, I don’t agree with lock down but not much choice is there if they do one.

So what do you propose doing?

‘Recruit more staff’ - magic doctors, nurses, midwives & support workers from where exactly?!

‘Throw up some temporary buildings’ - lord, we have been using posh portacabin and vanguard operating theatres (AKA lorries) for over half a decade. Most MRI are done in the back of a van.

Tbf there hasn't really been time or opportunity since the start of the pandemic to fully train loads more doctors and nurses has there?

You can't genuinely think that it's takes less than two years to train doctors and nurses?

I do agree they need to fund the NHS properly though going forward.

How are they magically going to recruit more staff?

Wow OP, upset about the impact of lockdown but blinkered to the impact of the spread of COVID without it.

You can 'throw up a temporary building ' ( as you put it ) but where do you get the people to work in them from ?
To train a nurse or a doctor takes years
The staff in the existing hospitals are already extremely busy and burnt out or may even be isolating with covid.
You can't have just anyone in these buildings who don't know what they are doing!
It could cause more problems than it would solve.

I'm with you OP but you will get slated and screams of selfish on here.

However in the real non mumsnet world the majority of people feel like this which is why I think Boris is hedging his bets right now and hoping the virus is staying mild. And as for being seen by a covid positive nurse - I wouldn't have a problem with anyone with a mild asymptomatic condition treating me.

The pandemic is worldwide so health staff are needed in their own countries.... and takes time to train more anyway

Where are you going to magic up staff from?

People came out of retirement last time to work

I'm not all at scared of covid but I dont want to see covid positive people out and about working. Just because although I dont care if I catch covid I have empathy for those who are scared. I couldnt smell or taste anything for six months so although I was perfectly well with covid, it's not a cold.

Also the NHS. Nurses and Drs have to go to uni for years. It's highly skilled work. You cant just ask lots of people to take up advertised medical work.

I have a biology degree and have worked in medical research but I didnt meet criteria to volunteer to vaccinate. So not sure I could dispense medicine, change dressings or turn patients forget giving CPAP etc to covid patients.

Give me a billion pounds and five years and maybe I could give you more Drs and nurses then.

If you are a 'just get on with it' sort of person then just get on with your life. See your parents, take your dd to the cinema and ice-skating. Go to cafes so they won't go out of business and be boarded up.

As someone who has been trying to get a renovation done since the pandemic started I wish you all the best throwing up some buildings. There are hardly any tradesmen and getting materials is almost impossible.

Couldn't agree more. But no-one is allowed to get sick anymore 'cos we're all going to die, apparently. Utter shit. There won't be any more lockdowns. There's no money left and the vast majority of people won't comply. It's only on Mumsnet that everyone does as they're told🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Totally with you OP.

If we lockdown again then surely that's going to be our life every winter, what else is going to change? We're never going to have this high % of adults vaccinated and yet it's still everywhere.

Stop workers having to keep isolating when they get it. Unless people are actually ill we should be in work.

What a tremendous idea. This will work so well on the respiratory wards. Fantastic*!

• Fantastically incredibly stupid.

Why have you not seen your parents for 2 years?

Forcing covid positive people into work would just imprison vulnerable and anxious people at home, but that’s fine by you OP, we can just stick them in temporary hospitals with untrained staff and let them die 🤷‍♀️

It’s awful, another lockdown is the last thing I want, it’s not practical and it doesn’t work long term, I really don’t no what the answer is. But your selfish attitude of just letting hospitals be over full and forcing ill people to work is absolutely no better.

Go visit your parents if you want, we havnt been in lockdown for the whole 2 years, live your life OP.

Some of us can't even work (therefore not get paid) even if a family member has it! It's a shit show.

If you are not going to "do this" what exactly are you going to do?????

The nhs need to work on retaining staff before recruiting more.

U ok hun?

Crack on if you want to. And if you spend 5 hours in the back of an ambulance because there isn't a bed in the hospital, and no staff to care for you, you'll know better than to come on here and whine about it.

The nightingale hospital they opened is now a booster / vaccine clinic apparently, how much was spent on that in 2020 ?
They did not have enough staff to go and work in it anyway.

Your ignorance is astonishing