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They could at least have the decency to let people know...

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Loveatthe5anddime · 19/12/2021 11:43

We all know some kind of restrictions are coming, I don’t want to start the new year with rules in place but if the scientists think it’s the way forward I trust their judgment and will comply.

What I cannot get on board with however as all this hanging about....

Let people know what’s going on, flights and hotels will have been booked, family’s will have bought food accordingly or not on some instances if they were planning to visit friends and family, children will be excited to go to pantomimes, visit grandparents, restaurants will be ordering in stock for New Years parties...

Surely the very least the government can give us is a little time to manage expectations and re plan the next couple of weeks...

OP posts:
Furries · 19/12/2021 15:15

@Whammyyammy

Why do people so eagerly want a lockdown and all the misery thst comes with it? Do these lockdown worshippers enjoy see children not at school learning, socialising and for some trapped in an abusive home?

Is it satisfying to see people suffering MH issues, businesses closing, homes repossessed, unemployment, DV, poverty.... for a virus that has a very low death rat.
Lockdown simply delays the spread, we're all vaccinated or have had chance to be. Id happily never see another lockdown ever again.

I don’t think your comprehension skills are very good. The vast majority of people don’t WANT another bloody lockdown. They DO want to know if one is happening though because, you know, plans turn to shit and stuff!
Furries · 19/12/2021 15:18

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100problems · 19/12/2021 15:20

Instant popularity would be to leave off any notion of lockdown until NY day, then have a nice little 10 day lockdown until 10 January so no one has to go back to work/school. Instant compliance.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 19/12/2021 15:26

My dc are in Ireland, I'm just hoping they can fly back on the 2nd

Porfre · 19/12/2021 15:27

@100problems

Instant popularity would be to leave off any notion of lockdown until NY day, then have a nice little 10 day lockdown until 10 January so no one has to go back to work/school. Instant compliance.
Wish we'd get some time off- work in the NHS
100problems · 19/12/2021 15:33

Your speed impresses me @Porfre, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean

Toddlerteaplease · 19/12/2021 15:39

My sister is getting married on 4th January. Already postponed once. So really want it to happen this time. After that I don't care!

Livingthemagicyears · 19/12/2021 16:09

@MadinMarch

Why do people so eagerly want a lockdown and all the misery thst comes with it? Do these lockdown worshippers enjoy see children not at school learning, socialising and for some trapped in an abusive home?

Is it satisfying to see people suffering MH issues, businesses closing, homes repossessed, unemployment, DV, poverty.... for a virus that has a very low death rat.
Lockdown simply delays the spread, we're all vaccinated or have had chance to be. Id happily never see another lockdown ever again.

Do you seriously think anybody actually wants another lockdown?
The possibility of another one has little to do with death rates from Covid, and more to do with the infrastructure of the whole country and the amount of people that are ill and unable to work.
In that scenario, who's going to deliver food to the shops, and load the shelves? Who is going to drive the ambulances and provide lifesaving medical care- not just for Covid, but for car accidents, heart attacks, strokes , delivering babies etc etc etc? Who is going to run the power stations and run our water companies? etc etc etc.

People need to base their decisions about vaccinations, lock down and compliance on the wider ramifications, and stop thinking about just their 'little family'.
Sorry to say, but so many people can't see beyond the end of their nose.

this^^
Blanketpolicy · 19/12/2021 16:14

@Whammyyammy

Why do people so eagerly want a lockdown and all the misery thst comes with it? Do these lockdown worshippers enjoy see children not at school learning, socialising and for some trapped in an abusive home?

Is it satisfying to see people suffering MH issues, businesses closing, homes repossessed, unemployment, DV, poverty.... for a virus that has a very low death rat.
Lockdown simply delays the spread, we're all vaccinated or have had chance to be. Id happily never see another lockdown ever again.

Why do people ask same questions they already know the answer to, they just don't like it?
AnyFucker · 19/12/2021 16:18

have a nice little 10 day lockdown until 10 January so no one has to go back to work/school. Instant compliance.

Is that a joke ?

Momentsmatter · 19/12/2021 16:31

Yes it's absolutely ridiculous to make us all wait. Just get on and tell us so we can get things organised. I aren't cooking Christmas dinner so if they shut down last minute then that's no turkey for us.

In our town, cases are actually falling at the minute. But of course, we are up North and not in London so nobody gives a monkeys.

reesewithoutaspoon · 19/12/2021 16:35

Good public health is unnoticeable.
Problem they have is you need to take action 2 to 3 weeks before you get overwhelmed in hospitals, because that's the time lag from infection to getting ill enough to need hospital care.
Given that this virus is doubling every few days ad we still have ongoing delta at 50k a day, when do you sound the alarm. If you do it early enough no one notices because you avoided the worst repercussions, then you get people wondering why the hell we had a lockdown and assuming it was a over reaction on public health's part.
If you leave it too late you have excess deaths and overwhelmed public services and it takes longer to flatten the curve.
I wouldnt want to make that call.

I8toys · 19/12/2021 16:38

I think we are grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves. We were going to Gibraltar on 26th - I said no as I'm paying for extra testing and the possibility we could get covid and have to stay out there. Make a decision. I'm going out as much as I can - gigs, theatre, meals out until I can't.

100problems · 19/12/2021 16:38

Yes @AnyFucker although heavy sarcasm would be a better description.

thepeopleversuswork · 19/12/2021 16:42

@Whammyyammy

Don't be childish. Absolutely nobody wants lockdowns. People quite resaonably are worried and want to be able to plan.

CheshireKitten123 · 19/12/2021 16:47

OP,
You said
"What I cannot get on board with however as all this hanging about...."

You may be 'hanging about' but the government have to consider all the options, take on board scientists advice, have access to all the facts figures and costings of all the various scenarios and try and steer a middle ground to try and benefit as many people as possible and inconvenience as few as possible.

All this when we have a situation that is fluid and changing day by day, lobbying groups pressurising them from all sides and some unknown factors about the virulence of the virus.

Please try and see the broader picture.

tigger1001 · 19/12/2021 16:48

@100problems

Instant popularity would be to leave off any notion of lockdown until NY day, then have a nice little 10 day lockdown until 10 January so no one has to go back to work/school. Instant compliance.
I will be back at work, lockdown or not. Other than 8 weeks of furlough at the very start I've been working out of the home. As has my oh. We were both working last January and both kids were in school as keyworker kids.

My eldest is in an exam year this year - I don't want him missing any school if at all possible.

AnyFucker · 19/12/2021 17:00

Yes @AnyFucker although heavy sarcasm would be a better description

I was hoping it was sarcasm Smile

IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas · 19/12/2021 17:03

The government know the number of cases.

They know the rate of doubling.

They know hospitalisations in London have risen quite dramatically week on week.

They know other parts of the country are likely to follow suit over the next two weeks.

It's not going to fix itself is it?

The sooner they act the smaller the peak, the quicker and easier the fix.

Maths and Science say "Act Now."

But Politics says something different.

The longer they wait the more it's clear that they guided by Politics and not Science and Maths.

GiveMeNovocain · 19/12/2021 17:20

Didn't scientists say vaccination was our way out of this? Have we now decided they don't work? Everyone even slightly vulnerable was tremble vaccinated weeks ago

MarshaBradyo · 19/12/2021 17:24

I can’t see what you do after lockdown

Netherlands release on Jan 15 then what, high growth and same again in a few weeks

IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas · 19/12/2021 17:55

@GiveMeNovocain

Didn't scientists say vaccination was our way out of this? Have we now decided they don't work? Everyone even slightly vulnerable was tremble vaccinated weeks ago
Vaccines do most of the work.

But they don't work 100%

And 100% of the population hasn't had them.

IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas · 19/12/2021 17:56

@MarshaBradyo

I can’t see what you do after lockdown

Netherlands release on Jan 15 then what, high growth and same again in a few weeks

What did we do after the others?
MarshaBradyo · 19/12/2021 18:00

What did we do after the others?

I’d say the new variant doubling time means a fresh think on that…

TerraNovaTwo · 19/12/2021 18:01

@ConcernedAuntie

They can't tell us what they don't know yet. I think they are waiting to see what the hospitalisation numbers look like.
They know. Don't be so easily fooled.