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So disappointed that my mum may have risked Christmas.

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DontWantTheRivalry · 17/12/2021 11:14

My mum and dad love hosting Christmas Day - it’s been that way for about 15 years and all the family get together and it’s been a long running family tradition. There’s usually about 10-12 people in total.

Last year both parents (but especially my mum) were really upset that the family Christmas Day couldn’t go ahead because they see the event as such an important part of our family tradition. Some family members live in a different area of the country so it’s always been a lovey opportunity to get together.

Anyhow - over the last few months my parents have been getting into the festive mood and have been really excited about being able to host Christmas Day again and we’ve all really been looking forward to it. We all bring food contributions so the work load isn’t all on my parent’s shoulders and so we’ve all been planning it together etc.

However, I spoke to my mum last night and apparently on Wednesday night she went to a concert with some of her work friends to see a local band. She said it was in a small concert hall (so no ventilation) where everyone was singing and nobody had to wear masks. She said there were about 300 people there.

I was just gobsmacked.

I asked her why she would take that risk 10 days before Christmas when she is hosting everyone and especially when three of the family members are over 70 years old (although they are generally very well for their age).

She said “I won’t catch it”
I asked how she knew and she said after a very long pause, “I just won’t”

She said that as she is triple vaccinated she will be fine and that she had “been good” as she had her App turned on Confused I felt so exasperated and told her the App doesn’t stop people picking Covid up from someone else though!

I gently told her that I thought she was mad to have taken the risk.

I’m so disappointed - not so much for all of the family because if my mum/dad did get unwell and had to isolate then the rest of us would have Christmas Dinner somewhere else (me and husband would be happy to host) but I know my mum will be devastated again if she has to miss out on our traditional family celebration.

I just don’t understand why she’d take the risk.

I spoke to my sister about it this morning and she thinks I was out of order to express how I felt or try to make our mum feel guilty, and yes, maybe I was and my intention certainly wasn’t to guilt-trip her, but I was just so shocked when she told me.

I really hope she doesn’t catch it because she’s going to be so upset if she has to miss out on Christmas Day.

I know it was my mum’s risk to take but if she gets unwell I’m still going to feel so upset for her. It will put such a dampener on Christmas Day if she can’t be a part of it with the rest of us.

I just had to vent!!

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lljkk · 18/12/2021 09:03

It's threads like this that make me want to live like a hermit forever more. Especially to avoid other people's opinions on what I should or shouldn't do.

I always feel like life is precarious, could be snatched away from any of us at any time. For that reason quality of life is way more important than quantity. If someone wants to enjoy an activity, company of others, this shouldn't be treated like a moral failing.

I hope OP's mum had a great time at the concert & that OP can make peace with her mother living life today not always for tomorrow.

DontWantTheRivalry · 18/12/2021 09:04

Of course I would be worried about getting it and potentially giving to others - I imagine most people have that degree of concern.

But this thread wasn’t really about me and my worries about catching it, it’s just about my being shocked that my mum had put herself at increased risk of catching the virus so close to an important family gathering.

She knew that some of us had sacrificed our work Christmas parties in order to try and reduce the risk of catching Covid because of the potential impact on our planned Christmas Day so it stings a little that my mum didn’t do the same.

But at the end of the day, I just don’t want her to get Covid (and potentially pass it to my dad) and then have to miss out on Christmas Day with the rest of us. I was looking forward to us all being together.

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VikingOnTheFridge · 18/12/2021 09:19

@DontWantTheRivalry

Of course I would be worried about getting it and potentially giving to others - I imagine most people have that degree of concern.

But this thread wasn’t really about me and my worries about catching it, it’s just about my being shocked that my mum had put herself at increased risk of catching the virus so close to an important family gathering.

She knew that some of us had sacrificed our work Christmas parties in order to try and reduce the risk of catching Covid because of the potential impact on our planned Christmas Day so it stings a little that my mum didn’t do the same.

But at the end of the day, I just don’t want her to get Covid (and potentially pass it to my dad) and then have to miss out on Christmas Day with the rest of us. I was looking forward to us all being together.

You and her both seem to have a not very healthy level of involvement in each other's personal choices regarding covid precautions.
DontWantTheRivalry · 18/12/2021 09:22

You and her both seem to have a not very healthy level of involvement in each other's personal choices regarding covid precautions.

Me not wanting my mum to miss out on Christmas is me having an “unhealthy” involvement?!

And which of my “personal choices” does she have an unhealthy involvement in?

I have no idea what your comment means.

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VikingOnTheFridge · 18/12/2021 09:23

Accidentally posted before finished there... I don't think that level of involvement is helpful for either of you. You'd both be better off accepting that you have different attitudes and priorities here.

VikingOnTheFridge · 18/12/2021 09:25

@DontWantTheRivalry

You and her both seem to have a not very healthy level of involvement in each other's personal choices regarding covid precautions.

Me not wanting my mum to miss out on Christmas is me having an “unhealthy” involvement?!

And which of my “personal choices” does she have an unhealthy involvement in?

I have no idea what your comment means.

You thinking it was appropriate to question her about her decision like you did and feeling that it stings because she chose to do something you wouldn't have is you getting unhealthily involved in her personal choices. Her not wanting people to di LFTs is the same. Both of you are overstepping. You'd both do better to work on accepting that you feel differently on this issue.
MalagaNights · 18/12/2021 09:31

'Shocked' an adult chose to go to a concert??

Disagreed with her personal level of risk assessment is what it really is.

But 'shock' is very emotive and judgemental.

We should all be shocked we're judging other people, even loved ones, for small personal decisions.

That's shocking.

And if you're all vaxed you're 'risking' a mild illness like every other Christmas.

CatsArePeople · 18/12/2021 09:37

YABVU
This new religion is going out of hand

lemmein · 18/12/2021 10:15

*Everyone is so individualistic and never think / care about their impact on others.

If we all thought more collectively and less individualistically we perhaps wouldn't be (quite so far) up sh!t creek without a paddle as we are currently.*

This is so unfair - people have restricted themselves for 2 years for a virus which is unlikely to affect the majority. Kids have missed out on education, people are seeing businesses they've spent years building up being destroyed, families have been kept apart, loved ones dying alone in hospital.

The vast majority have lined up like good little citizens to get the 1st....2nd....3rd jabs - people have stayed away from the NHS to allow it to focus on covid; it took 18 month for people to even start questioning the blatant lack of basic healthcare in this country.

Seriously, fuck off with your 'people don't care about others' it's insulting to those who have really suffered over the last 2 years!

lemmein · 18/12/2021 10:17

@CorsicaDreaming

*@lemmein*

"If...if...if - most reports are saying omicron is more on par with a cold, would you cancel Xmas for a cold?"

This is 100% incorrect after research reported today. It's just as bad as Delta.

Source? I haven't seen any data which suggests that Confused
Swirlywoo · 18/12/2021 10:24

I'd get that you might raise an eyebrow OP but this is an overreaction. Last Christmas was crap and miserable, if your DM had a nice time at a concert then good for her.

I did get Covid last Christmas and I still think you are overinvested in her (adult) decisions.

Kjcf · 18/12/2021 10:31

Because your mum is probably fed up living like this that’s why! Quality of life is important as you get older!

SpookyScarySkeletons · 18/12/2021 10:37

Major overreaction. You could catch covid anywhere. Really is it selfish of your mum to enjoy an evening out?? Because it might impact you Hmm

FWIW I have been hiding away for almost 2 years. We have been incredibly careful. I caught covid from my DD who caught it from a friend when they went to Pizza Hut for a birthday meal.

Your mum could just as easily catch it in a supermarket. Are you insisting everyone isolates from now until Christmas??

AliceAldridge · 18/12/2021 11:06

After a year of doing nothing I caught it from my DH who caught it from our plumber. Assume you have banned essential house maintenance too?

lljkk · 18/12/2021 11:21

We're planning to visit my elderly parents soon -- expensive, exhausting trip far away.
They are Covid paranoid in most respects. They condemn the unvaccinated & would refuse to socialise with anyone unvaccinated (almost only outdoor socialising only, too) but...
my dad goes does his indoor "public" hobby most days. In crowded not well-ventilated rooms full of perfect strangers. Dad wears his mask with nose out while there.

There's no logic to that. Underscores reasons why I'm not taking extraordinary measures to avoid Covid myself prior to visit.

toomuchlaundry · 18/12/2021 11:30

Why are people saying she can just as easily catch it in a supermarket. Most supermarkets have some forms of mitigation eg masks, ventilation, some space between customers, not staying there for over an hour, no singing. Much more likely to catch it in an unventilated hall, no masks and 300 people close together singing

Roundeartheratchriatmas · 18/12/2021 11:40

I too would be a bit shocked given some of you have sacrificed smaller events to ensure your Christmas goes ahead.

There’s no reason you can’t express that to her.

But unfortunately there’s not much more you can do about it.

lemmein · 18/12/2021 11:48

I really wonder why people bothered to get vaccinated tbh - the level of paranoia for some seems to be at the same level as this time last year. Just, what was the point? Or, do people have no faith in the vaccines? In which case, why so much vitriol towards the unvaccinated?

The hysteria around covid blows my mind, not being goady at all, it genuinely mystifies me. It's like people getting ill and dying is a new unacceptable thing - and now we have a vaccine which largely protects against the dying bit and still some want to keep hidden away. When does it end? Confused

toomuchlaundry · 18/12/2021 11:53

It’s not that people want to stay hidden away, but if you are someone who puts great stock on a family Christmas, you would think you would be minimising your risk of isolating a few weeks before Christmas. And it isn’t just COVID. Some friends of ours are just getting over a sickness bug, I will be giving them the swerve at the moment as would hate to get that and risk not seeing my DM at Christmas

JurgensCakeBabyJesus · 18/12/2021 11:58

You're being completely over the top, they're are more than 300 people in Tesco, after you demanding she stays at home and has only food deliveries? Your mum as an adult had made her risk assessment and decided the risk was worth it, whether you agree with that or not. If she catches Covid and can't have the Christmas she wants, that's a natural consequence.
You know lots of us are face to face with many people day after day and have been throughout, should we be expected to take those risks daily but not see anyone else or socialise, it's ridiculous? If I was your mum I'd tell you if you were that bothered to cook your own Christmas dinner.

JurgensCakeBabyJesus · 18/12/2021 12:01

@toomuchlaundry none of those mitigations were in place when I did my grocery shop yesterday, half the people with no masks absolutely rammed to the hilt, heating on full blast, whole families out shopping together, no social distancing, people leaning across you to get to things etc. Took me nearly two hours to get round and pay, I'd rather have gone to a concert and had my shopping delivered.

Muchmorethan · 18/12/2021 12:08

@DontWantTheRivalry

Of course I would be worried about getting it and potentially giving to others - I imagine most people have that degree of concern.

But this thread wasn’t really about me and my worries about catching it, it’s just about my being shocked that my mum had put herself at increased risk of catching the virus so close to an important family gathering.

She knew that some of us had sacrificed our work Christmas parties in order to try and reduce the risk of catching Covid because of the potential impact on our planned Christmas Day so it stings a little that my mum didn’t do the same.

But at the end of the day, I just don’t want her to get Covid (and potentially pass it to my dad) and then have to miss out on Christmas Day with the rest of us. I was looking forward to us all being together.

Unfortunately you won't know if they do have it as they're not going to test!
User9911 · 18/12/2021 12:32

Yabvu

Pl242 · 18/12/2021 12:58

Think you’re getting quite a hard time on here OP! I understand your surprise at your Mum’s actions given the emphasis she’s played on Christmas. And c’mon, for those saying a concert with that capacity is as risky as popping into the shops with a mask on? Come on.

It’s a really rubbish time at the moment and the situation has changed so quickly. Boris has been as useless as ever in leading the country on this, so there is a politically supported view of people carrying on as normal without any sense of repercussions for them individually (having to isolate through Christmas or unwittingly passing it on to a relative through a lateral flow that showed up negative despite carrying symptoms) or for all of us as a society (it doesn’t matter if you’re triple vaccinated, if the overall case numbers get so high, then even if a small % need hospitalisation then the NHS is overwhelmed and we’re all screwed).

I know a lot of people carrying on as normal and just saying la la la about any negative consequences. It’s tempting. It’s been such a crap time for everyone and for this all to hit the fan at Christmas again is really galling. But that’s where we are. And the longer the government/society ignores that fact the longer the pain will go on into next year. I mean that’s exactly what happened last year and it seems like the lesson has still not been learned.

OliveTree75 · 18/12/2021 13:11

Yabu. She is an adult. Hope she enjoyed the concert!