I'm DONE with Covid, omicron and want to get on with my life - is anyone else with me?

[coatilove]

Honestly at this point I'm done with it, I'm surprised people are complying so much with mask wearing and everything else - I thought the vaccine was freedom. Turns out I was wrong.

I've had enough - I'm not wearing my mask indoors and hope if there's a lockdown every business keeps its doors open and boycotts the decision.

I'm really surprised people are being so compliant, even if they have natural immunity and have been jagged (I have now had Covid and both jabs)

I can't be selfless anymore and keep getting boosters to protect others and stopping life, constant anxiety, life I feel should be going on now. Enough sacrifices have been made.

Aware I'll get flamed, but at the end of my tether with all of this now.

There are plenty of diseases that kill people, we have to accept the death rate now enough is enough.

If you've been vaccinated then what else do you intend to do? If you haven't then more fool you.

[quote loveandkindness]@riveted1 You wrote - "There are no credible epidemiologists who are recommending against vaccination of the general population."

You are wrong.

Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD, independent virologist and vaccine expert, formerly employed at GAVI and The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation said:

"Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants."

People don't understand the difference between sterilising and non-sterilising vaccine. They also don't understand the differences between infections diseases. Respiratory corona viruses are prone to mutations and are difficult to control.[/quote]
I have posted a fair bit on Van Bossche.

He is it not an expert (i.e., does not have a portifolio of relevant research, nor actually any research publised), and his views are not evidence based.

You can always find someone with a dr title to back you views, but I would ask yourself while 99% of credible experts disagree.

ugh so many typos

I would ask yourself why 99% of experts disagree

I think the people telling you to get over yourself are the same people who enjoyed lockdown aka the people whose lives arent really impacted by any of the restrictions.

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them?

If the booster is ineffective against omicron then why should we get it?

If the pass/QR code is not sufficient and despite being jabbed we need to do tests..then why should we agree to carry a pass/code?

Jeez some of the comments on here !!! I know if 3 suicides 2 my friends /people business going busy /poverty etc and yes Arthur's case would have been picked up by the school if no lockdown !!!! Men's suicides are up , my mental health is rapidly declining !! But save the nhs .. which has lost 100,000 icu beds in the last 50 years so excuse me but no I won't be locking down (obs can't go places if not open ) abc remember this is not like other pandemics cause this fucking virus is man made so who knows what it will do !!!

@XmasSadface exactly. 100% agree with everything you've said.

@XmasSadface

I think the people telling you to get over yourself are the same people who enjoyed lockdown aka the people whose lives arent really impacted by any of the restrictions.

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them?

If the booster is ineffective against omicron then why should we get it?

If the pass/QR code is not sufficient and despite being jabbed we need to do tests..then why should we agree to carry a pass/code?

The main issue with your post is that none of the statements in your rhetorical questions are correct

@XmasSadface

I think the people telling you to get over yourself are the same people who enjoyed lockdown aka the people whose lives arent really impacted by any of the restrictions.

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them?

If the booster is ineffective against omicron then why should we get it?

If the pass/QR code is not sufficient and despite being jabbed we need to do tests..then why should we agree to carry a pass/code?

So true !

@FOJN

I've sent covid to the naughty step to reflect on what it's done. I gently explained that Omicron behaviour was totally unacceptable and we were all very disappointed in it.

I'm expecting a sincere apology and life to return to normal within 24 hours.

Honestly, I don't know why someone didn't do it sooner.

Sorry everyone covid says virus gonna virus whether we like it or not.

Very funny and witty.

No one expects it to go away, people expected that after the elderly and vulnerable (98.8% of Covid deaths) are double vaccinated that we can treat it like any other virus/illness, accept the risk, accept people die and get on with our fucking lives.

It's a virus with over96% full survival rate without vaccines and people think these restrictions (a lot of them such as masks and passports that have no proven health benefits) are justifiable. Its absolutely mind blowing.

And before anyone starts with the NHS, it's been in its knees for years under Tory cuts. When did it become our responsibility to put our lives on hold for this particular virus ?all the while people are dying and getting treated in their millions through self inflicted illnesses?

[quote coatilove]@XmasSadface exactly. 100% agree with everything you've said.

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@coatilove

Why do you ignore every reply that doesn't agree with you though? So many posters have explained why it's not feasible to drop all coronavirus suppression measures.

You could try and consider what would realistically happen if all measures were dropped? It wouldn't be you merrily going about normal life, is the issue.

I sympathise with you.

We had the vaccines, we tried the lockdowns, we wore masks, basically we 'behaved' while the government and their chums continued to party and made money out of the pandemic.

I am done too.

The 'whatabout the NHS' argument: again the government has done nothing to improve its capacity and try to find ways to make it work more efficiently and actually prepare for the winter. The nightingales have been mothballed . Johnson could not even be arsed to warn GPs before Sundays that the booster programme was being turbo-charged. The NHS had been on its knees every winter for years but the Tories never cared about funding it properly.

As for those who say 'you can't pretend that the virus has gone away'. Actually it is the opposite: we need to accept that his virus is not going anywhere and that life therefore has to carry on.

I also agree that hospitals need to stop prioritising Covid. How many people who could still have many years of life in front of them do we want to see die of cancer, heart attack and so on so that we can keep someone with Covid who has lived past the average life expectation alive for a few more weeks? Tough choice but at some point we will need to face this.

As for those who say 'you can't pretend that the virus has gone away'. Actually it is the opposite: we need to accept that his virus is not going anywhere and that life therefore has to carry on.

Exactly this 👆

I don't expect the virus to go away it's here to stay I know. I'm just saying I no longer and letting it rule my life.

So true !

I think the OP should get over themselves, I have a CEV relative, I hated lockdown and my life is impacted by restrictions-I have to wear a mask all day at work, at the job I can't do from home. So actually not true!

I also agree that hospitals need to stop prioritising Covid.

What do you suggest hospitals do @ElectraBlue?

Leave patients to die in the streets? Refuse an ambulance for anything COVID related?

[quote MrsHastingslikethebattle]@DismantledKing, I meant muzzled as a figure of speech.
People see it as it's just a mask. It's not, it's a piece of cloth over your face, that constructs your breathing, talking, affects your skin along with the fact theres not a single shred of evidence that they actually work[/quote]
Paper by 18 experts which shows the data "indicate[s] that mask wearing reduces transmissibility per contact by reducing transmission of infected respiratory particles in both laboratory and clinical contexts. Public mask wearing is most effective at reducing spread of the virus when compliance is high.".

Paper from one of the world's oldest medical journals which found that "face mask-wearing is associated with a higher probability of transmission control".

This paper from the British Medical Journal, authored by a clinical epidemiology and public health expert amongst about 15 others which found "45.7% fewer covid-19 related mortality in countries where mask wearing was mandatory".

...With respect, what the everliving fuck are you talking about?

@Thethingswedidanddidntdo

Also out of interest, if you or anyone you love needs medical treatment for any kind of illness or emergency, are you OK with tje fact that due to your actions and those of others like you, they may well not get it?

^this. We read on here and in the news daily of people who need health care and are not getting in. My Dc1 who is immunocompromised and saw a consultant at least 3 monthly, plus phlebotomy, nurse specialist, dietian and peg nurse. Has not seen consultant since January 2020 and only sees other professionals when necessary. I've been waiting two years and 5 months for an operation which is scheduled for January however if hospital admissions increase it will not go ahead as I need an itu bed. How would you feel about mask wearing if you or your family member needed medical attention?

It’s the same sad old names over and over again, isn’t it? Having their daily tantrums about Covid and obsessively detailing their wild rebel spirit. Keeps them off the streets I suppose.

I agree op but unfortunately people are hysterically rubbing their hands for more handouts/grants/furlough.
Quite content that the rest of the economy gets screwed

Pretending to be bothered about heroically save the NHS and the vulnerable.
It's so obvious.
Do better.

Everyone is over it. Everyone is 'done'. You're not special.

But if everyone refused to wear a mask or behave responsibly (I.e isolating after testing positive) what sort of chaos would the country be in then?

For me it's not about following rules and blindly complying, it's about doing the right thing to keep myself, my family and other people safe. This isn't going away and we do need to learn to live with it but when cases are going off the chart like they are now then a bit of sensible behaviour from everyone would probably calm things down a bit don't you think?

As for wearing a mask...unless you are medically exempt I will never understand what the issue is. It's a bit of cloth over your face for a short period of time and it could save someone's life. Even if it doesn't do that it could make someone vulnerable feel safer while they're out doing their shopping. Why would you not?

@DismantledKing

It’s the same sad old names over and over again, isn’t it? Having their daily tantrums about Covid and obsessively detailing their wild rebel spirit. Keeps them off the streets I suppose.

It's all very Violet Elizabeth Bott for me.

I think everyone is done with it - as in we are all fed up
I mean I really enjoy wearing FFP2 mask that's so tight it marks me, not being able to go out with friends or work, WFH for 2 years, the constant letters reminding me I might die, and realising I'm home alone for the whole of Christmas and NY as it's too risky for me to go for a Christmas meal with family
It's great(!) but it's just what I have to do for myself

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them?

Possibly the densest thing I have read all week!

[quote coatilove]@Thethingswedidanddidntdo you're completely missing my point this isn't just about masks though is it. It's about regular jabs, when you probably don't even need it.

It's about threats of lockdowns, being told not to socialise.

Stop trying to make my post seem like it's just the masks I'm frustrated about.

It's the indefinite cycle of constraint requests to help stop the spread of Covid. After being told the vaccine was the last of it.

Now I'm questioning when the real end will be? No one knows so how long should I expected to comply?

We all die one day, not sure why humans seem to think we are so precious to be honest. And I'm including myself in that - I'm not immortal but it feels like some people think it's their given right to live forever or something.

Should we not accept Covid as a killer eventually? [/quote]
Do you think people have crystal balls and know how long this will k lol ast?

@XmasSadface

I think the people telling you to get over yourself are the same people who enjoyed lockdown aka the people whose lives arent really impacted by any of the restrictions.

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them?

If the booster is ineffective against omicron then why should we get it?

If the pass/QR code is not sufficient and despite being jabbed we need to do tests..then why should we agree to carry a pass/code?

If vaccines arent helping relieve pressure on hospitals...then why are we having them? They are.

If the booster is ineffective against omicron then why should we get it? It is. Effective =/= "will never catch Covid".

If the pass/QR code is not sufficient and despite being jabbed we need to do tests..then why should we agree to carry a pass/code? It's a mitigating measure, i.e. better than doing nothing at all.

"I also agree that hospitals need to stop prioritising Covid."

Exactly how do you envisage this happening? Are you proposing that Covid patients aren't treated?