I'm DONE with Covid, omicron and want to get on with my life - is anyone else with me?

[coatilove]

Honestly at this point I'm done with it, I'm surprised people are complying so much with mask wearing and everything else - I thought the vaccine was freedom. Turns out I was wrong.

I've had enough - I'm not wearing my mask indoors and hope if there's a lockdown every business keeps its doors open and boycotts the decision.

I'm really surprised people are being so compliant, even if they have natural immunity and have been jagged (I have now had Covid and both jabs)

I can't be selfless anymore and keep getting boosters to protect others and stopping life, constant anxiety, life I feel should be going on now. Enough sacrifices have been made.

Aware I'll get flamed, but at the end of my tether with all of this now.

There are plenty of diseases that kill people, we have to accept the death rate now enough is enough.

If you've been vaccinated then what else do you intend to do? If you haven't then more fool you.

@Tealightsandd The famously effective war on drugs?!

Maybe it's because I have an immunosuppressed relative, but long before Covid it was absolutely standard for me to miss social events and stay home if I or someone in my household had flu, or norovirus, or any other contagious illness that seemed more serious than a bit of a cold.

Pre-covid normal for me would still involve limiting social contact if I might be contagious.

[quote MrsHastingslikethebattle]@loveandkindness the flu has gone to the same place the delta variant is in hiding.

I mean when someone dies with Covid usually from an underlying health condition they may have died from anyway how do they know which variant they're dying from? Are they testing for it?[/quote]

It's clear from this and your last few posts that you haven't thought this through, or have hairy hands. The mitigation methods used for Covid are also effective for influenza. That's why it's largely been missing - although I did receive a good dose myself this past (southern hemisphere) winter because I had some ill-advised chips while out.

Now, when someone dies with Covid with and underlying health condition, they die of Covid and the other condition. It is fairly obvious really. Covid is a severe, multi-system disease, and if the body is already vulnerable, it would not be able to cope. Denying this is the ultimate in foolishness when we have been presented with all the facts for many months now.

[quote pucelleauxblanchesmains]@Tealightsandd The famously effective war on drugs?![/quote]
Very ineffective war, you're right.

The point is, regardless of whether it's a good or bad policy, there is at least one policy that has global agreement.

[quote MrsHastingslikethebattle]@housemaus I could link about 10 articles if I could be arsed finding them that they don't. No correlation between mask mandate countries and those who haven't.
If people were masks correctly, didnt touch them with their hands, flung them away or disposed of them after each use, then yeah I'm inclined to agree but people don't.

Why the god damn hell should people be forced to wear masks to stop getting a virus with 98% full survival rate and your most likely to get mild symptoms?[/quote]
So do masks work, or not?

They either work or they don't work (and according to peer reviewed papers in leading medical journals they do - interested to see the articles you conveniently can't be arsed to find, though).

Lack of proper use is a different question altogether - would you say condoms don't work if people kept putting them on their feet? No, you'd say they worked but people needed to use them properly. The issue is people being stupid, not masks themselves.

@DaisyWaldron
The point is, as you said.. "if I had..something more serious than a cold"
Obviously if you have flu or noro you stay home until you are better and you don't see clinical vulnerable or elderly.
But we don't randomly test ourselves endlessly for these things incase we are an asymptomatic carrier...
We don't stay home and isolate with a minor sore throat.
Interesting thread earlier this week about testing.. No other eur country seems to be handing out lft and suggesting endless testing.
Most posters from Europe saying only available testing is if have symptoms. Most have never had lft...

@SylvesterTheCat

I agree with you OP.

Are we going to be wearing masks and getting regular booster jabs in years to come??

I have had my two vaccines and that's what we agreed. Why did we all have these vaccines if we're in the same bloody situation as before?

A mutating virus doesn't care what you agreed.

Lots of people get flu boosters yearly because the virus mutates and we adapt the vaccine accordingly, are you against that too?

The reason you had the vaccine was to reduce your risk of catching the virus in the first place and to reduce serious illness if you do. If you're vaccinated, you're not 'in the same bloody situation', you're less likely to get seriously ill. Given that the efficacy fades over time (which is the case with many vaccines) a booster increases that protection.

What about that don't you get?

I think we’re closer to the end than many think. The Pfizer pill is spectacularly effective, and will soon be rolled out everywhere, cutting deaths in the vulnerable. Boosters are effective, there will be a multivariate vaccine in the not too distant future, and Omicron could be the most moderate variant yet.

This may be one last test. Hang in there.

I’ve been recovering for three months now.

I wish I was done with it.

And I wish life was as simple as you think with no complexities and knock on effects to health care.

I can't believe that people find having a vaccine to be such a burden. Do you not bother to immunise your DC against illness because it is all such an effort or hassle?

‘I’m done with it’ is such a ridiculous thing to say. We’re all fed up stop acting so spoilt. It’s basic…..if Covid spreads unabated the NHS and other critical services will grind to a halt. That won’t be pretty. Restrictions are just trying to manage us through the peak.

Wearing a mask, getting a booster, limiting contact……not a huge ask really.

Can someone explain to me exactly how a Moderna ‘booster’ after two AZ vaccines works? How can it be a booster when it’s a completely different vaccine? It’s a nonsense.

@LookslovelyinSpringtime

Can someone explain to me exactly how a Moderna ‘booster’ after two AZ vaccines works? How can it be a booster when it’s a completely different vaccine? It’s a nonsense.

There is evidence that having a different type of vaccine for a booster actually increases the immune response so not nonsense at all. Have a read up on it.

@LookslovelyinSpringtime

Can someone explain to me exactly how a Moderna ‘booster’ after two AZ vaccines works? How can it be a booster when it’s a completely different vaccine? It’s a nonsense.

Yes, lots of people can, and have, explained it. Google will provide you with multiple sources explaining it in simplified language.

Both kinds of vaccines expose immune systems to the spike protein, mRNA vaccines do this more efficiently and effectively. A third dose (not unusual with vaccines) provides further instruction to your immune system and makes your response more robust.

Further vaccines may be necessary because of virus mutation and adjusted vaccines tailored to that.

It’s not nonsense, you don’t understand it and don’t want to.

I don’t understand how microchips work but they do.

And would you feel the same if you broke your leg, had a cancer scare, in a RTA and realised that the hospital had no room for you as it was full of covid patients? Because if we don't try and control the numbers that is what will happen. It has a knock on effect on everything else.

@coatilove

Im sorry you are getting flamed for having an opinion! I am totally with you, i feel so pissed off that whilst we've all been abiding the rules like f*cking sheep, Boris and his clan are partying during the 1st lockdown when i couldnt see my grandparents (one of whom has dementia and has suffered massively from no interaction with the outside world) they were living it up.

I, like you are totally f*cking fed up of this life and the NHS was overwhelmed in the winter long before covid came... infact covid was such a strain on the NHS none of the nightingale hospitals were used.. go figure?!

I am tripple jabbed now and im not having anymore of my rights taken from me, i refuse to be punished for the people in hospital that refused the vaccine.

I do think the worm is turning though, look at the election results in Shropshire... people will vote with their feet!

We are all sick of it. Those that have to nurse the dying must be really sick of it. I've had my booster, wear a mask and am trying to avoid drunken nights down the pub in the run up to Christmas. It's not that much really.

@luinagreine

I didn't realise you can't 'get on with life' and wear a mask at the same time

It's not just wearing as mask though is it. You can hardly get on with life with the constant anxiety that something you're looking forward to might be cancelled. No travel for 2 years, Christmas last year cancelled, Christmas this year still not 'normal', life in general isn't normal, people have had weddings cancelled, big life events cancelled etc etc etc it's not as if current life is the same as 2019 but with masks!

[quote Bunglemom]@coatilove

Im sorry you are getting flamed for having an opinion! I am totally with you, i feel so pissed off that whilst we've all been abiding the rules like f*cking sheep, Boris and his clan are partying during the 1st lockdown when i couldnt see my grandparents (one of whom has dementia and has suffered massively from no interaction with the outside world) they were living it up.

I, like you are totally f*cking fed up of this life and the NHS was overwhelmed in the winter long before covid came... infact covid was such a strain on the NHS none of the nightingale hospitals were used.. go figure?!

I am tripple jabbed now and im not having anymore of my rights taken from me, i refuse to be punished for the people in hospital that refused the vaccine.

I do think the worm is turning though, look at the election results in Shropshire... people will vote with their feet![/quote]
Who do think was going to staff the Nightingale hospitals? Magic medical fairies?

If your answer is 'the army' then you still haven't worked out what the Nightingale's were actually for. Be very thankful that we needed need them.

More petulant toddler nonsense and another person wanting a medal for bravely taking a free life saving vaccine.

Yawn.

At the end of the day it's a lose/lose situation.

Keep restrictions = you can't get on with normal life

Get rid of all restrictions - lots of people become ill at once and everyone has to close due to staff illness = you can't get on with normal life

@Bunglemom the whole 'following like sheep' sentiment is so childish and pointless. People aren't following the government. After what has emerged in the last few weeks most sensible people have zero faith left in the government. We're not little lemmings hanging on their every word and doing as we're told just because Boris said it.

But if you use you own brain and judgement (the opposite of this silly sheep notion) it's obvious what you need to do to keep people safe. Wear a mask, test regularly, isolate if you're positive. These are really simple things and if it keeps other people and my family in particular safe then I will do them. Not because I'm a sheep but because I'm doing the right thing.

People throwing in the towel now because they have had enough....I do understand your frustrations but surely you see that you're only going to contribute to more misery and more NHS pressure. How is that improving anything for anyone?

On the plus side, where OP's post would have got her called a 'murderer' on here last year, it's a rather more accepted view now which says a lot. In real life, very few people I know support any form of lockdown.

@NovemberNovemberDarkNights

I'll tell you what I'm 'done with' ... patiently explaining things to people thicker than mince & trouble makers/shit stirrers.

And who don't listen to or respond to anything that they don't want to hear

OP - how can you unilaterally say that you are 'done' with it when a huge and serious pandemic still exists around us? Can you not see that this is a very childish attitude? I for one am still following every single rule, have had my booster, will not be visiting any more shops before Christmas, have not the slightest inclination to go to a pub, restaurant or other venue where large crowds gather, and am still washing and sanitising at every opportunity, wearing my mask and yes, disposable gloves as well.

But if you use you own brain and judgement (the opposite of this silly sheep notion) it's obvious what you need to do to keep people safe. Wear a mask, test regularly, isolate if you're positive.

For the rest of our lives? Yeah, don't think most people are on board with that.