When they say that 5-11 year olds can have the vaccine.. will your 5-11 year old be having it?

[Dayrider]

They have put this through in USA so guessing it will come soon here.
I would have it for my DD but my husband doesn’t want her to.
What are you going to do?

Important to note that this paper is using UK data so not using data from 5-11 year olds so not directly relevant to the benefit/risk assessment for this age group, but getting so frustrated with every thread being bogged down with misinformation.

I am interested to see the JCVI decision on vaccination in this age group, especially now Dingwall is out.

Given that it's the only form of protection for that age group, yes I will OP. Long term effects of covid scare me more than the vaccine.

uh @MNHQ I point out the issues with posting content from hate speech website bitchute and you hide my post? But bitchute links & vaccine misinformation are fine to stay up?

@riveted1

uh *@MNHQ* I point out the issues with posting content from hate speech website bitchute and you hide my post? But bitchute links & vaccine misinformation are fine to stay up?

Hate speech?

Yup @wasthataburp Bitchute hosts racist, facist & hateful content, amongst being a hotbed for vaccine misinformation. I think you should be able to find vaccine misinformation videos on other platforms to link to MN without giving them further revenue..

@riveted1

Yup *@wasthataburp* Bitchute hosts racist, facist & hateful content, amongst being a hotbed for vaccine misinformation. I think you should be able to find vaccine misinformation videos on other platforms to link to MN without giving them further revenue..

How is a quote from one of the inventors of the technology misinformation exactly?

Have posted on the issues regarding Robert Malone, and his many false claims (including being the "inventor of mRNA technology" ), with links, but it seems to just be a drop in the ocean.

The video you linked is more of the same.

By all means don't go ahead with vaccination for your child if not comfortable (and if it's even offered to 5-11 year olds), but I wouldn't be using bitchute videos to inform your decision.

Wow

How is a quote from one of the inventors of the technology misinformation exactly?

1. He didn't "invent" the technology. Here's an overview in Nature:

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

1. Even if he did, that doesn't automatically make all statements that come out his mouth true. In this case, what he is saying is indeed crap and not backed up by robust evidence.

@wasthataburp

Wow

Wow indeed, it's a depressing state of affairs..

How anyone is supposed to make an informed decision on vaccination with all of this nonsense is beyond me tbh.

@riveted1

How is a quote from one of the inventors of the technology misinformation exactly?

1. He didn't "invent" the technology. Here's an overview in Nature:

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

1. Even if he did, that doesn't automatically make all statements that come out his mouth true. In this case, what he is saying is indeed crap and not backed up by robust evidence.

Point being that there is no long term evidence either way.

Point being that there is no long term evidence either way.

This has be raised and addressed many many times. Very briefly, because I feel you're not really going to read it.

It is not biologically plausible for vaccines to cause long term emerging side effects. In contrast, we know that coronavirus infection does exert long term effects.

Yes

I just heard a litigation lawyer specialising in suing drugs companies explain why the drugs companies what to jab kids. They are lobbying hard and their influence runs deep.
**This is the important bit.
As we know the drugs companies are immune from prosecution whilst the shots are given under the EUA ( emergency use authorisation )
Apparently this immunity extends to any vaccination once it is recommended for children.
This is how how they continue to sell the product safe in the knowledge that any chronic side effects and deaths can not be the basis of any legal claim for damages. 250,000 hospitalised Americans following the shot countless deaths clothing’s and seizures. Terrifying.

What do people think ?
Seems cynical in the extreme.
First time post
Should I include reference? Link?

just heard a litigation lawyer specialising in suing drugs companies explain why the drugs companies what to jab kids. They are lobbying hard and their influence runs deep.
**This is the important bit.
As we know the drugs companies are immune from prosecution whilst the shots are given under the EUA ( emergency use authorisation )
Apparently this immunity extends to any vaccination once it is recommended for children.
This is how how they continue to sell the product safe in the knowledge that any chronic side effects and deaths can not be the basis of any legal claim for damages. 250,000 hospitalised Americans following the shot countless deaths clothing’s and seizures. Terrifying.
What do people think ?
Seems cynical in the extreme.
First time post
Should I include reference? Link?

Almost certainly not. DD is 11, autistic, absolutely phobic of any kind of medication (Calpol scares her just as much as needles do!) and has already had and recovered from COVID with no ill effects.

There are other jabs that I need to somehow persuade her to take over the next couple of years. The COVID one - like the flu nasal spray, which she is also completely phobic of - is not the hill I am willing to die on.

No . He has allergies and has had to have previous vaccines (MMR) in hospital in case of a reaction. Thankfully there was no reaction to them but I'm not taking a chance with this one.
There will be many children with PEG allergies were Pfizer isn't suitable

Yes, no problem with vaccines here.