When they say that 5-11 year olds can have the vaccine.. will your 5-11 year old be having it?

[Dayrider]

They have put this through in USA so guessing it will come soon here.
I would have it for my DD but my husband doesn’t want her to.
What are you going to do?

Yes

My 7 nearly 8 yo will be having it

He’s very healthy but I want to keep him in school as much as possible as he’s behind already

It’s lucky we get to see how it goes in the US in a way first

[quote RandomKettle500] Marynotsocontrary

A real life example of efficacy from a Pfizer COVID trial in kids. 2268 participants. 16 tested positive in the placebo group and 3 tested positive in the vaccinated group. This gave an efficacy of over 90%. In total only 19 out of 2268 children tested positive! It’s tiny tiny numbers on which to base efficacy, but that is how they get their figures.

www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine-shows-907-efficacy-trial-children-2021-10-22/[/quote]
@RandomKettle500
Yes, that's how they get the numbers to start with. Observational studies in the real-world then follow. Though these haven't happened yet for vaccinated/unvaccinated young children with Covid afaik, they most certainly have for the flu (which is what I was responding to upthread, not Covid).

I was objecting to the made-up numbers too. If you say something like 'if 10 (or 1) out of 100,000 children get flu in the placebo group' - as you did - this gives a very false sense of the incidence of childhood flu to those of a non-scientific background.

Yes, when he turns five. Millions of young children have had the vaccine now, it's fine and would stop me worrying.

Yes - to original question

Yes we are desperate to get out 7 yr old done as he has severe and extremely complex medical needs. The last couple of years have been v hard and v stressful to say the least.

100% yes. She's got Covid just now and she is so, so unwell. We don't know if Delta or Omicron but if there's a way to avoid her getting this again I'll do anything.

No.

Absolutely not. Not until there is more evidence of no long term effects in children. Why risk it if they won't get any benefits

Absolutely yes.

Short answer yes.

@BurntO

All those saying no, I am curious, do you also deny them the flu vaccine given in school?

Yes. My kids not had flu vaccine

Once the booster programme is out of the way I think it’s time to make it available to over 5’s for those who want to take it up. It doesn’t need the same push we’ve seen for adults but I’m increasingly thinking that it’s shocking there isn’t a choice in the matter.

Marynotsocontrary
I wasn’t specifically referring to flu. I was trying to explain what efficacy means. In a trial of 100,000 people, it doesn’t matter whether 1, 500, or all people get the disease in the placebo group, if there are no cases in the vaccine group it is still called 100% effective because there would be 100% fewer cases, EVEN IF only one case of flu/covid/tetanus whatever disease the vaccine relates to occurred in the placebo group.

Absolutely not

I'll look at reliable medical guidance at the time (WHO, BMI etc) and then decide. I'm of the 'have the vaccine unless there is an evidence based reason not to' school of thought.

I'm not a medic and as with any other medical decision would rely on those who are experts in the field.

I'm not concerned about dd having Covid but am concerned about her passing it on to others.

No chance if I have to forgo a holiday abroad for a few years so be it. They can get it once we know what side effects it has.

I probably will- although I’d like to see some evidence that it will protect against mutating strains better than existing vaccines - or have better direct benefit for DS.

He has had all of his vaccines and has an annual flu vaccine. I am absolutely not anti-vax. But I’m not thrilled about needing to vaccinate my child against a disease which is highly unlikely to cause him direct harm, in a move that is effectively for the benefit of the adult population, when we still have so many unvaccinated adults unwilling to “risk it” or whatever other bloody nonsense they’re spouting.

I’d rather we mandated compulsory vaccines for all adults able to receive them, before we start vaccinating kids.

No

@Floundery

Absolutely not. Vaccinating children against something that doesn't make them very ill for the benefit of others is a game-changer morally.

We do it as a country with flu every year! We also don't vaccinate against chicken pox routinely on the nhs here as it saves the nhs money on shingles treatments. So morally people are happy to do that, this is really no different.

I will add my child has the flu spray every year and I paid for the chicken pox vaccine privately.

Not a chance. Both of my children have already had covid, they were symptomless unlike me and dh. There’s no way I would ever risk their health with a vaccine that is still in the trial stages to protect someone else, they are my children and no matter how small the risk might be from the vaccine there still is a risk and it’s one we won’t be taking. I also couldn’t care less about being labelled selfish as that word keeps getting thrown around on these threads, I think it’s selfish to make a decision that you can’t take back for your children with not enough long term data.

No way when they barely had a sniffle and never passed it on when they had it . It’s irresponsible to my opinion to vaccinate against something that is unlikely to impact them . Children sent there to protect adults

@Floundery

Absolutely not. Vaccinating children against something that doesn't make them very ill for the benefit of others is a game-changer morally.

This !!