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Anyone not getting a booster?

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LifesTooShortYOLO · 12/12/2021 20:03

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

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Mossstitch · 12/12/2021 21:00

Nhs son says he's not having it as means 100% chance of being ill again (was very ill with both pfizer more so than when he previously had covid) whereas there's a chance he will never catch omicron or if he does will probably be a milder illness. I agree with him.
I'm livid as I have second AZ vaccine booked in for tomorrow, having previously had long covid from illness contracted from a patient in March 2020, as otherwise I'm not allowed to work in the NHS from April. Yet here we are being told it is of no use for the omicron variant but I am still forced to have it, risk fatal clots and be ill for best part of a week as I was with the first all for no gain!! 😤 Where is the logic in that🤦

ivykaty44 · 12/12/2021 21:02

@LunaDeet

I take it you've never travelled to somewhere like India/Africa for example whee you'll need several vaccinations to prevent illness?

why do you restrict vaccinations to two in a year? Is there a theory behind this?

BettyfromBristol · 12/12/2021 21:04

I've had mine, lost two days of freelance work due to a reaction. Still hugely grateful to have had it. I know someone involved in the vaccine development and trust her judgement, she is one of the wisest people I know.

Dimondsareforever · 12/12/2021 21:05

@LostForIdeas

I’m very hesitant because I’m wondering what is the point of getting a booster when we are also told said vaccines are not working for omicron.

If getting a booster, I’d rather have one that actually works for the variant that is predominant iyswim

This is old news. Pfizer for example have said on the last few days a third booster will give you up to 70% protection against the variant.
Ariann · 12/12/2021 21:06

@Mistyplanet

Im not getting it as ive not had any of the covid vaccines so far. Every drug/vaccine has a side effect. I've got a high chance of surviving covid so I prefer to take the natural route and as vaccinated people still become infected with and transmit covid i will not be made to feel like im endangering others. The fact 2 jabs dont work much at all against omricon has confirmed I've done the right thing. I think I had covid at the beginning of the pandemic and I survived it and was still able to function so I'll accept the risks of that than the risks of vaccines especially multiple ones. The vaccines have a nunber of ingredients in which we don't know the effects of. Or things like aborted foetal cells- i dont know if covid vaccine has this but others do.
Yes, in the development of the mRNA Pfizer Covid vax, HEK-293 cell line from the kidneys of an aborted girl fetus from Holland in1973 was used -an immortal cell line. Astra Zeneca and Moderna used the same cell line. The cells are not actually in the injection, but used for the development.
LookNorthbyNorthWest · 12/12/2021 21:06

I think our recent medical successes (esp. antibiotics and vaccinations) have blinded us to a harsh truth - human life is fragile, there are lots of diseases that can easily kill us, and we're in a never-ending war to stop them from doing so.

Up until last century we often lost this battle at an early age. Even in rich, advanced nations a great many children never reached 5 years old because they succumbed to an infection of one kind or another. Several hundred years ago, the black death killed around 1/3 to 1/2 of all people alive in Europe.

Covid isn't new. It's old. This pandemic... this is what life used to be like before medical science rescued us. It's not fearmongering to say viruses pose an existential threat to our way of life. History shows us it's a frightening reality. If we want to get back to the security of life from three years ago (and stay there), we can't do it without medical science.

What we must grasp is that Covid could have been worse and we may well see a worse virus in our lifetimes. The technology that has enabled us to create a vaccination so quickly is not a threat, its a wonder of science, and the vaccinations should not he seen as a burden but as ongoing freedom from a way of living our ancestors were desperate to escape. We will need new vaccines against new diseases, with increasing frequency if ongoing deforestation continues in places like China.

The period from the 1940s to the 2010s was an exceptional period, being one in which agressive viral and bacterial diseases were very unlikely to kill most otherwise healthy people. But it was an exception, not the rule. If we want to keep that exceptional period going, we may need to embrace regular vaccines. It's a small price to pay, really, especially considering all the other things we put up with to maintain our way of living.

Whoknowsweknows · 12/12/2021 21:08

No I’m not getting it. I was so ill after my second, I can’t face it again. Especially with a baby and toddler to care for.

Wellbythebloodyhell · 12/12/2021 21:09

@BackBackBack

Pfizer's research shows that if you had AZ for your first two jabs and then have a Pfizer booster, your protection against Omicron rises to over 70% from around 10%.
I dont understand how this can be proven, surely omicron hasn't been circulating long enough to have a definitive answer on on the effectiveness of the booster in such a short time period
Countrybumpus · 12/12/2021 21:10

I do not want to be jabbed each year forever more so if this variant is found to be less deadly I will be leaving it at two doses. If it comes out as deadly as Delta then it will probably be a 50/50 decision.

Cherrypies · 12/12/2021 21:11

I have been double jabbed with AZ, and yet to get my booster, the reason for that, is two weeks ago, I got the flu jab.
Anyone any idea, if I should leave the booster for a few weeks, for a gap, or ok to get it booked, my gp didn't really have an answer.
I am working from home, have been since March 2020, so have to use public transport, and only mix with the public at the supermarket once a week on a Thursday, late, not that many people there. Also already had covid in October.
Thanks

otterlybonkers · 12/12/2021 21:11

@Valhalla17

How many of these threads are we going to have? Hmm
twelvty.

who cares, people are entitled to ask.

Cherrypies · 12/12/2021 21:11

dont

otterlybonkers · 12/12/2021 21:12

I think our recent medical successes (esp. antibiotics and vaccinations) have blinded us to a harsh truth - human life is fragile, there are lots of diseases that can easily kill us, and we're in a never-ending war to stop them from doing so

many knew this anyway.

Cam77 · 12/12/2021 21:13

I wouldn’t place all my trust in the private company Pfizer or in any of the other pharma companies. Is their vaccine useful to an extent against this virus? Absolutely. Do they have a huge vested interest in no other new vaccines and/or other medical methods/drugs/interventions being implemented to tackle this virus? Absolutely.

AnotherOneWithNoGoodName · 12/12/2021 21:13

Wish I had waited a bit to be honest. I had it in very early October. In hindsight, I wish I had it mid-late November to keep me topped up over winter better. Hope it lasts until the milder weather.

WeeFae · 12/12/2021 21:14

@Cherrypies

I have been double jabbed with AZ, and yet to get my booster, the reason for that, is two weeks ago, I got the flu jab. Anyone any idea, if I should leave the booster for a few weeks, for a gap, or ok to get it booked, my gp didn't really have an answer. I am working from home, have been since March 2020, so have to use public transport, and only mix with the public at the supermarket once a week on a Thursday, late, not that many people there. Also already had covid in October. Thanks
I had my booster and flu jab in the same arm the day before I started chemotherapy.
MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 12/12/2021 21:14

I've just had my booster. A Moderna after 2 az. Anyone know the stats for that combo!

BackBackBack · 12/12/2021 21:14

@Cherrypies

I have been double jabbed with AZ, and yet to get my booster, the reason for that, is two weeks ago, I got the flu jab. Anyone any idea, if I should leave the booster for a few weeks, for a gap, or ok to get it booked, my gp didn't really have an answer. I am working from home, have been since March 2020, so have to use public transport, and only mix with the public at the supermarket once a week on a Thursday, late, not that many people there. Also already had covid in October. Thanks
@Cherrypies I can't remember 100% but when I went for my booster there were definitely questions about whether I'd had a flu jab recently or not. I think the gap is supposed to be 14 days. Will see if I can find anything.
Cam77 · 12/12/2021 21:16

We’re cruising into the middle of winter with a pandemic and a population with one of the highest rates of Vitamin D deficiency in Europe. When we know with 99.99% certainty, and have known for more than a year, that those who are Vitamin D deficient, particularly the elderly, fare considerably worse against this virus than those who not Vitamin D deficient. And yet it seems I’ve missed the huge public health campaign to ensure that everyone over 60 (or in fact ideally everyone) is getting a Big Vitamin D supplement every day. Where is it?

Cheshirewife · 12/12/2021 21:16

@Cam77

I wouldn’t place all my trust in the private company Pfizer or in any of the other pharma companies. Is their vaccine useful to an extent against this virus? Absolutely. Do they have a huge vested interest in no other new vaccines and/or other medical methods/drugs/interventions being implemented to tackle this virus? Absolutely.
I think you’re forgetting the obvious.

The pharma industry is massively competitive. Every major company is heavily incentivised to come up with the next big thing before their competitors (although, in reality, most new drugs/treatments originate from academia rather than drug companies themselves).

Newmama29 · 12/12/2021 21:17

No, I’m still trying to recover from my 2nd vaccine. I chose to get the vaccines, not because I thought that my health was actually threatened by Covid, but so that I could hopefully return to a normal life again. However, the talks of restrictions again & travel restrictions has really put me off. The vaccine isn’t stopping the spread like they said it would so I refuse to jab myself every 3-6 months when the chances of me being very ill or dying from Covid are so slim.

BackBackBack · 12/12/2021 21:17

@Cherrypies NHS says it's safe to have both at once if needed. Guidance might have been updated since I had my booster as research is developing daily.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-booster-vaccine/

ihatefacemasks · 12/12/2021 21:18

I can't get one locally. I try every day. The nearest is 50 miles away and requires a car. That's why I'm not having one.

BackBackBack · 12/12/2021 21:18

@Newmama29

No, I’m still trying to recover from my 2nd vaccine. I chose to get the vaccines, not because I thought that my health was actually threatened by Covid, but so that I could hopefully return to a normal life again. However, the talks of restrictions again & travel restrictions has really put me off. The vaccine isn’t stopping the spread like they said it would so I refuse to jab myself every 3-6 months when the chances of me being very ill or dying from Covid are so slim.
Are you concerned about contracting covid and passing it onto someone else who might have underlying health issues, which mean that they are at a far greater risk of serious illness or death?
Chachasha · 12/12/2021 21:19

I just can't believe how stupid some people are.

They don't like lockdowns.

They don't like services not being available to them because overwhelmed with Covid.

They're going to their Christmas party, dammit.

They don't understand that we're damn lucky a third vaccination restores the protective power of the vaccine and their first two jabs (especially AZ) are close to worthless without it.

They don't care that Omicron moves faster than the power of people to physically get that third jab and it's a question of how much we fall behind as to how much shit we're actually in.

But no, they don't want that either.

And they'll blame Boris (I'm all for blaming Boris usually but this is more stupidity) if people die, services are overwhelmed and their children suffer because schools and extra curricular effects can't be staffed.

People are stupid.