Anyone not getting a booster?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

itsacat

For a start, I would insist on getting that referral.

You referral would be easier to get if everyone got the booster because fewer people would be seriously ill. In some ways it's as simple as that. The NHS doesn't consider what happened to you an acceptable way to carry on and they want to deal with it and move back to dealing with everything else properly, not on a war zone footing.

@Aquarius1234

Is the booster the same size needle?

Yes, it’s exactly the same.

[quote Riverlee]@LookNorthbyNorthWest

Good post.

Polio is a good example of this. I know people of my parents generation who had polio as a child. It wasn’t an uncommon disease. However, vaccination has largely eradicated it.

From Wikipedia - polio reduction worldwide “ -reduced the number of cases reported each year from an estimated 350,000 in 1988 to 33 in 2018.[5][6]”.

That’s 33 known cases Worldwide![/quote]
yes i forgot polio. Back in the early 70's I did clinical practice in an east London Hospital....big immigrant population. I can remember doing paediatric clinics and seeing fairly newly arrived children with a partially paralysed or wasted limb. It was taking an old paediatrician to doagnose the problem as none of the younger ones had ever seem polio. Mary Berry had it as a child and still carrys the remains of the paralysis...and she wasn't from a poor family or a deprived area.

@BackBackBack

Pfizer's research shows that if you had AZ for your first two jabs and then have a Pfizer booster, your protection against Omicron rises to over 70% from around 10%.

Has there been any independent research or is this just what Pfizer are saying? Share prices had gone down before omicron arrived, how convenient...

Most of my family have died / had cancer and I take steps every day to minimise this. Would you prefer i didn’t do that but have the booster?

Why is it a choice? Can’t you keep yourself healthy and get a booster?

I’ll have it - because I accept the limitations of my knowledge on this and defer to the experts.

It’s not some big conspiracy.

@lightand

If this thread is at all representative of the general population , then there have been an amazing amount of people who have some sort of reaction to the vaccines.

Do you think a thread on a forum late at night asking "What are you reasons for not getting the booster?" is likely to give a sample representative of the general population regarding vaccine side effects?

@Valhalla17

How many of these threads are we going to have?

I find it so funny how people come on a thread just to stamp their foot and say stuff like this ⬆️

If you don't want to see these threads then just keep scrolling - problem solved 😊

I know people with type 1 diabetes. They have to inject themselves multiple times a day. Having a couple of vaccines and a booster a few months apart is nothing compared to that.

Not getting as I have just checked and have maximum of antibodies. I feel I do not need booster yet. Did not have covid, at least, symptomatic.

I experienced awful side effects impacting my menstrual cycle following Pfizer vaccinations. Medical experts studied the impact of the covid vaccines on periods following reports of various side effects from tens of thousands of girls and women. The side effects are still unexplained.

Months later, my periods are still affected- I now pass loads of black blood clots. Years ago, I was prescribed tranexamic acid which apparently clots blood but I didn't have any blood clots then.

A further vaccine would definitely cause me unpredictable heavy bleeding, agonising cramps which my prescription painkillers don't touch, and vomiting. I'd much rather have covid.

No. I'm another that had the first two (the ones that Pfizer have dismissed as useless) but not having the booster.

BubblingRiver
Whilst I am sure I agree I am dubious about anyones claims positive or negative on omicron right now... I am sure the dsylexia comment was highly unneccessary.

My DP cant even right a birthday card without a spelling mistake; he has it inherited from his dad who also has similar level of issues with writing. The former I can tell you is highly intelligent and the latter built and ran a multi million £ business for multiple decades in a highly technical field. Dsylexia does not make someone lack intelligence - it just means its probably best you hire a secretary.

@BringBackThinEyebrows fascinating.
Pfizer booster made me feel grim. No period since, although it was due. Hormonal type splitting headaches

I don't dare not get any boosters offered. I have COPD, atrial fibrillation, and diabetes. I'll take any and all boosters offered. We don't even need appointments for them in the US...just walk into a pharmacy or Walmart, stick out your arm, and get a jab. My booster was the easiest of the three. Mildly aching arm for about 36 hours.

@Hodl

Yes, in the development of the mRNA Pfizer Covid vax, HEK-293 cell line from the kidneys of an aborted girl fetus from Holland in1973 was used -an immortal cell line. Astra Zeneca and Moderna used the same cell line. The cells are not actually in the injection, but used for the development

I genuinely didn't know this.

@Hodl

factcheckni.org/articles/covid-19-vaccines-and-aborted-fetuses/

"AstraZeneca did use the HEK 293 cell line to manufacture its vaccine (and Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna in the design of their vaccines). These cells originate from a fetus which was aborted in the Netherlands in 1973. "

@Prescottdanni123

I know people with type 1 diabetes. They have to inject themselves multiple times a day. Having a couple of vaccines and a booster a few months apart is nothing compared to that.

Of course people will choose to inject themselves if they have a medical condition and it will improve their quality of life or save their life.

The covid vaccine is an entirely different situation.

I'm relatively ok after the jabs, but some people it makes really ill, some even die.

So some people will need to weigh up the potential risks vs benefits for them as individuals based on any health conditions they have, previous response to the jabs etc.

I was invited for mine a couple of weeks ago and haven’t had it yet as I was scheduled for an operation and I knew that if I had a fever or any cold like side effects that would have meant that my surgery couldn’t go ahead and tbh I am still recovering at the moment and signed off work so not mixing with people.

I will have the booster when I am fit to though.

@BubblingRiver

Of course I won't be getting my booster, the whole thing is becoming a farce.

Are we expected to believe that pfizer researchers ( no vested interest ) are saying with a straight face that 2 jabs of pfizer aren't enough for the new variant but....... one jab is in the form of a booster for those that have had the Az jab which is next to useless apparently for the new strain. Why would one jab be sufficient working with a completely different vaccine technology when 2 jabs aren't sufficient? As always, it's about money and greed rather than public health as we see from the people implementing these rules and regulations who don't follow them themselves.

This is exactly what I think .

Two AZ jabs and a Moderna booster. Had a horrible time with side effects for all three but worth every ache and pain if it keeps me and people around me safe!

@Chachasha

I just can't believe how stupid some people are.

They don't like lockdowns.

They don't like services not being available to them because overwhelmed with Covid.

They're going to their Christmas party, dammit.

They don't understand that we're damn lucky a third vaccination restores the protective power of the vaccine and their first two jabs (especially AZ) are close to worthless without it.

They don't care that Omicron moves faster than the power of people to physically get that third jab and it's a question of how much we fall behind as to how much shit we're actually in.

But no, they don't want that either.

And they'll blame Boris (I'm all for blaming Boris usually but this is more stupidity) if people die, services are overwhelmed and their children suffer because schools and extra curricular effects can't be staffed.

People are stupid.

People are not stupid. People still have the right to decide. On this thread there are very few- if any, tbh- anti vaxxers sprouting nonsense. I can see posts where people are considering the facts, having had two vaccines already. Others who were poorly after 2nd, so have anxiety over a third. Some can’t even get access to an appointment. Some are waiting until the new year, having only had 2nd vaccine in October. Last time I looked, it was still up to us to decide about our own bodies- if we have the privilege of good health- and our medical status is still a private matter. Enough of this ‘people are stupid’ narrative, who are you to decide that?

@Fashionista1995

Because I’m still recovering from the first 2…

I am too. That's the only reason. I already have a disability and the vaccines have made me feel iller

I've had the booster BTW and I was ok. But my best friend was so ill and still is over a week later. He's on dialysis to survive and on the day after he had the booster he could only do one out of his four hours of dialysis because he was throwing up etc.

He sounded really weird to the extent I had to go over and stay the night as I thought maybe it might be something dangerous. He couldn't fetch himself food so I had to fetch him a slice of ham rolled up, later a slice of cheese rolled up, and eventually a slice of toast. That's all he ate that day.

At times he had paralysis, another bloke at dialysis'd had that too after the jab.

He's had some major joint pains to the extent that he wasn't sure if his wrist was broken. This is still there a week on.

He had the jab just because he thought we might be unable to go for coffee etc otherwise if Boris brings in more regulations. I was really worried it'd backfired badly and he might've ended up dying instead.

He has problems with heart rhythm so was worried because the jab can cause those.

He'd have to really be coerced into having any other one of the boosters etc.