Utterly fed up (covid)

[ExpectingLady93]

I'm totally fed up. I don't doubt for a second everyone else is. It's now been a couple of years, we've had our jabs... just doesn't seem to be putting us back to normal like we were 'promised'?

It still doesn't seem to change the fact that there is now a new variant and they are not 'ruling' out another lockdown, and right before Christmas also. I worry for my friends and family (and everyone else). My parents are getting on a bit and I think it would break my mums heart if they put us into lockdown again before Christmas like last year.....

How is everyone else feeling?

[quote spitneybrears]@DerTrotzkopf I have vulnerable loved ones. What difference does that make to my question?[/quote]
None but it’s the standard response that betrays the underlying lack of thought

Shows the uselessness of masks and vaccine passports

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

rocket surgery is brilliant

The best thing that came out of her mouth to be fair :)

It's not wrong to want to breathe unhindered through one's nostrils, it's what they're there for and until 18 months ago what we always did. It's not like we haven't worn them the year that it was required, in MOST settings.

I've never had a problem breathing through my nostrils with a mask on. If people couldn't do that, we wouldn't be able to move for the bodies littering every public venue and station.

They’re pointless though @Platax

See the stats above

If we aren’t careful, will need rocket surgery to remove them.

Made zero difference to case rates as far as I can see.

Wearing masks is simply ‘being seen to be doing something’ because Boris doesn’t want to be criticised for ‘doing nothing.’ You are basically wearing masks to help Boris look good.

Yep, and it’s free for them. Result

Totally. Half the parents had masks on the playground today. Hardly anyone wore them yesterday, but now they're compulsory in shops, people take it upon themselves to wear outside.

It's mindless. If I were in govt I'd feel very empowered to impose any rule I want, because a sizeable chunk of people would much rather be seen to be virtuous than logical.

People wearing masks outside when there’s no one remotely close enough to them make me roll my eyes. It’s. Outside.

Even worse I’ve seen people wearing them when they’re alone in their car

Well some schools have said that you need a mask if you want to talk to a teacher and they may be popping into a shop. Far more hygienic to keep it on than keep taking it off and putting it back on.

Spot on @WouldBeGood with that graph

@WheelieBinPrincess

People wearing masks outside when there’s no one remotely close enough to them make me roll my eyes. It’s. Outside.

Even worse I’ve seen people wearing them when they’re alone in their car

Your eyes would be spinning if you saw me- I always wear mine outside- besides it keeps my face warm too

@WouldBeGood
Jim Naismith who is a professor of structural biology at Oxford said in the Telegraph yesterday ""The Office for National Statistics survey results on prevalence shows that the Scottish and English approach to masking, although formally different since July, has made no meaningful difference to delta... "In both countries, very high levels of prevalence have continued for months. Thus the new changes announced are unlikely to have much of an impact if omicron does indeed spread rapidly."

Nice to see it finally acknowledged by a scientist.

The article also said (and I haven't verified this or seen mention of it elsewhere):
"Last week, the only randomised controlled trial looking at the impact of mask-wearing found it to have had a very limited impact on Bangladeshi communities, despite initial claims it showed a large effect.

In September, the study – involving 350,000 people across rural Bangladesh – found that masks reduced symptomatic Covid cases in villages by nine per cent. But a recent reappraisal found the difference between the intervention and control villages was just 20 cases out of more than 2,000 infections over eight weeks."

So I think the evidence for mask mandates is still unconvincing.

Good to see it said @Chessie678, thanks

It’s alarming how easy it is to get people to comply with meaningless, ineffective rules. And how they abuse those people who refuse to believe the frankly unbelievable.

In future it will be acknowledged that the government bent arguments to get compliance and some people are going to look like absolute fools.

They've just cancelled our nursery concert because the college who were due to lend us their hall have decided not to due to COVID. It's so disappointing and confusing.

@WheelieBinPrincess

People wearing masks outside when there’s no one remotely close enough to them make me roll my eyes. It’s. Outside.

Even worse I’ve seen people wearing them when they’re alone in their car

I wore a mask outside this evening while not near people. I was walking from some shops, where face coverings are mandatory, to catch a bus, where face coverings are also mandatory. I didn't want to faff with taking it off and putting it in the zip lock bag I keep my masks in only to have to put it on again. Plus as a PP says it kept my face warm. Feel free to roll your eyes at me, I really don't care.

WheelieBinPrincess
People wearing masks outside when there’s no one remotely close enough to them make me roll my eyes. It’s. Outside.

If you're going in and out of shops or walking between other places then it makes more sense to keep it on

Even worse I’ve seen people wearing them when they’re alone in their car

They might be visiting different places in a short space of time, as part of their job for example

It's sometimes better to keep a mask on, rather than keep taking it on and off

They might.

Or they might just be hysterical

Malteser71
They might.
Or they might just be hysterical

And does that bother you? That someone passing by in a car has a mask on. Who's the hysterical one?

@Malteser71

It’s alarming how easy it is to get people to comply with meaningless, ineffective rules. And how they abuse those people who refuse to believe the frankly unbelievable.

In future it will be acknowledged that the government bent arguments to get compliance and some people are going to look like absolute fools.

You mean all governments, everywhere? As fairly much everywhere is grappling with Omicron in their own way, and reintroducing masks and travel bans - so England is hardly unique. Trying to push the 'masks are ineffective' argument is getting very, very old. I know who is going to look foolish.

Please just quit with the misogynist term hysterical.
God knows why wearing a mask stirs up this kind of stuff.
The other day it was hysterical mask wearing enthusiasts.

@WorryMcGee

Yep, I’m panicking about all of it. I’m pregnant with severe tokophobia and if my husband isn’t allowed to be there with me at all appointments and the birth because of stupid fucking restrictions I don’t know what I’ll do. They’ll have to pin me down, give me a GA and remove the baby that way. I’ll probably get attacked on here for getting pregnant in the first place, but I’m so anxious about restrictions I’m past caring.

I was pregnant during the second full blown lockdown, hospitals removed all restrictions on partners because it was deemed to cause too much stress to pregnant mothers. My husband was able to attend every scan, every blood test, every midwife appointment etc. Try not to worry. They won't stop partners attending again.

People who really can't wear masks should buy an exemption lanyard and flash that at any judgmental types.

@hangrylady

I'll be seeing my family this year lockdown or not. I'm double vaccinated, so are they plus booster. I've followed the rules so far but not this time if there's another lockdown.

Well said. Me neither.