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Are you really prepared to take every single vaccine

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Talsaml · 28/11/2021 12:43

It worries me that we may have to keep having vaccines going forward. I’m due my booster which I will take but I’m hearing that AZ are in the process of tweaking the current vaccine to combat the new strain. So we are then required to take another booster. Many variants can crop up, suppose another one does very soon. I’m concerned about the number of vaccines we could be taking. Is anyone else? And no I’m not an anti vaxer.

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Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:11

A thought experiment for anyone saying "of course I'd take as many as I'm offered" etc:

How frequently could boosters be recommended before you would start to feel uncomfortable? If it were advised by the JCVI. Once every 3 months? 2 months? More frequently than that?

ollyollyoxenfree · 29/11/2021 23:15

@Battenburg77

A thought experiment for anyone saying "of course I'd take as many as I'm offered" etc:

How frequently could boosters be recommended before you would start to feel uncomfortable? If it were advised by the JCVI. Once every 3 months? 2 months? More frequently than that?

As long as the schedule was evidence based I wouldn't have an issue
Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:17

@Battenburg77

A thought experiment for anyone saying "of course I'd take as many as I'm offered" etc:

How frequently could boosters be recommended before you would start to feel uncomfortable? If it were advised by the JCVI. Once every 3 months? 2 months? More frequently than that?

Why a 'thought experiment?' Why would it be uncomfortable to have them as regularly as they suggest is beneficial?

I agree with a PP, it'll probably be a combined jab in time.

flowerbomb21 · 29/11/2021 23:17

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/11/2021 23:19

now they have said 3 months between the second vaccine and the booster it would be 3 covid vaccines in 5 months. To be honest that does concern me if it continues going forward

Wasn't it said that the CEV were to have 3 doses as standard, then the booster as well?
If so that's 4, plus possibly a 5th if there's a tweak annd it's recommended they have that as well

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:19

All very dramatic that @flowerbomb21 have a Wine and maybe a tinfoil hat.

Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:21

"A thought experiment is a hypothetical situation in which a hypothesis, theory, or principle is laid out for the purpose of thinking through its consequences."

So fortnightly jabs would fine with you, if advised? When people insist that they'd have as many as recommended, I'm curious to know where they would draw the line.

Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:22

*@Sparklingbrook

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:22

@Puzzledandpissedoff

now they have said 3 months between the second vaccine and the booster it would be 3 covid vaccines in 5 months. To be honest that does concern me if it continues going forward

Wasn't it said that the CEV were to have 3 doses as standard, then the booster as well?
If so that's 4, plus possibly a 5th if there's a tweak annd it's recommended they have that as well

My relative is CEV and has had 3 vaccines, and presumably will get a booster when the time is right. This is on the advice of their consultant, who they will continue to discuss this with as time goes on.
Mamanyt · 29/11/2021 23:23

Absolutely not. Knowing a good bit about how viruses work and mutate, I'd have been very surprised if we were not struggling to play catch-up with this one, given the amount of resistance to other means of control that we have seen world wide. I take flu and pneumonia vaccines every year, why not this one, or more often, as things change?

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:25

@Battenburg77

"A thought experiment is a hypothetical situation in which a hypothesis, theory, or principle is laid out for the purpose of thinking through its consequences."

So fortnightly jabs would fine with you, if advised? When people insist that they'd have as many as recommended, I'm curious to know where they would draw the line.

Oh hypothetical questions? Not worth discussing in with regard to this pandemic.
fournonblondes · 29/11/2021 23:27

Well for now is every three months or they approved that you can have it three months after the second dose if eligible.

fournonblondes · 29/11/2021 23:29

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ollyollyoxenfree · 29/11/2021 23:31

@Battenburg77

"A thought experiment is a hypothetical situation in which a hypothesis, theory, or principle is laid out for the purpose of thinking through its consequences."

So fortnightly jabs would fine with you, if advised? When people insist that they'd have as many as recommended, I'm curious to know where they would draw the line.

For the sake of the thought experiment

If there was replicated, good quality, evidence about the safety and necessity of having fortnightly vaccinations, and we were somehow in a situation where this didn't impact other services, or other countries accessing their own fortnightly vaccinations AND there was still options for people to decline then yes I'd be fine with it.

However this obviously isn't and won't be the case.

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Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:33

@Sparklingbrook

I disagree. At the moment, people seem prepared to accept almost anything without scrutiny, in the name of covid. That's a problem. People should ask themselves what the limits are to the interventions/restrictions/sacrifices/risks that they would accept.

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:37

[quote Battenburg77]@Sparklingbrook

I disagree. At the moment, people seem prepared to accept almost anything without scrutiny, in the name of covid. That's a problem. People should ask themselves what the limits are to the interventions/restrictions/sacrifices/risks that they would accept.[/quote]
I disagree. If you are going to ask hypothetical questions about all the what ifs regarding this virus you'll be there a very long time.
Loads of people on MN seem unprepared to accept anything, look at all the bunfights about mask wearing over the last 24 hours. All the posters declaring they'll do what they like over Christmas regardless of what Boris says.

AnnieSnap · 29/11/2021 23:37

@ilovemygirls

My stroke was recent - as a direct result as the jab. This has now been proven. You’re very welcome to see my notes. And yes, I broke up with my ex over 10 years ago now. Do you think the stress from a controlling relationship just disappears overnight? It doesn’t. Q Quite prepared to show you my medical records… and doctors reports… I can even put you in touch with two 19 year olds who were in hospital at the same time as me after suffering strokes. Or the fit, healthy teacher who will never walk again. I find this site very weird and very unsupportive… and judgemental. Just ask me, rather constantly attack because I don’t agree with you. Why would you come on here & feel the need to attack others all the time? How bizarre. But you continue to take your 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th jab… let your children have it too. I give up trying to educate people! Come back to me in 20 years & tell me you still feel you’ve made the right decision then. Every child has been exposed to this “virus” already. They are absolutely fine. You really think the richest, most powerful people in the world care if you or your child lives or dies?! They really don’t give a damn - you’re just a number. So no - I won’t be taking any more Covid jabs. This is about much more than just one virus… there are BILLIONS of viruses. You really think the whole world is being controlled because of ONE virus?! Common sense really is a thing of the past here on mumsnet. The place where all the perfect mummy’s go to brag & talk about whether they are being unreasonable for being oh so annoyed because a car is parked near their driveway! Dear god!
If you had already had two strokes, you have my sympathy, but you can’t say the third was caused by the vaccine, you were already vulnerable to having another.
LemonSwan · 29/11/2021 23:41

If the frequency is a vaccine a year. Then fine, boosters every few months? I'm not sure about that.

I am with this PP.

Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:43

@Sparklingbrook

A bit off topic from vaccines, but we absolutely must ask "what ifs" about the pandemic response and policy that's being put in place right now and in the future. There are associated harms and costs with a lot of the measures and restrictions that have been enacted - very real harms - and going into the third year of the pandemic, we do have a responsibility to assess the proportionality of the measures which affect real people's lives.

HelpNeedCoolUsername8 · 29/11/2021 23:44

Yes I will have my booster and probably further boosters. This doesn’t mean I haven’t researched and considered the risks. It means I’ve done that and decided to trust the conclusions of scientists and recommendations of medical professionals over anonymous strangers commenting on MN.

I also pay to have the flu vaccine most years because I’ve had flu in the past and have no desire to repeat the experience. I also have dependents who rely on me and am at fairly high risk of encountering flu due to my job.

Battenburg77 · 29/11/2021 23:45

*I'm not referring to masks - although the masking of young kids in the states is definitely a policy that deserves questioning.

Kate0902900908 · 29/11/2021 23:48

Ive developed Guillain-Barré (pronounced ghee-yan bar-ray) syndrome since having my second vaccine. Currently my life is at a stand still. I've been waiting 5 months to see a neurologist on the NHS and still have no idea when it will be. On Saturday I will travel to London and spend £££ of my families money having private tests to find out for sure what is wrong with me. I will not be taking anymore vaccines of any kind. I know it is extremely rare but it can happen and when it does there is no help. I've literally seen 3 A&E doctors after waiting a minimum of 7 hours.

Sparklingbrook · 29/11/2021 23:48

[quote Battenburg77]@Sparklingbrook

A bit off topic from vaccines, but we absolutely must ask "what ifs" about the pandemic response and policy that's being put in place right now and in the future. There are associated harms and costs with a lot of the measures and restrictions that have been enacted - very real harms - and going into the third year of the pandemic, we do have a responsibility to assess the proportionality of the measures which affect real people's lives.[/quote]
But nobody knows what the what ifs even are. Nobody has a crystal ball. 'Fortnightly jabs' plucked out of thin air. So many variables, this new variant has appeared out of nowhere over the last week or so.
You can't continually ask yourself hypothetical questions about things that you don't even know will happen, but you can assess them as they come up IMO.

Miisty · 29/11/2021 23:56

My daughter’s mother in law had the booster first 2Oxford this one beginning with P felt unwell within 24hrs in hospital after passing out on kitchen floor ?had stroke so goodness knows what they will recommend now in early 60s

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