AIBU That we learn to accept COVID is here to stay!

[Jakie7700]

That now a massive number is double vaccinated those who want to be and that teenagers have started to be offered them, it seems so ridiculous that kids are still losing out on school because they are being sent home as they have a minor cold with minor cough. Covid will still be around in years to come, so will children still be sent home then with a mild cough due to colds?

Many missed days of school waiting for PCR results, parents usually mothers missing work over and over. Nobody seemed to care two years back when these same children were spreading flu, chicken pox etc which can all kill or cause serious complications both in adults and children.

Nothing is going to change you can get COVID again like a cold. Just last week I heard of two friends kids being sent home because of mild cough (coughed three/four times the whole day) missed days of school waiting for results only to be negative and then told this will happen every time they have a cough which as most will know in primary children will be alot over winter! These same parents who have nearly lost jobs due to having to juggle childcare through lockdowns. Surely it is just time to accept COVID is isn't going anywhere and stop making kids espeically suffer.

[quote Jakie7700]@catgirl1976
And ask yourself this if everyone thought like you and has regular PCR tests for any headache, runny nose,sneezing and sore throat over the winter. When it is not recommended to do so by the government will you feel responsible if waiting time for test results take much longer because of the sheer amount of people taking tests over the winter and they lost their jobs because they keep taking more time off work from their min wage job and get sacked. A few extra days off work for you unpaid may be fine, but for others it's the difference between keeping or losing their jobs. I take it you don't live in the real world.

Yes the system is flawed and yes people should be able to test for any symptom via a PCR but let's be honest the system can't function quickly if everyone does that hence the government having to make a choice and stick to the three main symptoms.[/quote]
FFS

I'll type this slowly for you...

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@CallmeHendricks
Not trying to take any moral high ground. I am simply asking people are they giving false info when booking a test. Quite a simply yes or no would be sufficient.
And tbh if I tested my children even single time they had a headache, runny nose, sore throat, sniffles or sneezing. They would have days off school each month waiting for a test I have given false info to gain.

Here is a question for all those who do this without being asked too. So do you not think thousands doing this is going to have a impact on results times and not being able to get a appointment at your local drive through site? And that is fair on the kids which have the been sent home from schoom or the ones that have been asked to get a PCR or the parents that again have to wait another day or so off work is that fair by what you are doing?

Anyone can book a PCR test. You just tick the symptoms box. Nobody checks what the symptoms are.

The testing system is pretty efficient now in terms of results turnaround time.

@SpookyPumpkinPants
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[quote Jakie7700]@DoubleShotEspresso
I do stop to think, do you? If you are all so angry at people not doing a PCR for a headache, runny nose etc as they would have to lie to get a PCR test as these are not listed and it will say you are not eligible for a PCR.

Why are you all not more angry at the government who are the ones that won't add more symptoms onto the list to be eligible for a PCR. Why aren't you getting off your arses and contacting your MP or doing something about It?[/quote]
Jesus wept.

Why do you make even more stupid assumptions?

I'd like to know whose paying you to post

Here is a question for all those who do this without being asked too
If you have symptoms which include, but are not limited to, a cough... you are meant to get a PCR. No ones going to ask you to; we've been told this since the start.

@SpookyPumpkinPants
Please do not call me stupid just because I have an opinion that differs from you. I am not stating anything that is not true. If you want to get PCR test for a headache please feel free that is your choice. As it is mine not to get one for this.

[quote Jakie7700]@CallmeHendricks
Not trying to take any moral high ground. I am simply asking people are they giving false info when booking a test. Quite a simply yes or no would be sufficient.
And tbh if I tested my children even single time they had a headache, runny nose, sore throat, sniffles or sneezing. They would have days off school each month waiting for a test I have given false info to gain.

Here is a question for all those who do this without being asked too. So do you not think thousands doing this is going to have a impact on results times and not being able to get a appointment at your local drive through site? And that is fair on the kids which have the been sent home from schoom or the ones that have been asked to get a PCR or the parents that again have to wait another day or so off work is that fair by what you are doing?[/quote]
You are not acknowledging that the majority we've sent with those symptoms have been positive.

I think that yes we should learn it’s not going anywhere but no I don’t agree we should be living like we used to Pre COVID.
To live along side this virus atm and for the foreseeable we’re all going to have to change our ways.

Why are children being forced to stay off until PCR results which for some areas can take days to get back over a mild cold

Because we can’t tell the difference? Because schools need staff to run and if they are constantly out because they have been infected they can’t run?

[quote Jakie7700]@SpookyPumpkinPants
Please do not call me stupid just because I have an opinion that differs from you. I am not stating anything that is not true. If you want to get PCR test for a headache please feel free that is your choice. As it is mine not to get one for this.[/quote]
I wouldn’t do a PCR for a headache

If anything feels off but not main symptoms maybe an LFT, but not sure

[quote Jakie7700]@SpookyPumpkinPants
Please do not call me stupid just because I have an opinion that differs from you. I am not stating anything that is not true. If you want to get PCR test for a headache please feel free that is your choice. As it is mine not to get one for this.[/quote]
But your OP was saying that children shouldn’t be asked to get a PCR for a cough over winter?

For someone that seems so fixated on the ‘rules’ for getting PCR then getting a PCR for a cough IS the rules.

Because when it rips through schools more and more students catch it requiring longer periods of isolation and taking it home potentially. More and more staff catch it and you can’t open the school when you have no staff. We know school age children currently have the highest rates. By allowing it to continually spread you will lose in total more school days than you would by for example increasing testing, mask wearing and improving ventilation.

As many have said learning to live with covid is NOT the same as pretending it’s not happening.

[quote Jakie7700]@SpookyPumpkinPants
Please do educate me pumpkin[/quote]
It's a shame you've got to your age without any education. I can see why you're troubled by your child missing school.

@SpookyPumpkinPants
Those claws are sharp pumpkins you might want to give them a good file 😂

The public are so God damn selfish for not wanting to be constantly punished and isolated.

Yes sure. Mask wearing indoors is ‘constant punishment.’

[quote Jakie7700]@SpookyPumpkinPants
Please do not call me stupid just because I have an opinion that differs from you. I am not stating anything that is not true. If you want to get PCR test for a headache please feel free that is your choice. As it is mine not to get one for this.[/quote]
I didn't call you stupid

Your opinion not only differs from mine, it differs from the majority because you're posting incorrect information & making ridiculous assumptions.

@MrsHerculePoirot
Yes when people have no choice to send children in as they can't keep taking time off work I don't think it's realistic again another winter to expect people on the poverty line to keep doing this.

@SpookyPumpkinPants
If that's what you believe that is fine by me. And yes you did imply I was stupid

[quote Jakie7700]@MrsHerculePoirot
Yes when people have no choice to send children in as they can't keep taking time off work I don't think it's realistic again another winter to expect people on the poverty line to keep doing this.[/quote]
Then tell your MP, write letters, DO something other than start goady threads.

@Assssssssssss

I agree this is not fair on the kids or parents of kids. Missed so much education

Of course it's not bloody fair!! It's a fucking pandemic! It's completely shit. For everyone.

@SpookyPumpkinPants
I already have, due to my work I work closely with my local MP.
It's all well for those people who have the luxury of making a morally correct choice but I do not feel it is being goady to point out not everyone does have that choice of keeping their child at home every time they are mildly unwell.

Yes in a ideal world they would but let's be honest most employers aren't intrested just want you at work. Until that changes or primary school children are vaccinated people whether you like it or not send them kids in unwell. They do already with other viruses

The argument seems to have moved from children missing school to parents being forced to send their children in unwell.

@Strictly1
Yes it is about children missing school. Then a few hijacked it by saying people who do not get a PCR for a headache or runny nose are morally wrong. Then when I pointed out alot of people who are living on the breadline can't afford to have morals if it means they may lose their jobs.

In the real world most people whether right or wrong would rather send their child in than lose their job/homes and not be able to provide the basics for them. It is a fact that I have seen unfortunately.

I agree with OP. It all seems a bit futile now. I for one am not prepared to lateral flow my kid every day which is in fact the only way you will pick up covid cases. it is very easy for PCRs to come back negative if they are done on day 1 -3 following a close contact.